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Wow so I can't believe I'm all done with the DAT. Although I have been reading a lot on this forum, I don't post very much. Anyway, I thought I'd share my scores from today:

Bio 26
GC 28
Orgo 29
PAT 24
RC 23
QR 27
TS 28
AA 27 🙂
(you can see the percentiles in the attached image)

I'll really did not think I was going to score this high for two reasons: 1) My practice test scores (achiever, topscore) were much lower and 2) other than spring break (2 weeks) + 4 weekends in the spring semester + 2.5 weeks after finals, I did not spend any additional time studying.

I would like to thank everyone on these forums for posting DAT-related questions and answers.

Reading all about how other people have studied for months on end on this forum, I was quite intimidated going into the test. I would just like to let everyone know who is preparing to take the DAT in the near future that IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO WELL ON THIS TEST WITHOUT STUDYING FOR MONTHS ON END. If you studied hard in your basic science courses, you should be well prepared for success. Classes are quite difficult and time consuming at my school, thus I had very little time to devote to DAT preparation.

With that said, here is a brief breakdown of each of the sections:

Bio (datQvault, destroyer, Wolfe videos, Barrons AP bio, Examkrackers, Audio Osmosis, Kaplan 2008 book from amazon): Although I am a molecular biology major, this has always been the toughest section for me because 1) I did not take AP bio in high school and 2) my intro bio courses did not cover the same material as the DAT (nor did my intro bio professors stress memorization of facts). Out of all my study materials, datQvault, the Wolfe videos, and Barrons AP bio book were key. The examkrackers bio book and the audio osmosis were very helpful with anatomy and physiology type questions. I listened to the bio CDs of the audio osmosis over and over (every night as I fell asleep for maybe 2 months and sometimes when I worked in the lab). I did all datQvault 10 tests and reviewed them once more the day before my exam. This is a great resource and I highly recommend it. The Wolfe videos were great for reproductive-related topics as well as immunology. The Barrons book was great for all around review. The questions on the actual test were quite random and I probably marked 10 questions as I was going through the first time.

GC (destroyer): I took chemistry and AP chemistry in high school and general chemistry in college, so I did not review much for this section. I went through destroyer once and that was it. Destroyer was great review, but I felt it went into unnecessary detail at times. I did not have any pH or log calculations on this section, although I was prepared to do them thanks to destroyer. The actual test wasn't too bad and many of the calculation type questions were written out instead of condensed as a final value.

Orgo (destroyer, ACS organic): Orgo as a subject has always been oddly kind of fun for me, so I enjoyed this section. The ACS organic review book was very helpful and I highly recommend it. I did destroyer once through as practice. The actual test wasn't bad at all.

PAT (crack DAT PAT, Barrons DAT): WARNING--maybe I was just nervous, but I though the actual test was harder than crack DAT PAT. I had scored around 22 and 23 on the last few crack DAT PAT tests I did, but I did not have a confident feeling when I finished the actual PAT. Also, although achiever is very very difficult, I really feel that my success on this section is due to the tough problems I was seeing on achiever tests. Achiever really helped me to improve my PAT abilities. Practice really is key for this section.

RC (nothing other than achiever and topscore): I really enjoyed the passages I had and although this section requires a lot of concentration, it isn't too bad if you've actually been reading all of those assigned textbook and primary literature readings assigned for classes 🙂. I once heard that if you tell yourself you are genuinely interested the passages you're assigned, you'll remember more.

QR (destroyer, math destroyer [2 tests], Khan academy): I would have liked to review more for this section, but I ran out of studying time. Out of the time I did devote to studying QR, the Khan academy videos were very helpful in explaining combinations, permutations, and the probability associated with them. I was making good time up until I hit a couple of hard questions around #20 on the real exam. I burned up some time on these, but I ended up guessing on them knowing that this would allow me to have a look at possibly easier questions in the second half of the section. Timing is the biggest issue for this section, so if you get to a tough question that you don't know how to solve, just guess and come back if you have time. Also (about the windows calculator), you are not allowed to use the keyboard keys and there was a very very slight lag when entering repeated numbers. It is definitely better than the achiever calculator (which didn't allow me to input decimal points on some of the numbers and also had major lag).



Thanks everyone and I'm off to go get some drinks with my gf 😀
 

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almost as good as my scores...🙄 haha I wish.

Congrats and enjoy dental school!👍
 
Double U - Oh- Double U!!!!

Could you post your topscore and Achiever scores if you get a chance? Thanks!
 
Congrats dude, those are some wicked scores.

Please don't apply to northeast schools haha :laugh:
 
Congrats on the great score!! How exactly did you spend your time studying? (Hours per day, study schedule, topic by topic vs. all at once, etc.)
 
Great scores!!!

What is the ACS Ochem book you used? I can't find it online!

I actually had this book from when I took orgo II (half of our orgo II final exam was the ACS orgo test). At the time, the ACS club at my school was selling them for around $20. I think the club purchased the books directly from ACS. You should be able to purchase the book from here: http://www.examsinstitute.com/Study-Guides_c_1.html
 
Jeez, I would be crapping my pants if I have to apply this cycle. :laugh:

I think the combination of the all the training that the high scorers do, with the availability of DAT specific software has a lot to do with the uber scores.

