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[RxPreceptor]

Cry me a river...this type of stuff is usually what you want to discuss with your academic advisor (that is when you have one); not random people on the internet who have no idea/little to no context about your true situation/circumstances. Being an adult means taking responsibility for yourself/making important/personal life decisions by yourself

 

[thumbz]

How much do you have in student loans? If you hate biology it's stupid to finish that degree - what job would you do? With an expulsion from a professional school for academic misconduct you chance of ever getting admitted to a new professional school is slim to none, even with years of reinvention.

I recommend finding a career path you like and start down it now, hoping by the time you're 30 you'll be making money again. Consider the trades, consider sales, computers, whatever. You need something to get an income and start a life, realizing pharmacy school is closed for you.

 

[Saiyo]

Oh wow, this is rough. I have the same question about loans though, important to know to help us recommend a career path for you

 

[PharmacyCat]

Oh wow, this is rough. I have the same question about loans though, important to know to help us recommend a career path for you

How much do you have in student loans? If you hate biology it's stupid to finish that degree - what job would you do? With an expulsion from a professional school for academic misconduct you chance of ever getting admitted to a new professional school is slim to none, even with years of reinvention.

I recommend finding a career path you like and start down it now, hoping by the time you're 30 you'll be making money again. Consider the trades, consider sales, computers, whatever. You need something to get an income and start a life, realizing pharmacy school is closed for you.

I am in like 58k of loans right now. If I continue my biology degree painfully down the road I’d graduate in dec 2020. I don’t have any interest in upper level bio classes it’s extremely dry and kinda difficult for me sigh. Also, I don’t have any interest in lab and research. So if I had a bachelors I would just have it to have a degree for the sake of my parents even though biology is kinda pointless.

 

[mentos]

58k is nothing, if you finished with pharmacy school in 3 years chances are you'd have 200k with no job (same as now) so consider this a blessing in disguise. You can get a regular office job, be a realtor, be a plumber/electrician/carpenter. I'm getting new floors installed in my house and I have to pay a plumber $300 to remove a toilet and put it back after the floors are installed cause I don't know how, for a plumber this is an easy job and easy money.

The trades are making bank right now, some of them don't even have time to tell you no when they turn down a job cause they're too busy counting money. I know a carpenter who gave someone a "I don't want to do it" price of $25k for a gazebo. He said it cost maybe $5k but the customer said yes, so he banked $20k on a side job. The economy is great right now and people have cash to spend (unless you're in pharmacy).

 

[thumbz]

58k is nothing, if you finished with pharmacy school in 3 years chances are you'd have 200k with no job (same as now) so consider this a blessing in disguise. You can get a regular office job, be a realtor, be a plumber/electrician/carpenter. I'm getting new floors installed in my house and I have to pay a plumber $300 to remove a toilet and put it back after the floors are installed cause I don't know how, for a plumber this is an easy job and easy money.

The trades are making bank right now, some of them don't even have time to tell you no when they turn down a job cause they're too busy counting money. I know a carpenter who gave someone a "I don't want to do it" price of $25k for a gazebo. He said it cost maybe $5k but the customer said yes, so he banked $20k on a side job. That's how good the economy is right now (unless you're in pharmacy).

Oh man/lady, just youtube the toilet thing. The hardest part is the wax ring, and now you can get something called a "Perfect Seal" for $10 at home depot that removes all the guess work. 10 minutes on youtube and 30 minutes of your life and you'll save $300.

He's exactly right though. I learned to tile after realizing people charge $150/hr for labor to tile. It's super easy to do, and incredibly in demand. Anything like that is your best bet at a bright future.

 

[PharmacyCat]

Oh man/lady, just youtube the toilet thing. The hardest part is the wax ring, and now you can get something called a "Perfect Seal" for $10 at home depot that removes all the guess work. 10 minutes on youtube and 30 minutes of your life and you'll save $300.

He's exactly right though. I learned to tile after realizing people charge $150/hr for labor to tile. It's super easy to do, and incredibly in demand. Anything like that is your best bet at a bright future.

