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In last 2 years DAT has gotten closer and closer to MCAT and far from what it used to be.
ADA has not posted even one notification or any update on their site to inform students about this. SO the only choice for students is asking from eachother. As an example now there is whole different subjects on MAth, BIO and RC, but ADA's sample test on their website belongs to 1993!!!! YES 1993!! they keep changing the first page every year, so first page says Sample test 2004, Sample test 2006 and 07, the same thing, and it belongs to 1993 and you can find the published version of it. The specifications (subject materials for study) is not updated. I'll come to that later.
You see my point. ADA has not been successful in doing what they should do, which is commitment and updating students with new information. Where else on earth we should get info from if the test maker doesn't tell us. I think if you are getting paid you should be committed and responsible.
Their incomplete and disasterous imitation from MCAT's RC and Bio is the worst ever. B/c it is no longer Mcat or even DAT (like a stupid slide with an explanation that I got and I was supposed to interpret and apply the knowledge from the slide, set aside the fact that first I had to know what was that slide). It just doesn't work when you are trying to imitate some thing without putting some thought in it.
On Math section, we have the same subject specifications on ADA's website from 10 years ago, whereas math had a radical change in last two years. Anyone who has taken the test, knows that what they cover is far more than what is sited on specification materials(subject materials). That subject material should have been updated long ago, but it is not.
RC has been another unsuccessful mimic. B/c ADA they forgot the main thing which is evaluating test takers' understanding of the passage in a fairly managable time, but not putting a stupid car racing test! ( indeed it is like a racing test and not a reading test) MCAT is managable. MCAT has 8-9 short passages, which you get one hour and half by the way to do. Each passage has 7 question and it is really doable with tone questions. Second, on MCAT they tell you the line number when they are asking a specific question on a key word or point of the author on that line.
Since ADA tries to mimic what is on MCAT, they decided to make RC like MCAT (more understanding and tone) but they forgot to notice ( or simply didn't put some time) the obvious difference which was DAT's LONG passages (by the way they made it longer instead of shorter!!!) Second they forgot that MCAT considers time management and its possibil for a student with a fairly good reading ability, so they give you the line number, DAT doesn't. And alot more... I'm sorry It is just too much to write.. I guess you know it yourself...
It is unfortunate that ADA people have to compare themselves with MCAT makers (b/c honestly it is 2 different thing, not that is better or worse, it is just different) So ADA better stop mimicing them and be creative, or even better let us take MCAT.
You might have experienced it yourself that getting a fairly high score on MCAT's RC is not hard. Peole who read 101 MCAT passage and get over 90% on it, end up with 15 and16 on DAT RC. What does it show, except that something is not right about format of this test. B/C MCAT test makers are not trying to kick your ass, but they are trying to see if you really understand the text. It is not CAr RACing ..The worst thing is bad mimic. ADA trying to mimic Mcat's RC has created something which is not MCAT nor DAT it is a really stupid way of evaluation..well,... if they ever overcome the inferiority complex!!
Let me make this clear that we are not talking about 2% of geniuses out of 5% DAT takers on SDN. Although my genius freind says he had just one mitake in whole 101 passage, but guess what he got on DAT? He got 23, meaining that he got about 9-10 wrong answers out of just 50 question on DAT's RC, which seems not right! I really doubt that they put enough time even on this newly RC format!
The main point is what ADA does wrong. They are not updating students with changes that is happeing and has happened. They have to inform students by law with any updates, and any changes and they have failed to do that in last few years, and they getaway with it easily. B/c no one will sue them.
Did any of you saw anything about laminated sheets on their website,(changing paper to boards) no.. This site was the only place that we came together and informed eachother about that not ADA...
What do you think we should do? Please tell us what you think. Don't just read! At least just say your opinion. I guess everyone has one.
P.S. Good luck every body. (appologies for any errors, I've been writing for a while, so I can't reread and do any correction for now)
ADA has not posted even one notification or any update on their site to inform students about this. SO the only choice for students is asking from eachother. As an example now there is whole different subjects on MAth, BIO and RC, but ADA's sample test on their website belongs to 1993!!!! YES 1993!! they keep changing the first page every year, so first page says Sample test 2004, Sample test 2006 and 07, the same thing, and it belongs to 1993 and you can find the published version of it. The specifications (subject materials for study) is not updated. I'll come to that later.
You see my point. ADA has not been successful in doing what they should do, which is commitment and updating students with new information. Where else on earth we should get info from if the test maker doesn't tell us. I think if you are getting paid you should be committed and responsible.
Their incomplete and disasterous imitation from MCAT's RC and Bio is the worst ever. B/c it is no longer Mcat or even DAT (like a stupid slide with an explanation that I got and I was supposed to interpret and apply the knowledge from the slide, set aside the fact that first I had to know what was that slide). It just doesn't work when you are trying to imitate some thing without putting some thought in it.
On Math section, we have the same subject specifications on ADA's website from 10 years ago, whereas math had a radical change in last two years. Anyone who has taken the test, knows that what they cover is far more than what is sited on specification materials(subject materials). That subject material should have been updated long ago, but it is not.
RC has been another unsuccessful mimic. B/c ADA they forgot the main thing which is evaluating test takers' understanding of the passage in a fairly managable time, but not putting a stupid car racing test! ( indeed it is like a racing test and not a reading test) MCAT is managable. MCAT has 8-9 short passages, which you get one hour and half by the way to do. Each passage has 7 question and it is really doable with tone questions. Second, on MCAT they tell you the line number when they are asking a specific question on a key word or point of the author on that line.
Since ADA tries to mimic what is on MCAT, they decided to make RC like MCAT (more understanding and tone) but they forgot to notice ( or simply didn't put some time) the obvious difference which was DAT's LONG passages (by the way they made it longer instead of shorter!!!) Second they forgot that MCAT considers time management and its possibil for a student with a fairly good reading ability, so they give you the line number, DAT doesn't. And alot more... I'm sorry It is just too much to write.. I guess you know it yourself...
It is unfortunate that ADA people have to compare themselves with MCAT makers (b/c honestly it is 2 different thing, not that is better or worse, it is just different) So ADA better stop mimicing them and be creative, or even better let us take MCAT.
You might have experienced it yourself that getting a fairly high score on MCAT's RC is not hard. Peole who read 101 MCAT passage and get over 90% on it, end up with 15 and16 on DAT RC. What does it show, except that something is not right about format of this test. B/C MCAT test makers are not trying to kick your ass, but they are trying to see if you really understand the text. It is not CAr RACing ..The worst thing is bad mimic. ADA trying to mimic Mcat's RC has created something which is not MCAT nor DAT it is a really stupid way of evaluation..well,... if they ever overcome the inferiority complex!!
Let me make this clear that we are not talking about 2% of geniuses out of 5% DAT takers on SDN. Although my genius freind says he had just one mitake in whole 101 passage, but guess what he got on DAT? He got 23, meaining that he got about 9-10 wrong answers out of just 50 question on DAT's RC, which seems not right! I really doubt that they put enough time even on this newly RC format!
The main point is what ADA does wrong. They are not updating students with changes that is happeing and has happened. They have to inform students by law with any updates, and any changes and they have failed to do that in last few years, and they getaway with it easily. B/c no one will sue them.
Did any of you saw anything about laminated sheets on their website,(changing paper to boards) no.. This site was the only place that we came together and informed eachother about that not ADA...
What do you think we should do? Please tell us what you think. Don't just read! At least just say your opinion. I guess everyone has one.
P.S. Good luck every body. (appologies for any errors, I've been writing for a while, so I can't reread and do any correction for now)
) that this is just an anomaly. 
