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Has anyone hear ever heard of Debakey High School? Someone told me it had a 99.9% acceptance rate into medschool... especially BCM... It's in Houston, Texas... Does anyone have any info on it?
 
nrut88 said:
Has anyone hear ever heard of Debakey High School? Someone told me it had a 99.9% acceptance rate into medschool... especially BCM... It's in Houston, Texas... Does anyone have any info on it?


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99.9% acceptance rate from High School....wow, I wasted my life.
 
nrut88 said:
Has anyone hear ever heard of Debakey High School? Someone told me it had a 99.9% acceptance rate into medschool... especially BCM... It's in Houston, Texas... Does anyone have any info on it?


My sisters went to Debakey!!!

One never finished college and the other is a physician in Houston (in TMC at Texas Women's to be exact)
 
According to this
http://hs.houstonisd.org/debakeyhs/AboutUs.html#background said:
Currently, 98% of DeBakey HSHP's graduates attain postsecondary education. A follow-up study of the 2,033 students who graduated from the high school between 1975-1987 indicated that the DeBakey HSHP had successfully prepared its graduates to access education and careers in health-related and scientific professions. Respondents indicated that they:

had maintained interest in and were pursuing studies leading to careers in the health sciences (56%)
I have a hard time believing that those other 34% somehow ended up in med school. I wouldn't be surprised if they did have an inordinately high percentage of students who matriculated in med school. All they really have to teach them is the importance of a life-long commitment to serving others and how to pursue that through extracurriculars and some good study skills. It's a magnet school so they can already weed out the kids who are sort of dumb.
 
I bet their football team is terrible.
 
nrut88 said:
Has anyone hear ever heard of Debakey High School? Someone told me it had a 99.9% acceptance rate into medschool... especially BCM... It's in Houston, Texas... Does anyone have any info on it?

Check the "About Us" part of the site. The 99.9% acceptance rate your friend spoke of is a complete exaggeration. 92% of their students go on to attend college, of which only 56% maintained an interest in a "health professions career" (not necessarily medicine), of which 30% actually went into medicine.


No offense but this school is all bark and no bite. Look at their admission requirements... it's about as vigorous as melted blue cheese. Even an average student could get in to this school. Look at their average SAT scores in the past years. 1140. They consider this a magnet school in Texas!?!? Virginia's magnet school (Thomas Jefferson HSST) has a much much higher SAT average, and far more rigorous admission requirement.


Still, it's an interesting idea. It almost seems like a trade school, but it's a neat idea to have a high school in this nation that caters to the cultivation of health professionals.
 
crazy_cavalier said:
Check the "About Us" part of the site. The 99.9% acceptance rate your friend spoke of is a complete exaggeration. 92% of their students go on to attend college, of which only 56% maintained an interest in a "health professions career" (not necessarily medicine), of which 30% actually went into medicine.


No offense but this school is all bark and no bite. Look at their admission requirements... it's about as vigorous as melted blue cheese. Even an average student could get in to this school. Look at their average SAT scores in the past years. 1140. They consider this a magnet school in Texas!?!? Virginia's magnet school (Thomas Jefferson HSST) has a much much higher SAT average, and far more rigorous admission requirement.


Still, it's an interesting idea. It almost seems like a trade school, but it's a neat idea to have a high school in this nation that caters to the cultivation of health professionals.



Dang....that was an "owned" post if I ever saw one.
 
What the other posters said. It's not that terribly impressive. If you want a real impressive school in the Houston area look at St. John's or Bellaire HS. (Anyone here went to a Fort Bend ISD school, by the way?)

I think a couple of the top students from the senior class at Debakey are guaranteed admission into Baylor, from what I heard. Or it may be just 1 student.
 
potato51 said:
What the other posters said. It's not that terribly impressive. If you want a real impressive school in the Houston area look at St. John's or Bellaire HS. (Anyone here went to a Fort Bend ISD school, by the way?)

I think a couple of the top students from the senior class at Debakey are guaranteed admission into Baylor, from what I heard. Or it may be just 1 student.

I went to high school and Houston and I've never heard anything too impressive from Debakey high school. They do get early exposure to different things in the medical and healthscience fields, but its not like they get a leg up in anything. Like the stats say, they are mediocre at best...and just because they have a famous heart surgeon name as their school name doesn't make them better.

I wouldn't be suprised if there were some smart, bright, and brilliant students there, but i would think that you are going to find that at any school...and its more than likely going to be a minority, not a majority.
 
What would be impressive is to take a public high school that is filled by students in it's certain district and have them report such high a graduate school admission rate. Who cares if a private school can pick the most promising (and high paying) students then brag about how 99% of them go to one graduate school or another?