I am a female but I don’t really wanna do carpentry or plumbing :/

 

[rxkrafted]

I am a female but I don’t really wanna do carpentry or plumbing :/

What are you interested in then princess? You need to go pursue something you are interested in and stay away from medical professions because you don't even have an interest in biology anyways. Not sure what kind of advice you were looking for here but you need to just go out and figure out what you have an interest in first.

 

[PharmtoCS]

Go to a coding bootcamp?

Be glad that you’re only $58k and not $200k+ in debt with a devalued PharmD degree.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

Last year I finally got into pharmacy school of Fall 2018 and I was overwhelmed with joy after years of retaking pre-requisite classes. I was a P1 and near the end of the semester during finals, a friend and I got into an argument which caused a huge amount of stress distracting me. It was really my fault for letting my emotions get the best of me. I ended up failing Biochemistry and Pharmaceutics not being able to focus during finals. Along with immunology, I made a stupid mistake and was thinking irrationally, the professor reported, gave me a 0 for the final and failed me for the whole course. I ended up getting charged with academic misconduct in which I won't get into that and one of the dean's in charge of my case expelled me from the program. Since I failed 3 courses out of 10 and I mentioned about my depression and anxiety, the committee wasn't having it and ultimately ended up dismissing me from the program and said it didn't seem like pharmacy was for me. I tried to appeal because I really wanted to stay in the program but it was unsuccessful. I ended up taking a break for a semester since I was dismissed and I feel like nothing but a failure. I'm 26 years old and I only have a 2 year AS in biology from community college. I feel like I have nothing to show for or any other accomplishments. I ended up enrolling in a state university to pursue finishing my bachelors in Biology since its the quickest thing to do right now but I absolutely have no interest in biology itself or the drive/motivation to complete school since I've gotten kicked out of pharmacy school. I really do miss pharmacy school and I keep blaming myself for my mistakes in the past. I'm not really sure what I should do, have I really messed up everything? I am also in 58k loans right now for those asking.

Easy solution: Find a job as a pharmacy tech. They are in demand right now.

 

[deleted480308]

Sooo you cheated on an exam?

 

[zona2016]

First, stop going to school. Sit down and think clearly what happened that lead you to be dismissed. Be critical and accept your mistakes.
Second, take vocational aptitude tests, think on what you want to do and how to get there. There are a million jobs out there especially in this economy and a million ways to get there. It sucks having debt and not having something to show for it (personal experience) but its not the end of the world.

However, racking up a degree that you don't want is self-flagellating for no reason.

At the end of the day, just self care and re evaluate your options and start the process.

 

[PharmacyCat]

Sooo you cheated on an exam?

Yeah, long story short. I changed a few of my answers while unmonitored in the disability room on the way to submit to my professor and they caught it on the time stamp. So, they gave me a 0 and expelled me from the program. It was a double jeopardy. I obviously have learned from my mistake and regret doing so.

 

[PharmacyCat]

First, stop going to school. Sit down and think clearly what happened that lead you to be dismissed. Be critical and accept your mistakes.
Second, take vocational aptitude tests, think on what you want to do and how to get there. There are a million jobs out there especially in this economy and a million ways to get there. It sucks having debt and not having something to show for it (personal experience) but its not the end of the world.

However, racking up a degree that you don't want is self-flagellating for no reason.

At the end of the day, just self care and re evaluate your options and start the process.

I wanted to take a longer break from school but my whole family kept pressuring and yelling at me to finish a degree in school. I knew I would feel bad if I didn’t finish anything at least so I went from full time to half time in school right now. I’m obviously still shaken about what happen in pharmacy school and I’m trying to get past the point of accepting my mistake.

 

[Angus Avagadro]

You can get a CDL and drive a truck. Lots of lady truckers, can make 6 figures after a few years. Honest work, can pay bills. Lots of time alone to sort out your life on the road. I thinks it's like 6 weeks training then you are in the road with a mentor. Or, consider a masters program or another major and finish. If you lapse school, the loans come due. Would not do Biology, a useless degree unless you go to professional school or teach, requiring further education,/ loans. First, get your mental and emotional life in order with some counseling/psychiatric treatment.