This is off wikipedia, so I'm 100% it's wrong, but .. in 2003, a 25AA is 100 percentile, which means no one scored higher than 25AA.

But this year, we've seen evanyou scoring a 26AA, and it's 'only' 99.9 percentile, which means there are 27's in the pool.

When I scored my 23AA (98.1 percentile), few people chimed in and said that their 23 was a 99.6 percentile earlier, and a 22 was 98.9 percentile.

We are getting greater amounts of uber scores these days.

The average DAT will stay the same, but the ceiling has been put that much higher from all the training (Dentalwork's 8 week program) and the countless practice that is available (topscore, achiever, crack dat, dat destroyer etc.)
 
Congrats on the great score!! How exactly did you spend your time studying? (Hours per day, study schedule, topic by topic vs. all at once, etc.)

At the beginning of spring break I took a practice test and my bio was really weak (i think i got a 17 on the bio section from the kaplan DAT book), so I studied bio for 1.5 weeks of spring break. I probably studied for around 10 hrs (not continuously) on those days.

Once I was done with finals this spring, I pretty much did a practice test every day, reviewed the entire test, and then studied extra material. Reviewing each practice test took quite a bit of time (probably around 3 to 4 hours per test). For the extra material that I studied on these days, I tended to study whatever section was lowest on the practice test that I had just completed.

In general, I studied topic by topic. However if there was something random that came to mind, I would definitely go look it up (maybe I would think of the name of some random orgo reaction while studying bio and I would take time out of bio studying to make sure I understood that rxn)
 
I really envy your scores! great job! u should go out and celebrate:soexcited:! btw, can u share ur topscore results?
 
Thanks so much everyone! I'm not on my own computer right now, so i will post my topscore and achiever scores as soon as i have the chance.

I also purchased the 2009 sample test from the ADA and I would say that the difficulty and types of questions on this test were most representative of my actual DAT. Again, I thought the PAT from my actual test was harder than the PAT from the 2009 sample test but this could be attributed to nervousness. If I remember correctly, I think I got: Bio 33/40, GC 28/30, orgo 25/30, PAT 87/90, somewhere around 38/50 or 40/50 for RC, and QR 27/40. The 2009 sample test had some very tough QR questions that I did not know how to solve at all.
 
for those preparing to take the DAT: i apologize if seeing my scores is intimidating. i think i got very lucky with the questions i had on my test and how they matched up with exactly what i had studied. i just want to say that if dental school is where you really want to go, give your very best effort in preparing for this test. if you've already scheduled your DAT, something about dentistry must have been appealing enough to you to get you to pay that big registration fee. if dentistry is really what you want to pursue, you must find a way to study hard and do well on this test. use something to motivate you. when i felt that i was losing motivation, i thought of all the patients i wouldn't be able to help if i didn't make it into dental school as well as providing for my family in the future. do your best to study for the DAT, but more than that, do your best in whatever you do.
 
Double U - Oh- Double U!!!!

Could you post your topscore and Achiever scores if you get a chance? Thanks!

Achiever:
Bio / GC / Orgo / PAT / RC / QR
Achiever 1: 17 / 19 / 21 / 18 / 19 / 20
Achiever 2: 15 / 17 / 18 / 18 / 19 / 16
Achiever 3: 16 / 20 / 25 / 18 / 17 / 19
Achiever 4: 17 / 19 / 18 / 18 / 17 / 15
Achiever 5: 16 / 17 / 14 / 19 / 17 / 20

Topscore:
Bio / GC / Orgo / PAT / RC / QR
Topscore 1: 20 / 21 / 23 / 24 / 21 / 22
Topscore 2: 19 / 19 / 23 / 23 / 22 / 21
Topscore 3*: 20 / 21 / 23 / 24 / 23 / 29

*Topscore 3 was taken the day before the real exam

Crack DAT PAT
20, 21, 21, 22, 23
I did not do tests 6-10 because I ran out of time. The angle practice problems from CDP helped a lot even though I kept the setting at 4 degrees. I used the laptop method (acute angles), hill steepness method (obtuse angles), and for ones that were oriented in an upside down V, I kind of just asked "which one looks more smooshed" and the ones that are more smooshed are larger. The paper folding practice problems also were very helpful. Coming from Hawaii, I did lots of origami when I was growing up, so the paper folding section was the most fun for me.


I probably averaged around a 20 on the datQvault tests the first time through with some as low as 18 and some as high as 22.


Also, some possibly useful links:

Orgo reaction flashcards.
I only did about 5 or 10 of these out of the whole thing, but they looked pretty good. http://legacyweb.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/flashcards/

Pythagorean triples.
Know the pythagorean triples!!! Knowing these really helps to save time on the QR section. I would be sure to memorize the first row of the list provided here: http://www.mathsisfun.com/pythagorean_triples.html

The eyeballing game. I forgot to list this as one of my PAT resources, but this game helped me a lot for discrimination between angles that were around 90 degrees. I used this game as a study break when studying DAT material. http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/

And also as a side note, I did not take the Kaplan course b/c it was out of my budget. But if guided studying is what you need to learn/review the material, then maybe Kaplan is for you.
 