My graduating class in high school reported that 60% planned to attend undergraduate college. Given the same resources and students as my public high school's administration had I bet that fancy ass private school in Texas wouldn't be much above average.

There is nothing to brag about if you fill your classes with overachievers to begin with. Come talk to me when you figure out a way to turn the drop-outs into overachievers (and presidents).
 
I had a few friends in debakey, the school wasn't that great. They recently got a new building, previously it was one with 2 hallways. Also the physical education did not have a track or anything of the sort, instead they had to run around the local neighborhood. It sounds alot fancier than it is.
 
This is interesting. I wonder what the stats would be for my high school, which was also a magnet. We had 99% attending college. I'd bet the stats for med school would be pretty high. Remembering back to my high school classmates, I wouldn't be too surprised 😛

Magnet schools are cool though. I was really lucky to get an excellent education through them. Some people are anti-magnet because they say it takes away from the other public schools, but in my experience the kids who end up at the magnets would be eaten alive at a regular public. At least the ones I went to school with. Of course I went to tiny schools as a result (my high school had something like 350 students at the most).

I agree that it would be much more impressive to show high undergraduate graduation rates and grad school admission rates from the regular public high schools. Now THAT would show that somebody is doing something right.
 
Med-tallica said:
I had a few friends in debakey, the school wasn't that great. They recently got a new building, previously it was one with 2 hallways. Also the physical education did not have a track or anything of the sort, instead they had to run around the local neighborhood. It sounds alot fancier than it is.

I totally agree here...nothing too special about it. Just a regular high school that seems a lot more prestigious than it really is.
 
BaylorGuy said:
I totally agree here...nothing too special about it. Just a regular high school that seems a lot more prestigious than it really is.
The Debakey name makes all things prestigious.
 
I have 5 people total who went to the same high school I did in my med school class of 93 people (could be higher, I didn't really ask around) Not too bad. I know of a few in the class above mine who also went to the same high school I did.
 
i know a lot of friends who went to debakey. most of the people going into medicine are shoeins for med school because they are surrounded by opportunities. not that all of us aren't given these opportunities as well, it's just more widespread.

that being said. bellaire high students are among the best i've seen.
 
yourmom25 said:
i know a lot of friends who went to debakey. most of the people going into medicine are shoeins for med school because they are surrounded by opportunities. not that all of us aren't given these opportunities as well, it's just more widespread.

that being said. bellaire high students are among the best i've seen.
ive met a couple of debakey hs grads and they arent the brightest...one even took 6 years to graduate from UT without taking any sem off and retook some basic pre-med courses 3 times...i went to a magnet hs in austin where the avg SAT for us magnet students was 1340 or so and i doubt that many of us are going to med school...
 
I actually did go to DeBakey. The thing about DeBakey is that it's pretty easy to get in, as long as you're not a complete idiot, but it's hard to stay in. It's a really stressful school, and they give you a ton of work. In fact, I find college easier than DeBakey, as many students have. It's definitly not as stressful and does not give as much work. Not every student in DeBakey is a genius or very smart, but they have to take more classes than the average student does. Every student in DeBakey must pass an AP science class and AP Calculus or they can't get a DeBakey Diploma. Also, the typical freshman class has about 250 students, but by the second semester, about 30% leave, and by graduation, there are only about 100-150 students left. My class had 155, and for the school that was a huge graduating class. I've actually heard of a student who moved from DeBakey to Bellaire High School and became salutatorian, whereas in DeBakey she was nowhere near the top. It's definitly very defficult to get to the top in DeBakey because the top students are very competitive.

Also the question about Baylor and DeBakey. It is true that every year, 10 students (or less if there are not enough deserving of the award) get picked to be in a "Pre-medical Academy" in which they are accepted into UH (with a full scholarship), and automatically accepted to Baylor College of Medicine (with very minimal requirements including, I think, at least a 3.2 GPA and 22 on MCATs). I was chosen as one of the top 23 to be a runner up for this. We were actually interviewed in Baylor College of Medicine by professors and students there in the same format that they interview medical student candidates. They used to also give a full scholarship through Baylor College of Medicine, but they stopped paying for Baylor tuition because it has been costing them too much.

Overall, to me, DeBakey was a difficult and stressful school. I had a teacher that taught at The Kinkaid School (a very good private school in Houston) and she said that DeBakey is just like Kinkaid except public and focuses on healthcare. You also have to take into consideration that the majority of students in DeBakey came from low income families, and many of the children there are first generation college students. Unlike Bellaire and St. John's, few students come from wealthy families. DeBakey did mean for the high school to help bring in more minorities into health professions. The building is also indeed old (but they are renovating it this year) and most of the laboratory equiptment many years old, which is in part also because there are no rich families to donate large sums of money to the school for new material.