 

[mentos]

I am a female but I don’t really wanna do carpentry or plumbing :/

Can you paint? I paid $3,000 for an interior paint job in a small house, only about 800 square feet. Not because we weren't capable, but because we were in a rush to sell the house and we both worked full-time and had a baby.

 

[zona2016]

I wanted to take a longer break from school but my whole family kept pressuring and yelling at me to finish a degree in school. I knew I would feel bad if I didn’t finish anything at least so I went from full time to half time in school right now. I’m obviously still shaken about what happen in pharmacy school and I’m trying to get past the point of accepting my mistake.

Look, you need to stand up for yourself if family pressure is an issue. Get a job and move out if necessary. Your family does not decide your future, YOU DO. If you have no idea what to do if the goal you had for many years disappeared its-ok to wait. If you are staying part time in school just because its the easiest option, take an elective in something different or go to a community college to re-invent yourself at the lowest cost possible. In my opinion, school is the worst place to be since they will always promote more schooling and sometimes you just need to start working somewhere. What you did was wrong and that will sting but it is not the end of the world.

 

[Reirrac]

Degrees are worthless if it doesn't directly lead to a decent job, and it does not guarantee a comfortable happy life either.
Fam has to realize that expectation is way outdated. I suggest taking a year off school to figure things out and reexamine your priorities.

 

[Saiyo]

Is health informatics still a good field? I used to know quite a few biology majors who got certifications in health IT and were able to do (I assume) quite well in that field.

I think the trades etc are ok recommendations for people out of high school or who like physical work, but probably not my first recommendation

 

[Lubeckd]

bioinformatics or stem cells.
you dodged a pharmacy bullet

 

[Wickett]

You have no interest in biology and find upper level undergraduate classes difficult, but you went into pharmacy? Mmmk. If you're sociable (and being attractive helps) and a hard worker, I recommend going into real estate. You can be licensed and working in less than a year. Academics dont seem to be your path, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[910781]

I would go to any community college's website and read their areas of study. Not saying you should go back to your community school, but find a list of areas that they offer and see what interests you.

While pharmacist used to be a "good paying job," (probably not anymore due to saturation) having a good-paying job does not necessarily mean your quality of life would be good as well. Just remember there are many ways to live.

 

[PharmacyCat]

You have no interest in biology and find upper level undergraduate classes difficult, but you went into pharmacy? Mmmk. If you're sociable (and being attractive helps) and a hard worker, I recommend going into real estate. You can be licensed and working in less than a year. Academics dont seem to be your path, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yeah pharmacy courses and even the pre-requisites was a bit more interesting to me with the exception of biochemistry. I thought cell bio and genetics was difficult. Only bio I probably really liked was microbiology and anatomy. But after all this I’m starting to think school unfortunately isn’t for me either.

 

[sakigt]

As a fellow female..... stop listening to everyone else. I did everything right and have been rewarded with an amazing family and career with barely any financial gain to show for it. Half of my paycheck went to daycare and the other half went to student loans. You cannot "have it all" and "do anything you want." You need to pick and choose. Stop borrowing money to make your family happy....word of advice, they will never be happy with you.

 

[JustFillIt]

You have no interest in biology and find upper level undergraduate classes difficult, but you went into pharmacy? Mmmk. If you're sociable (and being attractive helps) and a hard worker, I recommend going into real estate. You can be licensed and working in less than a year. Academics dont seem to be your path, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I’m so hot... I should have gone into real estate..

 

[TerryTerry]

God loves you

 

[redfish955]

Look up the big companies in the city you want to live. Look up the entry level jobs they offer. Pick one out. Pursue that job. Your going to be working for like 40 years so don't worry about spending an extra year or two in school.

 

[gwarm01]

Stay out of the trap that is higher education unless the degree you are pursuing will directly lead to a job. Don't complete your biology degree if you aren't interested in that field. You will end up in even more debt and miserable.