Wow so I can't believe I'm all done with the DAT. Although I have been reading a lot on this forum, I don't post very much. Anyway, I thought I'd share my scores from today:

Bio 26
GC 28
Orgo 29
PAT 24
RC 23
QR 27
TS 28
AA 27 🙂
(you can see the percentiles in the attached image)

I'll really did not think I was going to score this high for two reasons: 1) My practice test scores (achiever, topscore) were much lower and 2) other than spring break (2 weeks) + 4 weekends in the spring semester + 2.5 weeks after finals, I did not spend any additional time studying.

I would like to thank everyone on these forums for posting DAT-related questions and answers.

Reading all about how other people have studied for months on end on this forum, I was quite intimidated going into the test. I would just like to let everyone know who is preparing to take the DAT in the near future that IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO WELL ON THIS TEST WITHOUT STUDYING FOR MONTHS ON END. If you studied hard in your basic science courses, you should be well prepared for success. Classes are quite difficult and time consuming at my school, thus I had very little time to devote to DAT preparation.

With that said, here is a brief breakdown of each of the sections:

Bio (datQvault, destroyer, Wolfe videos, Barrons AP bio, Examkrackers, Audio Osmosis, Kaplan 2008 book from amazon): Although I am a molecular biology major, this has always been the toughest section for me because 1) I did not take AP bio in high school and 2) my intro bio courses did not cover the same material as the DAT (nor did my intro bio professors stress memorization of facts). Out of all my study materials, datQvault, the Wolfe videos, and Barrons AP bio book were key. The examkrackers bio book and the audio osmosis were very helpful with anatomy and physiology type questions. I listened to the bio CDs of the audio osmosis over and over (every night as I fell asleep for maybe 2 months and sometimes when I worked in the lab). I did all datQvault 10 tests and reviewed them once more the day before my exam. This is a great resource and I highly recommend it. The Wolfe videos were great for reproductive-related topics as well as immunology. The Barrons book was great for all around review. The questions on the actual test were quite random and I probably marked 10 questions as I was going through the first time.

GC (destroyer): I took chemistry and AP chemistry in high school and general chemistry in college, so I did not review much for this section. I went through destroyer once and that was it. Destroyer was great review, but I felt it went into unnecessary detail at times. I did not have any pH or log calculations on this section, although I was prepared to do them thanks to destroyer. The actual test wasn't too bad and many of the calculation type questions were written out instead of condensed as a final value.

Orgo (destroyer, ACS organic): Orgo as a subject has always been oddly kind of fun for me, so I enjoyed this section. The ACS organic review book was very helpful and I highly recommend it. I did destroyer once through as practice. The actual test wasn't bad at all.

PAT (crack DAT PAT, Barrons DAT): WARNING--maybe I was just nervous, but I though the actual test was harder than crack DAT PAT. I had scored around 22 and 23 on the last few crack DAT PAT tests I did, but I did not have a confident feeling when I finished the actual PAT. Also, although achiever is very very difficult, I really feel that my success on this section is due to the tough problems I was seeing on achiever tests. Achiever really helped me to improve my PAT abilities. Practice really is key for this section.

RC (nothing other than achiever and topscore): I really enjoyed the passages I had and although this section requires a lot of concentration, it isn't too bad if you've actually been reading all of those assigned textbook and primary literature readings assigned for classes 🙂. I once heard that if you tell yourself you are genuinely interested the passages you're assigned, you'll remember more.

QR (destroyer, math destroyer [2 tests], Khan academy): I would have liked to review more for this section, but I ran out of studying time. Out of the time I did devote to studying QR, the Khan academy videos were very helpful in explaining combinations, permutations, and the probability associated with them. I was making good time up until I hit a couple of hard questions around #20 on the real exam. I burned up some time on these, but I ended up guessing on them knowing that this would allow me to have a look at possibly easier questions in the second half of the section. Timing is the biggest issue for this section, so if you get to a tough question that you don't know how to solve, just guess and come back if you have time. Also (about the windows calculator), you are not allowed to use the keyboard keys and there was a very very slight lag when entering repeated numbers. It is definitely better than the achiever calculator (which didn't allow me to input decimal points on some of the numbers and also had major lag).



Thanks everyone and I'm off to go get some drinks with my gf 😀

Amazing grades. Congrats. How do I get Wolfes videos, and Audio osmosis. Taking the dat in Aug. Appreciate the tips
 
Amazing grades. Congrats. How do I get Wolfes videos, and Audio osmosis. Taking the dat in Aug. Appreciate the tips

I downloaded the Wolfe videos from a link provided in a thread from the DAT discussion forum. The download takes quite a while, but once you have all the parts you can just splice them together (the splicer is also listed as one of the download files).

For the Examkrackers Audio Osmosis, I have a lot of pre med friends at my school (i think i'm one of the only pre dental students in my class!!😱) and one of my friends let me "borrow" his set of the CDs.

Best of luck with your DAT studying and I hope you do well in August!
 
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