I think you should try going to school in DeBakey before actually judging it, because it's not the typical high school, and every student there knows it. I have not met one student who attended DeBakey and said that it was easy or fun. I do know students who left DeBakey because they could not handle the work and went to other schools like Bellaire or Lamar and found it much easier. When other seniors in high school were getting out of school early, we had our faces in our books in the library studying for the Calculus or Physics test.

... and we did have a track (we did run around the track, but sometimes our teacher would have us run around the nearby neighborhood for... I don't know why. I guess the scene was nicer, LOL.), tennis court, and basketball court behind our gym, but DeBakey PE was much more than exercising. We wrote essays and studied kenesiology. My friends and I like to look back at it now and laugh at how dorky we were.

... I also don't know what 2 hallway building is being mentioned up there since DeBakey is a 3 story building (and has been since they built the school building itself... HSHP, before it was DeBakey, classes used to be held at Baylor College of Medicine).

BTW, most people don't recognize the school when I say "DeBakey'" since it was formerly called "High School for Health Professions." In fact, I had no idea who DeBakey was when I applied for the school. When I say I went to "HSHP," though, many people assume that I'm "socially ******ed," enjoy dissecting cats, love drawing blood from my classmates, like looking at my own urine and blood, and spent my last 2 years of high school in the Texas Medical Center, which is of course quite true 😛.

See http://www.houstonpress.com/Issues/2006-03-02/news/feature.html
 
I agree with the previous poster. I went to Debakey many years ago as well and I remember doing a lot of workkk. Many students who go there are zoned to gang-prone schools. I chose to go to Debakey bc I was zoned to a school known for stabbing, stealing, fighting, etc... (at the time, don't know about now). My middle school had 4 police officers patroling on campus and who knows how many at my zoned high school. Yes, most of the students who go to Debakey are minorities, first-generations, and do not come from middle to upper class families. Most of these students want to have a good education at the least but can't afford to pay for private school or change districts. I guess Debakey sells itself for being a public hs that acts like a private school. The truth is, not many graduates pursue medicine, but there are a good amount. The 10 ppl chosen for the Baylor program actually have higher requirements (not 22 Mcat). I know a lot of students who chose to go to other routes. I was one of the---not-so-sure-what-the-hell-I-am-going-to-do-with-my-life type of girl. So all in all, it was not Debakey who caused me to struggle in college and struggle on the Mcat and struggle with everything. It was me--my situations, my decisions. Choose the school that fits you.

BTW Debakey HSHP was only named after Debakey for about 5 or so years. It was called HIGH SCHOOL FOR HEALTH PROFESSIONS before.
...and Debakey does not have any athletic programs 😱 I remember having a pep rally for TAAS or something.
 
meh, I was about 50th in my class of 189 and am one of only 2 people to be accepted to med school from my class (and everyone and thier mother was pre-med when starting college there)...

then again, 2 years ago, 2 of the 3 full rides at Wayne went to graduates of my school..

but I guess that's what you get with schools full of rich kids... some go on to great things, others just spend the rest of thier lives living off thier parents.
 
Thanks for your post niome.

I have no doubt that bright and capable students get picked for this program. HOWEVER, I think it's ludicrous. Last I heard the bar for these students at UH was set at 3.3/25 (the 3.2/22 cited = 😱 ). I know many of them personally, and, no, they don't just try to make this minimum. But the fact remains that those of us applying to the same medical school on a regular admissions basis are held to much higher standards. And we haven't spent our undergrads comforted by the knowledge that we will be accepted to medical school, the tenth in the nation nonetheless. Now I see nothing too horribly wrong with this if these students are able to make it through medical school and become good doctors - that's all it comes down to in the end - making good doctors. BUT the biggest problem I have with this program is precisely that these kids are recruited from high school. Sure, many people think they want to be a doctor at a very young age. And they may have already had a lot of exposure to the medical field (i.e. Debakey kids). But people change. Especially in college. And even moreso for those coming from a tiny magnet school to a college --> culture shock. These "chosen" do have the option to forego their acceptance if they decide medicine is not right for them, but many others stay in because, I mean, what else are they gonna do? They're practically guaranteed a respected, high-paying career as a physician. Who in their right mind would pass that up if they just "had nothing better to do"? So my main gripe is that I'm afraid people (more than 10 if you include other pre-acceptance programs with similar requirements, *ahemriceahem*) are getting in, every year, who have no real passion for medicine. And, honestly, that sucks for those who do have it and have to fight for the remaining seats. 👎

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