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[vipassana]

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Hey guys,

I wanted to confirm about a switch from FP to Anes, after the internship year...Is there a grey zone or is it definitely ok. The reason I want to confirm is becos, FP does not have 4 months of surg and medicine each many other internships.

Is there a specific requirement for an internship to qualify for a Anes later. Need to decide in a few days.

Thanx!

 

[MS3NavyFS2B]

Hey guys,

I wanted to confirm about a switch from FP to Anes, after the internship year...Is there a grey zone or is it definitely ok. The reason I want to confirm is becos, FP does not have 4 months of surg and medicine each many other internships.

Is there a specific requirement for an internship to qualify for a Anes later. Need to decide in a few days.

Thanx!

They take medicine, surgery, family medicine, transitional, pediatrics, ob/gyn, and underwater basket weaving as intern years.

 

[Skip Intro]

Hey guys,

I wanted to confirm about a switch from FP to Anes, after the internship year...Is there a grey zone or is it definitely ok. The reason I want to confirm is becos, FP does not have 4 months of surg and medicine each many other internships.

Is there a specific requirement for an internship to qualify for a Anes later. Need to decide in a few days.

Thanx!

Hi vipassana! Welcome to the Anesthesia forum!

It is highly suggested, upon visiting and posting here for the first time and/or for someone who's new to this particular forum and interested in the field, that you read all of the FAQs (posted as stickies at the top of this forum) before you post.

If you have specific questions afterwards, people will try to be more helpful. It's just that what you are asking has been asked and answered literally a bajillion times before by the forum members, and some perceive it as "laziness" when Anesthesia "newbies" come into this forum and ask such questions without doing sufficient background investigations on their own. To some, it may even further demonstrate a not-really-sincere interest in Anesthesiology, a field most of us have a real passion for and are professionally committed to. So, I hope you understand why you got that response above.

To that end, the FAQs are excellent in covering a lot of these bases - including the question you asked. If you still have specific questions after reading the FAQs, people will most likely be more helpful.

Seek and ye shall find. Good luck to you!

-Skip

 

[cak]

Almost any internship will do. I'm finishing surgery which had ZERO medicine months, and no one had a problem with this. I'm sure that no one will have a problem with an FP internship either.
Good luck!

 

[CambieMD]

Hey guys,

I wanted to confirm about a switch from FP to Anes, after the internship year...Is there a grey zone or is it definitely ok. The reason I want to confirm is becos, FP does not have 4 months of surg and medicine each many other internships.

Is there a specific requirement for an internship to qualify for a Anes later. Need to decide in a few days.

Thanx!

What is there to decide. You need to decide to do gas or stay in FP?

You cannot decide in a few days. You sound like you still need to do a lot of research. You need to know exactly what it is you are getting into.


CambieMD

 

[hoyden]

What is there to decide. You need to decide to do gas or stay in FP?

You cannot decide in a few days. You sound like you still need to do a lot of research. You need to know exactly what it is you are getting into.


CambieMD

Hey, guys. It is sometimes more broad than you imagine and the time could be just few days. And the reasons could be a little more complicated, than just pure love or hate 🙂 You are just asking from your own perspective. The others may have a different one. I am not sure, but somewhere I've read, that first year from ALL residencies is valid as an internship year( for gas) for AMGs only. Maybe it also includes FMGs, but for IMGs the requirements sometimes are more strict. I can't specify, where I've read this - I think it was a website of some gas program. Anyway, the topic is NOT covered in FAQs, I mean with all the specifics, including different categories of the applicants.

 

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I am not sure, but somewhere I've read, that first year from ALL residencies is valid as an internship year( for gas) for AMGs only. Maybe it also includes FMGs, but for IMGs the requirements sometimes are more strict.

You heard (or read) wrong.

The rules are the rules, my friend. What applies to AMGs is the same for IMGs in this regard. If you are a true, non-U.S. citizen IMG, your issues may reside more with green cards, visas, etc. Otherwise, a board-approved internship is a board-approved internship, and this doesn't change no matter where you went to allopathic medical school, U.S. or abroad. The only thing you may be thinking of is that in some states osteopaths are required to do an AOA-approved rotating internship in order to get their medical license (e.g., Pennsylvania), but this still also counts for their gas CBY.

But, this is the definitive word on the subject...

One year of the total training must be the Clinical Base Year, which should provide the resident with 12 months of broad education in medical disciplines relevant to the practice of anesthesiology. The Clinical Base Year usually precedes training in clinical anesthesia. It is strongly recommended that the Clinical Base Year be completed before the resident begins the CA-2 year; the Clinical Base Year, however, must be completed before the resident begins the CA-3 year.

The Clinical Base Year must include at least 10 months of clinical rotations, of which at most 1 month may involve training in anesthesiology. Clinical Base Year rotations include training in internal medicine or emergency medicine, pediatrics, surgery or any of the surgical specialties, critical care medicine, obstetrics and gynecology, neurology, family practice, or any combination of these. At most, 2 months of the Clinical Base Year may be taken in electives or in specialties other than those listed above. If an accredited anesthesiology program offers this year of training, the RRC will verify that the content is acceptable. When the parent institution provides the Clinical Base Year, the anesthesiology program director must approve the rotations for individual residents, and must have general oversight for rotations on the services that are used for the Clinical Base Year.

http://www.acgme.org/acWebsite/downloads/RRC_progReq/040pr703_u804.pdf

-Skip

 

[vipassana]

Thanx a zillion!!

And yes, sometimes decisions to follow your dream , passion and what has been a profession already have to be made in a few days. Not all is black or white...( fortunately).

For some it might have been a demonstration of laziness, but for many it might have been a reaffirmation that things are occassionally different for IMG's. I am in no way playing my ' violin' , quite the contrary infact!

But, I wanted to be certain about the information and what better way to do it than ask the wise souls who have studied in the system here. But all advice is welcome and received positively!!! 🙂

 

[hoyden]

Thanks, Skip.
being an IMG myself, I could read between the lines and know what was the point of the question 🙂, that's why I tried to underline it. As to the rules, you know, that sometimes, somewhere by somebody they are not followed directly.
That's why at some program's websites, there are different requirements for IMGs only. And sometimes, it happens, they are not the rules in real life.