Your family cannot control your life. It might be difficult, but you have to stand up for yourself and make your own decisions. Don't let them force you down a path you will regret for the rest of your life.

You should really take a moment and pause. I wouldn't make any big decisions when still trying to cope from a traumatic event, which I imagine your dismissal was. Ask yourself what are your goals in life, both long term and near. Are you looking for a career, a family, maybe just a relaxing life on the beach? Think hard about what you really want, then try to find a way to get it. There are so many opportunities out there that you've probably never considered or even realize exist.

If it's any consolation, plenty of pharmacists would love to get out of the field with only 58k in debt. You may have inadvertently set yourself on a much better path, but only if you make the right choices.

 

[JustFillIt]

God loves you

Sometimes that’s as good as it gets right?

 

[Goro]

Last year I finally got into pharmacy school of Fall 2018 and I was overwhelmed with joy after years of retaking pre-requisite classes. I was a P1 and near the end of the semester during finals, a friend and I got into an argument which caused a huge amount of stress distracting me. It was really my fault for letting my emotions get the best of me. I ended up failing Biochemistry and Pharmaceutics not being able to focus during finals. Along with immunology, I made a stupid mistake and was thinking irrationally, the professor reported, gave me a 0 for the final and failed me for the whole course. I ended up getting charged with academic misconduct in which I won't get into that and one of the dean's in charge of my case expelled me from the program. Since I failed 3 courses out of 10 and I mentioned about my depression and anxiety, the committee wasn't having it and ultimately ended up dismissing me from the program and said it didn't seem like pharmacy was for me. I tried to appeal because I really wanted to stay in the program but it was unsuccessful. I ended up taking a break for a semester since I was dismissed and I feel like nothing but a failure. I'm 26 years old and I only have a 2 year AS in biology from community college. I feel like I have nothing to show for or any other accomplishments. I ended up enrolling in a state university to pursue finishing my bachelors in Biology since its the quickest thing to do right now but I absolutely have no interest in biology itself or the drive/motivation to complete school since I've gotten kicked out of pharmacy school. I really do miss pharmacy school and I keep blaming myself for my mistakes in the past. I'm not really sure what I should do, have I really messed up everything? I am also in 58k loans right now for those asking.

1) see to your mental health needs. A fight with a friend shouldn't have caused such a catastrophic breakdown.
2) go to your school's career counseling center for job advice.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Last year I finally got into pharmacy school of Fall 2018 and I was overwhelmed with joy after years of retaking pre-requisite classes. I was a P1 and near the end of the semester during finals, a friend and I got into an argument which caused a huge amount of stress distracting me. It was really my fault for letting my emotions get the best of me. I ended up failing Biochemistry and Pharmaceutics not being able to focus during finals. Along with immunology, I made a stupid mistake and was thinking irrationally, the professor reported, gave me a 0 for the final and failed me for the whole course. I ended up getting charged with academic misconduct in which I won't get into that and one of the dean's in charge of my case expelled me from the program. Since I failed 3 courses out of 10 and I mentioned about my depression and anxiety, the committee wasn't having it and ultimately ended up dismissing me from the program and said it didn't seem like pharmacy was for me. I tried to appeal because I really wanted to stay in the program but it was unsuccessful. I ended up taking a break for a semester since I was dismissed and I feel like nothing but a failure. I'm 26 years old and I only have a 2 year AS in biology from community college. I feel like I have nothing to show for or any other accomplishments. I ended up enrolling in a state university to pursue finishing my bachelors in Biology since its the quickest thing to do right now but I absolutely have no interest in biology itself or the drive/motivation to complete school since I've gotten kicked out of pharmacy school. I really do miss pharmacy school and I keep blaming myself for my mistakes in the past. I'm not really sure what I should do, have I really messed up everything? I am also in 58k loans right now for those asking.

What advice do you want?
The system which allows bottom of the barrel students to graduate with 2.0s weeded you out.

What do you expect to hear?

 

[El Trombopag]

At some point ‘higher education’ became ‘13th grade’.

