DAT scores by ethnicity..

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[willwash]

Try this:

http://www.foia.gov/how-to.html

Good luck

 

[hajin]

I'm curious too. I think we need DAT affirmative action just like we have with SAT scores. Someone needs to understand the plight of the middle class white male and the huge societal disadvantage we face called "laziness" which makes it impossible to fairly compete with Asian applicants. lol
-White guy

 

[Blackhorse90]

 

[goblueyeah]

I'm curious too. I think we need DAT affirmative action just like we have with SAT scores. Someone needs to understand the plight of the middle class white male and the huge societal disadvantage we face called "laziness" which makes it impossible to fairly compete with Asian applicants. lol
-White guy

Even though Asians have the highest DAT scores and good extracurriculars, their admission rate is always lower than white applicants. In a sense, Asian identity is used as a minus factor in admissions. Now who has the huge societal disadvantage? Honestly, since United States is still white-dominant, you should not worry about having any disadvantage because of your race. The society will still facilitate your success more than any other racial groups. If you cannot see this now, I suggest you read some articles about social justice.

 

[cacajuate]

Even though Asians have the highest DAT scores and good extracurriculars, their admission rate is always lower than white applicants. In a sense, Asian identity is used as a minus factor in admissions. Now who has the huge societal disadvantage? Honestly, since United States is still white-dominant, you should not worry about having any disadvantage because of your race. The society will still facilitate your success more than any other racial groups. If you cannot see this now, I suggest you read some articles about social justice.

Whoa tiger, where did you find this information about highest DAT and best EC but have lower admission rates than white applicants?

 

[BeaverLover]

Even though Asians have the highest DAT scores and good extracurriculars, their admission rate is always lower than white applicants. In a sense, Asian identity is used as a minus factor in admissions. Now who has the huge societal disadvantage? Honestly, since United States is still white-dominant, you should not worry about having any disadvantage because of your race. The society will still facilitate your success more than any other racial groups. If you cannot see this now, I suggest you read some articles about social justice.

UCSF and WesternU certainly don't mind seeing as 1/2, if not more, are Asians

 

[willwash]

Schools are pretty open about it, they look for representation of each race in the student body that is close to their representation in the population. Asians, being overrepresented (<10% of US population but often 30% or more of dental school student bodies), face downward pressure relative to their numbers. Whites are also underrepresented based on these ratios alone, but get no boost. AAs and Hispanics are underrepresented to a much higher extent and are given a boost.

 

[goblueyeah]

Whoa tiger, where did you find this information about highest DAT and best EC but have lower admission rates than white applicants?

You can calculate admission rate (admitted/applied) from ADEA Official Guide to Dental Schools, most schools have highest admission rate for white applicants. You can get the highest average DAT information from the 2009 DAT report. Asians had the highest average scores in almost all sections except RC. However, Asians are often the victims of stereotypes such as lack of interpersonal skills and creativity. There are many cases out there where Asians American applicants have all excellent credentials but yet get denied (you can get the idea from here http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/24/why-are-so-many-missing-out-on-ivy-league-schools). For undergraduate, California Institute of Technology does not consider race in admission and have around 40% of Asian Americans, while schools like Harvard only has 21% (evidence of race as a minus factor). One factor that contributes to this is that Asian Americans are overrepresented in higher education and professional schools; therefore, many schools tend to have the "Bamboo Ceiling" in order to ensure diversity in the class (Similar things happened to Jewish people a century ago). It will always be a conundrum as to whether the school should be a gatekeeper of society and have the diversity represented or if they should admit students only based on credentials.

While some Asian Americans attribute their disadvantage to affirmative actions. I personally think that even if this is true, the system here is trying to make sure that white applicants are intact in the process. They are most likely to be in the neutral, if not positive, standing while Asians suffer from more substantial minus factors due to their race (disclaimer: I can be wrong about this).

Anyway, I suggest those future care providers to be more socially aware and take in more perspectives outside their comfort bubbles, especially for those that complain about the disadvantage without realizing the larger system they benefit from and the bigger disadvantages for minorities.

 

[goblueyeah]

According to Dr. Toothache's new dental school guide. The rate of enrollment for Asian Americans is almost 5% lower than that of the applicant pool. And the only racial group I see getting a boost (5%) is White.

 

[cacajuate]

According to Dr. Toothache's new dental school guide. The rate of enrollment for Asian Americans is almost 5% lower than that of the applicant pool. And the only racial group I see getting a boost (5%) is White.

Asians are 5% of the population but are almost 25% of enrollees. Where is the asian prejudice?

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

Cali has banned affirmative action in higher education since 1996 so Asians have been just dominating the University of California system. In 2014, they made up of 14% of the high school graduates in Cali, but made up over a third of UC students.

There has been some debate on whether to implement Affirmative action again in the school systems, but it's being challenged intensively by the 80-20 initiative, an Asian-american lobby group.

The biggest group of Asian Americans that value higher education are Indian-Americans, in which 68% have at least a Bachelors degree, compared to around 25% of the general population.

I agree that you have to work as hard as you can, so you can put yourself in a better position for matriculating into professional school, but you also be aware of the political climate as it can affect your chances more than you think.

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

Asians are 5% of the population but are almost 25% of enrollees. Where is the asian prejudice?

You can play that game. Or you can be objective and compare applicants based on their grades and CV. If Affirmative Action was banned everywhere, it would be a lot higher than 25% of enrollees.

But Affirmative Action does serve a purpose and I do agree with its philosophy. That's because I excelled in school, even with respect to my Asian American peers, so it doesn't affect me one bit. But if I had a borderline child and laws like these can affect their chances of getting into professional school, maybe I will change my tune.

 

[PlasmaMembrane]

Asians are 5% of the population but are almost 25% of enrollees. Where is the asian prejudice?

He seems to believe that they should hold an even higher percentage of enrollees...because of DAT scores, or something.

 

[goblueyeah]

Asians are 5% of the population but are almost 25% of enrollees. Where is the asian prejudice?

I think it is more reasonable to look at admission rate instead of the percentage enrolled. I have no idea what you meant by prejudice.

The fundamental problem here is that we are all individuals with diversity within the same racial group. However, society and institute sometimes judge us not as individuals, but let certain identity like race outshines our individuality. While the system can never be fair, there are still ways for individual to succeed with his/her effort. If the odd is in your favor, good for you. But don't act ungratefully and refuse to see things from other people's shoes.

 

[cacajuate]

The fundamental problem here is that we are all individuals with diversity within the same racial group. However, society and institute sometimes judge us not as individuals, but let certain identity like race outshines our individuality. While the system can never be fair, there are still ways for individual to succeed with his/her effort. If the odd is in your favor, good for you. But don't act ungratefully and refuse to see things from other people's shoes.

Agreed.

 

[elitexspeed2]

You should probably put more energy into doing well on the exam than worrying about how others do.

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