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Has anyone found the definitive ranking of public health programs? Is anyone willing to post them for the benefit of everyone? I know at least one of you paid to see the US News and World Report rankings..... :idea:
 
1. Johns Hopkins University (MD) 4.9
2. Harvard University (MA) 4.7
University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill 4.7
4. University of Washington 4.5
5. University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 4.2
6. Columbia University (NY) 3.9
7. University of California--Berkeley 3.7
University of California--Los Angeles 3.7
9. Emory University (GA) 3.6
10. University of Minnesota--Twin Cities 3.5
11. University of Pittsburgh 3.4
12. University of Texas--Houston Health Sciences Center 3.2
13. Boston University 3.1
Yale University (CT) 3.1
15. University of Alabama--Birmingham 3.0
16. Tulane University (LA) 2.9
University of Illinois--Chicago 2.9
18. St. Louis University 2.5
University of Iowa 2.5
University of Massachusetts--Amherst 2.5
University of South Carolina 2.5
 
Keep in mind that the U.S. News rankings leave out all the MPH, MS, and PhD programs that are run by schools of medicine or by other departments. Some of these programs are quite good (probably better than some of the ranked programs, depending on the area of emphasis). Depending on your academic, professional, and geographic needs/preferences, they might be worth considering.

Some of these programs I've run across include:

University of Wisconsin - Madison
http://www.pophealth.wisc.edu/
Offers MPH, MS, and PhD programs, very good faculty (some of whom defected from Johns Hopkins, Columbia, etc.), relatively small size but good funding.

Washington U. in St. Louis
http://www.biostat.wustl.edu/gems/ (for Genetic Epi)
http://epi.wustl.edu/MPE/MPEhome.htm (for Psych Epi)
Offers MS in Genetic Epidemiology, Psychiatric Epidemiology, PhD in Genetic Epi offered through Biology Dept. Genetic Epi program is very focused, 11-month program.

Brown University
http://bms.brown.edu/commhealth/dept/index.html
MPH, MS/PhD programs in Biostats & Epidemiology
Several people on this board are familiar with the programs here, as well as at

Dartmouth University
CECS
I haven't looked into this program, but I know several people on the board have applied and/or are going.

University of Pennsylvania
http://www.publichealth.med.upenn.edu/overview.html
Has MPH program that seems to be tailored to people who are interested in joint degrees with other areas (MPH/MD MPH/JD, MPH/MSN, MPH/MBA) or "mid-career professionals".

Tufts University
http://www.tufts.edu/med/gpph/index.html
Has MPH/MD and MPH/DVM programs as well as regular MPH and #1-ranked Community Health MS program.

UC Davis
http://mph.ucdavis.edu/
Mostly for MD/DVM/RN/NP/PharmD/PAs, candidates in those areas, and other professionals. 1 year.

There are many other MPH programs out there as well...

-namazu
 
Also keep in mind that the USN&WR ranking are general. There are areas of specific emphasis that may be much more highly regarded at a particular institution than those rankings might suggest. For instance, U Illinois Chicago is extremely well regarded in environmental and occupational health, but only ranks 16th in the report.

- H
 
Ditto to what FoughtFyr said...

Honestly, rankings really don't tend to matter for some fields. You can get a degree in health education from anywhere, but when you move into the realm of HEalth Services Admin., rankings really start to matter in terms of what kinds of connex a school can offer you.
 
Heal&Teach said:
Ditto to what FoughtFyr said...

Honestly, rankings really don't tend to matter for some fields. You can get a degree in health education from anywhere, but when you move into the realm of HEalth Services Admin., rankings really start to matter in terms of what kinds of connex a school can offer you.

Hihi!

Speaking of Health Services Administration, I've posted those rankings below if anyone is interested. It has its own seperate rankings from general public health, and is mixed in with healthcare MBA programs as well.

1. University of Michigan--Ann Arbor 4.4
2. University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill 4.3
3. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.2
4. Northwestern University (Kellogg) (IL) 4.1
5. University of Minnesota--Twin Cities (Carlson) 3.9
University of Washington 3.9
Virginia Commonwealth University 3.9
8. U. of California--Berkeley (Sch. of Public Health) 3.7
University of California--Berkeley (Haas) 3.7
10. University of Alabama--Birmingham 3.6
11. Johns Hopkins University (MD) 3.4
University of California--Los Angeles 3.4
University of Iowa 3.4
14. Duke University (Fuqua) (NC) 3.2
Ohio State University 3.2
16. Boston University 3.1
New York University (Wagner) 3.1
University of Missouri--Columbia 3.1
Washington University in St. Louis 3.1
20. Arizona State University 3.0
Penn State University--University Park 3.0
St. Louis University 3.0
Trinity University (TX) 3.0
U.S. Army/Baylor University (TX) 3.0
25. University of Colorado--Denver 2.9
University of Pittsburgh 2.9
27. George Washington University (DC) 2.8
Georgia State University 2.8
29. Cornell University (NY) 2.7
Rush University (IL) 2.7
University of Florida 2.7
University of Kansas 2.7
33. Temple University (PA) 2.6
Tulane University (LA) 2.6
U. of Colo.--Denver/Network for Healthcare Management 2.6
University of Southern California 2.6
37. Xavier University (OH) 2.5
 
namazu said:
Keep in mind that the U.S. News rankings leave out all the MPH, MS, and PhD programs that are run by schools of medicine or by other departments. Some of these programs are quite good (probably better than some of the ranked programs, depending on the area of emphasis). Depending on your academic, professional, and geographic needs/preferences, they might be worth considering.

