Dealing with mean ppl

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drlee

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Lately I've been frustrated by the interactions with rude, disrespectful ppl in my hospital. I'm a resident at a small community hospital in a nice, upscale area of Chicago. These people encompass a wide range of subjects, including nurses, residents, and attendings. Today was especially bad. It seemed like everyone was having a bad day, especially the females. Perhaps they're all PMSing at the same time! I'm trying my best to not take such rudeness personally but it's difficult. Moreover, I feel like I want to escape medicine altogether to avoid so many malignant personalities. Does anybody else feel this way? How do you deal with mean people?

P.S. Mean people do suck!!! 😀
 
Yeah. But let me tell you from someone not working in medicine (yet!) - there are mean people in every field and in every organisation. So don't start thinking that the grass is greener and people are nicer - they aren't! Just try and notice and remember the days that everyone is in a good mood and you save lots of lives. They do happen, just as bad days do too, but we just don't seem to remember them as much.

Craig
 
dont let this get you down. you gotta shake it off, tomorrow is another day! if you feel especially frustrated do something that you love. take a walk, watch a movie, relax. if you still feel upset get yourself a punching bag and go to town on it. 😉 this will make you feel much better, promise. what specialty are you a resident in?
 
one of the best ways to scare off mean people is to grow yourself some tentacles and breathe fire. Youve never seen a mean person backpedal so fast as when escaping a tentacled fire breather, no sir.
 
drlee said:
Lately I've been frustrated by the interactions with rude, disrespectful ppl in my hospital. I'm a resident at a small community hospital in a nice, upscale area of Chicago. These people encompass a wide range of subjects, including nurses, residents, and attendings. Today was especially bad. It seemed like everyone was having a bad day, especially the females. Perhaps they're all PMSing at the same time! I'm trying my best to not take such rudeness personally but it's difficult. Moreover, I feel like I want to escape medicine altogether to avoid so many malignant personalities. Does anybody else feel this way? How do you deal with mean people?

P.S. Mean people do suck!!! 😀


Not to be a mean person... well maybe a touch mean, but if all these people are rude to you, is it possible that you might suck? That you're not living up to your expectations? Might as well suck it up and go about your business.
 
To the original poster: When someone you meet shows a lack of civility (e.g. like some of the other posters on this thread), ignore them since it's their problem and you can do nothing to change them.
 
grow some thicker skin. I know youre not a gen surg resident because they would chew you up. ..

Serioursly though if you cant handle pressure like that what are you gonna do when you have a terminal patient and have to talk to a family that is hostile.

The best approach to any of this is three fold...be a team player, work your ass off, and know your medicine. This will keep most people off your back. And for the ones that still ride you there is nothing better than an inteligent polite answer to shut them up...So know your medicine well.
 
To OP (and not the other mean people): You can tell that some if not all of the responses so far are from those mean people you are bitching about! How ironic! Anyways, I've been where you are, and am still there at times. I even considered leaving medicine for it, until I realized that, as someone else has said, those people are everywhere. The point is that you don't want to get up and dread going to work b/c you don't know if people are in a good mood or not. Also, not to say that you "suck" as another person has said, but even if you did "suck" there's a certain way people need to acknowledge others and express their concerns in a respectful way. I think anyone can like any job as long as they get respect for what they do. Period. And to grow some thicker skin is not the answer, and in my opinion that's why this country is so f***ed up....people think that they can walk all over others without any consideration or respect, and this is evident in the home, at schools, and, yes, even in our profession....notice the word "profession", "professional".....doesn't that require respect?!?! My point is I'm not one of those really sensitive people who cries when someone yells at me...in fact I should take some of my own advice at times and try to be more respectful....I just wish people would stop responding in such a negative way to posts like this b/c it is a big issue in most places, and it ends up trickling down to others including patients. Also, don't forget about mental health in health professionals....not an insignificant issue at all! Finally, I've been around enough surgeons to know that they don't take this issue lightly, and there are changes being made to make the specialty more amenable to people who don't want to be pissed on all day!
 