Find your ambition even if means not being in school for a bit, volunteer, get exposure to a few different things. Before pursuing anything else, sit down on your own free time and do the math. Being young is priceless in this regard, but the clock is ticking (as with us all).

 

[Goro]

Jeeze, y'all are savage.

 

[nyastlc]

58k is nothing, if you finished with pharmacy school in 3 years chances are you'd have 200k with no job (same as now) so consider this a blessing in disguise. You can get a regular office job, be a realtor, be a plumber/electrician/carpenter. I'm getting new floors installed in my house and I have to pay a plumber $300 to remove a toilet and put it back after the floors are installed cause I don't know how, for a plumber this is an easy job and easy money.

The trades are making bank right now, some of them don't even have time to tell you no when they turn down a job cause they're too busy counting money. I know a carpenter who gave someone a "I don't want to do it" price of $25k for a gazebo. He said it cost maybe $5k but the customer said yes, so he banked $20k on a side job. The economy is great right now and people have cash to spend (unless you're in pharmacy).

I agree... these the job market is tight as it is TODAY, so just imagine what it would be like in a couple of year after you graduate.... think about it, before you graduate their with be thousands of new grads looking for jobs, EACH YEAR. And most likely you will probably need to do some sort of fellowship/residency to stand out, by the time you graduate in order to get a job (which means and additional 2 years of studying). And on average you will probably be $150-200k in debt.

 

[Chrish]

Getting expelled from pharmacy school is not necessarily the worst thing that can happen to anyone these days. You should be happy you have $58k debt instead of $200k and you still might not have a job.

 

[andalusite_angles]

I tried to put myself in your shoes, so some routes to consider:
-nanny: sign up on something like care dot com (I hired my nanny through that site roughly ten years ago). It’s a fast route to money in your pocket and can come with making future career connections. If you can cook, add that to your resumé, doesn’t have to be elaborate meals, Classico spaghetti from a jar, Italian sausage, and a box of noodles with a bag of salad - when you’ve been at work for 14 hours and your spouse is useless, the last thing you want to do is cook a meal when you’ve still got to wash bottles and laundry only to get up at 0200 with the baby and then back up again at 0400 for work. People pay good money for a nanny who can cook, it’s barely more expensive than daycare these days.
-substitute teacher: does it pay much? No. Will it put money in your pocket while you figure out what to do with your life? Yes. Same thing with tutoring.
-tiling: YouTube or an apprenticeship. Like others have said, skilled labor makes bank these days. My aunt is building a house, they signed the contract last October and it still isn’t finished, not enough skilled workers to keep up with demand. That, and her contractor is incompetent. As you get better at it, market yourself to more upscale clientele with highly detailed work.
-cosmetology: lots of options. If you’re good at hair or makeup or applying individual falsies, there’s a lot of potential, especially once you are well established and have your own salon - you can also sell product, clothes, jewelry etc when you’re the owner. Start at the bottom as an apprentice in a high end salon washing hair and learn tips from the experts along the way. I worked at a salon and day spa when I was 20 and hated it, but that was more because the owner was wretched. I would have stuck it out had I not been accepted into nursing school - one of the stylists I worked with makes six figures these days. And she still cuts my hair.
-yoga or barre or Pilates fitness instructor: I used to pay a lot of money for barre and Buti yoga. Once you have your own place, you can sell yoga clothes, yoga mats, cute little barre socks with sparkles on them, water bottles, juice bar or smoothie items after class, aromatherapy candles and oils or new agey stuff like smudge sticks...your place
-aesthetician: people pay lots of money for their facials and wax jobs
-nail tech: self explanatory. I love it when a nail salon serves wine and champagne.
-massage therapy: in additional to Swedish, place a few hot stones on someone’s back or an “aromatherapy tour” for an easy extra $20
-do you play an instrument like the piano, flute, or violin? Market yourself to the wedding circuit. If you like the wedding scene, look into flowers or catering and set yourself up for a future business. If you’re in a college town, the sorority girls do candlelight ceremonies when they get engaged - that needs pretty flowers.
-Do you have a green thumb? Organic gardening. Get heirloom seeds life things like black tomatoes, white cucumbers, pink blueberries and sell them at your local grocery stores and farmers markets. I have several bee farmers in the family. My family member who is an engineer does it as a side hobby and made $25K off of it last year (and that’s with losing half of his hives) and paid off the upfront equipment expenses years ago.
-I love the suggestion of truck driving. Is it a typical career for a young woman? No. Who cares? It’s great money and it would definitely give you time to figure out what you want to do with your life while paying off your school loans. That’s a win.
-sewing - learn how to alter hemlines, then move onto making little girls’ majorette uniforms and cheerleading outfits, altering wedding dresses, etc. you could sew while watching the kids you nanny and dinner cooks in the instant pot.