Some of these programs I've run across include:

University of Wisconsin - Madison
http://www.pophealth.wisc.edu/
Offers MPH, MS, and PhD programs, very good faculty (some of whom defected from Johns Hopkins, Columbia, etc.), relatively small size but good funding.

Washington U. in St. Louis
http://www.biostat.wustl.edu/gems/ (for Genetic Epi)
http://epi.wustl.edu/MPE/MPEhome.htm (for Psych Epi)
Offers MS in Genetic Epidemiology, Psychiatric Epidemiology, PhD in Genetic Epi offered through Biology Dept. Genetic Epi program is very focused, 11-month program.

Brown University
http://bms.brown.edu/commhealth/dept/index.html
MPH, MS/PhD programs in Biostats & Epidemiology
Several people on this board are familiar with the programs here, as well as at

Dartmouth University
CECS
I haven't looked into this program, but I know several people on the board have applied and/or are going.

University of Pennsylvania
http://www.publichealth.med.upenn.edu/overview.html
Has MPH program that seems to be tailored to people who are interested in joint degrees with other areas (MPH/MD MPH/JD, MPH/MSN, MPH/MBA) or "mid-career professionals".

Tufts University
http://www.tufts.edu/med/gpph/index.html
Has MPH/MD and MPH/DVM programs as well as regular MPH and #1-ranked Community Health MS program.

UC Davis
http://mph.ucdavis.edu/
Mostly for MD/DVM/RN/NP/PharmD/PAs, candidates in those areas, and other professionals. 1 year.

There are many other MPH programs out there as well...

-namazu


why arent these ones listed/accredited??? obviously they are really really good schools and i do not doubt for a minute that anyone that attends them will get a great education. so what exactly does the accredidation prove? i am hoping to attend the university of rochester school of medicine and dentistry's MPH program. it is NOT listed as an accredited school, or a ranked school. U of R is a really good school with a great reputation (both the university as a whole and the medical school/dental school). the program takes advantage of all of the resources available to the medical students. so will my MPH mean less cuz its not listed on that website with the silly map? 😕
 
brynn7 said:
why arent these ones listed/accredited??? obviously they are really really good schools and i do not doubt for a minute that anyone that attends them will get a great education. so what exactly does the accredidation prove? i am hoping to attend the university of rochester school of medicine and dentistry's MPH program. it is NOT listed as an accredited school, or a ranked school. U of R is a really good school with a great reputation (both the university as a whole and the medical school/dental school). the program takes advantage of all of the resources available to the medical students. so will my MPH mean less cuz its not listed on that website with the silly map? 😕

US News ranks accredited Schools of Public Health. Many MPH degrees are granted by universities that do not have a school of public health but that run the MPH program out of the School of Medicine, a school of allied health professions or some other school. MPH degree programs not within Schools of Public Health can be accredited by the Council on Education in Public Health (www.ceph.org) and many of them are (and some are not so you should check against the list maintained by CEPH). Look under "Graduate Programs in Community Health/Preventive Medicine". Rochester is on that list. US News ranks the programs under "Community Health" and Rochester is tied for #2 with several other schools.
 
Hey Guys!
The Health Services Admin rankings don't include Columbia's Healthcare Mgmt program. Does anyone know if the program sucks that bad, or is it that its not ranked at all? Where does Columbia figure in this list? I know the overall publichealth school is ranked 6th, so how can I know for sure how good that department is? If I were to get my MPH in Health Mgmt from Columbia, how would it affect my job opportunities if that program isnt ranked at all? Cuz employers wouldnt have a clue about how good (or bad) it is.
Any thoughts??




LizzyM said:
US News ranks accredited Schools of Public Health. Many MPH degrees are granted by universities that do not have a school of public health but that run the MPH program out of the School of Medicine, a school of allied health professions or some other school. MPH degree programs not within Schools of Public Health can be accredited by the Council on Education in Public Health (www.ceph.org) and many of them are (and some are not so you should check against the list maintained by CEPH). Look under "Graduate Programs in Community Health/Preventive Medicine". Rochester is on that list. US News ranks the programs under "Community Health" and Rochester is tied for #2 with several other schools.
 
I really don't think employeers will go and check exactly where your school is ranked. There are however some more well regarded public health schools than others and some have a brand name tag to them. Most people that go to accredited schools tend to get decent placements after graduation. For Health Admin it might be a little different, as it has some courses from the MBA side. Apart from that the general schools in the top 10 or top 15 have good career placements. It also depends on how you network and do your internships. Thats my opinion.
 
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