moha said:
To OP (and not the other mean people): You can tell that some if not all of the responses so far are from those mean people you are bitching about! How ironic! Anyways, I've been where you are, and am still there at times. I even considered leaving medicine for it, until I realized that, as someone else has said, those people are everywhere. The point is that you don't want to get up and dread going to work b/c you don't know if people are in a good mood or not. Also, not to say that you "suck" as another person has said, but even if you did "suck" there's a certain way people need to acknowledge others and express their concerns in a respectful way. I think anyone can like any job as long as they get respect for what they do. Period. And to grow some thicker skin is not the answer, and in my opinion that's why this country is so f***ed up....people think that they can walk all over others without any consideration or respect, and this is evident in the home, at schools, and, yes, even in our profession....notice the word "profession", "professional".....doesn't that require respect?!?! My point is I'm not one of those really sensitive people who cries when someone yells at me...in fact I should take some of my own advice at times and try to be more respectful....I just wish people would stop responding in such a negative way to posts like this b/c it is a big issue in most places, and it ends up trickling down to others including patients. Also, don't forget about mental health in health professionals....not an insignificant issue at all! Finally, I've been around enough surgeons to know that they don't take this issue lightly, and there are changes being made to make the specialty more amenable to people who don't want to be pissed on all day!

I agree with some of what you said. But llisten Ive been there. Ive been **** on by some of the best. And not just attendings, Try a marine CO in a combat zone.

Not that it was right and I dont propogate it at all. But my point is that you cant go around in life wearing your emmotions on your sleeve. You need to be stronger than that.

People that are "mean" are generally predators in a since. They are gonna go for the weak. If you let them get to you and its obvious then you appear weak and invite more attention.
 
1)DO not engage in any friendly conversation with anyone in the hospital that you havent seen at least several times and you have documented that they are benign.. The most benign remarks can come back to hurt you by the wrong people.
2) Everyone is out to screw you in medicine. Not really. but have that attitude and you wont have a problem. this is especially true at training institutions where nobody knows what the **** they are doing..
3) DO NOT MAKE SEXUAL REMARKS OR OFF COLOR REMARKS.. you absolutely do not need to be defending yourself in this arena

Hospitals and the like can be and are vicious environments.. You have many people working together who have different agendas.. ANd there is no consequence sometimes to pissing people off. So if a nurse pisses you off she doesnt really care because you will be gone in a short month or so. but if she knew she had to live with you for the long haul she or he would not show disrespect. This will not change.. especially in the academic arena..
 
I like to randomly tell people their attitude is absolutely unacceptable and unprofessional, with a dead serious look on my face, in a very quiet, concerned tone of voice. Just because I'm so jolly all the time, it sort of freaks them out. Haven't gotten to do this in a while since I became a student, but back when I was in the working world, it was fun times.

Keep in mind that life is hard, and you have no idea what other people are going through. Or keep in mind that people are idiots. Either way, find a way to get your mind around the fact that people will behave badly and it doesn't have to ruin your day. If they upset you, they are controlling your emotions and state of mind.

NEVER complain about the people you work with AT WORK. The only thing worse than having to work with people you don't get along with is being trapped in toxic gossip, plus you might really pick on the wrong person, a la "Oh yeah? Well, I slept with your wife! - George, his wife is in a coma." Turn all the evil drama into hilarious stories for your friends over tacos on Thursday nights.

Good luck!
 
i've found that being aloof and apathetic towards people i don't know does wonders about them leaving me alone.
 
Stay off the OB floor.
 
kill em with kindness.. go out of your way to be polite and helpful to every a-hole that you come across, always do it with a smile on your face and remember that its JUST A JOB and you still get to go home at the end of the day to your friends/family/tv/dog or whatever gives you joy in life. Hospitals are full of miserable people, your goal should be to make it through residency without becoming one of them.
 
Clue said:
Stay off the OB floor.


:laugh: True, that!

Well, I agree with what you're saying and I am still a student. Some days I think I am going to scream I just can't take the meanspiritedness of other students and staff as well. I am really shocked at how upsetting it can be. I have to be very careful to not engage in anything other than a 'hey there' kind of comment (altho one time I said that to a classmate and he got really mad at me: what do you mean by THAT, he said. Well, I said, 'hey there' just means hello, doesn't it?

It's exhausting sometimes and I really dread it ...
 
Someone attributed that I said that the OP "sucked". I asked if it was possible that they might suck.... big differance.

Also, someone stated to the effect that a problem with this country is that people are encouraged to grow thick skin... what's wrong with being "tough". A big problem that I see is that a lot of people refuse to see the world as it is and only see it as they think it should be... in that case, hope you don't ever have to work in an ICU or on a trauma service or for that matter with sick patients. People sometimes seem mean in the hospital, but just because people aren't always smiling, having the time to bake cookies for co-workers, maybe it's b/c they are getting their job done.
 
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