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BIO: 19
GCHEM: 21
OCHEM: 22
PAT: 21
Reading: 22
QR: 21
AA: 21 TS:21

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this forum for their help and tips. Definitely couldn't have done it without you guys. If anything, your posting of 21+ scores scared me into studying hard lol.

I took a Kaplan online course and used their online tests as my practice tests. I had never gotten higher than 17 on Science on any of the Kaplan tests (I think they are supposed to be fairly easy). I don't know what magically happened on Test Day, but somehow I pulled it off. I didn't do a single full-length test for the 3 weeks leading up to the test (idk why lol) so maybe something clicked for me in that time?

Bio: Cliff's, Kaplan, DAT Destroyer. Bio is my weakest subject, as you can see. Everything was pretty straightforward on the test but like other people have said, it was really random. There were a couple that I just had no idea about. When I read the first question, I was completely clueless and had to mark it. Thought to myself, "Well this isn't going to go well." I read through Cliff's once and Kaplan bio once. Then randomly in the weeks before Test Day I would just open up a random chapter and read it. I only went about halfway through DAT Destroyer Bio because honestly it was kicking my butt and I was getting really frustrated. I think it is overkill and the only helpful quality of it is that it gives you reality check on how much material there is to know. I don't remember much about Bio now, probably because I was so freaked out while taking it lol. I do remember I had several ecology and evolution questions and only one basic taxonomy question. I would say to expose yourself to as much material as possible and favor "breadth over depth" if you are short on study time.

GChem: Chad's and DAT Destroyer were enough for this section. I watched Chad's twice over the course of a few months. The first time through I took super detailed notes, but the second time I was sat back and watched and tried to pick up on things that I hadn't seen before. Again, Destroyer is a little much here. The math on this section of the test wasn't that bad at all, pretty straight forward. A lot of them were the "setup" type problems where you just pick the answer that has the right calculation setup. I probably made some stupid mistakes here. :oops:

OChem: Chad's and DAT Destroyer. Watched Chad's 2X. I didn't finish Destroyer for this either :p. I'm also retaking Organic I right now in the summer so I think that really helped out a lot. The test was definitely heavier on Organic I material, so pretty basic reactions. There were I think 3 or 4 EAS reactions as well. I used to hate organic chem but now I think I understand it (well, at least on a DAT level) and actually kind of like it. I finished the Sciences with about 10 minutes left and used that time to go over my marked problems.

PAT: Crack DAT PAT. Once you know how to approach each type of problem and have developed a strategy for solving it, CDP is all you really need. Kaplan PAT is too easy, don't use it. For example, I had been able to use line counting for TFE on Kaplan, but on the actual test most of the answer choices have the same number of lines and so I had to actually picture the shape in 3D. The difficulty level is about the same as CDP, which surprised me because I thought CDP was supposed to be harder. I had been getting 20-22 on CDP. I will say that angles on my actual test are FREAKING HARD. I wouldn't be surprise if everything I missed came from the angle section. They definitely don't care about lining up the angles for you at the same size and rotation. And even when they did, I still couldn't tell them apart. I just went with my "gut" on most of them. There were also a few (2 or 3) keyholes that were quite outrageous and I had to mark them and basically use an educated guess. Everything else was straightforward. Hole punching and Cubes were a little easier than CDP, I thought. I only had a max of 16 cubes to count, not bad at all. I finished with about 90 seconds left.

Reading: I did not prepare for this section at all. I had been getting 21 on the Kaplan practice tests and I wasn't sure how else to prepare for it. I actually spent 5 minutes of my break time deciding whether I was going to read the whole thing through or just go straight to the questions. I am not a good reader so I used the search and destroy method, which worked out for me. I hardly got any tone questions at all. Oh yeah, I got the ETHICS passage. I actually thought I got every question right on this whole section and I finished with 20 minutes left (wtf right?). SO maybe the Ethics passage tricked me or something, but I thought it was fairly easy, not nearly as hard as other people have said. Maybe I got a different Ethics passage?

QR: Math Destroyer. I am pretty good at math, or so I thought (5 on AP Calc BC, that is my claim to fame lol). I went through all of the Math Destroyer because it helped me gain some of my confidence back haha. Some people have said to go through it twice, with and without timing. I was pretty confident so I just put 45 minutes on my timer and dove straight in. The first few practice tests I only got through about 30-33 questions and getting a lot wrong. So I looked over the answers carefully, found out the "quicker" ways of doing those problems and brushed up on my equations and formulas. After Test 4 or so, I was able to finish an entire test basically right on time with getting only a few questions wrong. To be honest I was aiming to get everything right on this section, but that didn't work out I guess, LOL. I think my mistake was that I got caught up on one problem and I didn't want to give up so I wasted like 4 minutes on it. Then I had to rush through everything else half-assed. Poop. I finished the section with about 1 minute left.

Even though I think 21 AA is quite good, I don't think it will be enough to get me in during this cycle. I have 3.0 scGPA and 3.3 cumGPA with lots of volunteering. Still, I am applying to all the Texas schools (resident) and a few of the OOS friendly ones around the country to test the waters.

Thanks for reading and good luck to you all! :luck:

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Nice scores! :thumbup:

I'm having a hard time on Bio as well, and am taking the test this Friday... I'm hoping for scores as good as yours haha
 
Did you have enough time on the science section or were you rushed in the end or wished you had an extra 10 minutes?
 
Did you have enough time on the science section or were you rushed in the end or wished you had an extra 10 minutes?

I think I finished with about 10 minutes left. It gave me enough time to go back to my marked questions and really think about them. I also went back to check some of the calculation stuff on GChem. For Bio though, I tried to go with my gut instinct on the ones I wasn't sure about and I tried not to change my first answer too much.
 
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I think I finished with about 10 minutes left. It gave me enough time to go back to my marked questions and really think about them. I also went back to check some of the calculation stuff on GChem. For Bio though, I tried to go with my gut instinct on the ones I wasn't sure about and I tried not to change my first answer too much.


How similar are Chads quizzes to the actual DAT questions in GC and Orgo?
 
I would say they are pretty similar in both wording and difficulty. It's definitely worth it to watch all of Chad's videos and to do all the quizzes.

whale, are the OC quizzes better time spent than using the Destroyer? I havent got those and would like to know if i Should shell out the $20 bucks for them. Plz let me know.
 
whale, are the OC quizzes better time spent than using the Destroyer? I havent got those and would like to know if i Should shell out the $20 bucks for them. Plz let me know.

I bought the $50 3-month GC and OC package from Chad which came with the quizzes, so to me that was very worth it. I'm not sure about just buying the quizzes though, because it's only 85 questions, compared to Destroyer which has lots more. If you already have Destroyer, I don't think you should buy only the questions by themselves. But if you can afford it, shell out a few extra $$$ to get the videos AND the quizzes. Hope this helps.
 
good job!! do u think bio questions was more of regurgitating material or more like applying concepts?
 
good job!! do u think bio questions was more of regurgitating material or more like applying concepts?

Thanks! I would say it's more regurgitating material. But there are a few questions where they give you a "real-world" example and you have to apply the concepts. For example they could give you the "results" of some experiments and say that they found an organelle with such and such features (maybe using a roundabout way of saying it). Identify the organelle. Something like that, where they don't specifically come out and say, "What organelle has this feature?"
 
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