Let’s be real, continuing to rake up school loan debt to make your parents’ egos happy at cocktail parties or in Sunday School is one of the worst financial decisions you could possibly make for yourself. At least you can bankrupt credit card debt or a failed business.

 

[mentos]

I tried to put myself in your shoes, so some routes to consider:
-nanny: sign up on something like care dot com (I hired my nanny through that site roughly ten years ago). It’s a fast route to money in your pocket and can come with making future career connections. If you can cook, add that to your resumé, doesn’t have to be elaborate meals, Classico spaghetti from a jar, Italian sausage, and a box of noodles with a bag of salad - when you’ve been at work for 14 hours and your spouse is useless, the last thing you want to do is cook a meal when you’ve still got to wash bottles and laundry only to get up at 0200 with the baby and then back up again at 0400 for work. People pay good money for a nanny who can cook, it’s barely more expensive than daycare these days.
-substitute teacher: does it pay much? No. Will it put money in your pocket while you figure out what to do with your life? Yes. Same thing with tutoring.
-tiling: YouTube or an apprenticeship. Like others have said, skilled labor makes bank these days. My aunt is building a house, they signed the contract last October and it still isn’t finished, not enough skilled workers to keep up with demand. That, and her contractor is incompetent. As you get better at it, market yourself to more upscale clientele with highly detailed work.
-cosmetology: lots of options. If you’re good at hair or makeup or applying individual falsies, there’s a lot of potential, especially once you are well established and have your own salon - you can also sell product, clothes, jewelry etc when you’re the owner. Start at the bottom as an apprentice in a high end salon washing hair and learn tips from the experts along the way. I worked at a salon and day spa when I was 20 and hated it, but that was more because the owner was wretched. I would have stuck it out had I not been accepted into nursing school - one of the stylists I worked with makes six figures these days. And she still cuts my hair.
-yoga or barre or Pilates fitness instructor: I used to pay a lot of money for barre and Buti yoga. Once you have your own place, you can sell yoga clothes, yoga mats, cute little barre socks with sparkles on them, water bottles, juice bar or smoothie items after class, aromatherapy candles and oils or new agey stuff like smudge sticks...your place
-aesthetician: people pay lots of money for their facials and wax jobs
-nail tech: self explanatory. I love it when a nail salon serves wine and champagne.
-massage therapy: in additional to Swedish, place a few hot stones on someone’s back or an “aromatherapy tour” for an easy extra $20
-do you play an instrument like the piano, flute, or violin? Market yourself to the wedding circuit. If you like the wedding scene, look into flowers or catering and set yourself up for a future business. If you’re in a college town, the sorority girls do candlelight ceremonies when they get engaged - that needs pretty flowers.
-Do you have a green thumb? Organic gardening. Get heirloom seeds life things like black tomatoes, white cucumbers, pink blueberries and sell them at your local grocery stores and farmers markets. I have several bee farmers in the family. My family member who is an engineer does it as a side hobby and made $25K off of it last year (and that’s with losing half of his hives) and paid off the upfront equipment expenses years ago.
-I love the suggestion of truck driving. Is it a typical career for a young woman? No. Who cares? It’s great money and it would definitely give you time to figure out what you want to do with your life while paying off your school loans. That’s a win.
-sewing - learn how to alter hemlines, then move onto making little girls’ majorette uniforms and cheerleading outfits, altering wedding dresses, etc. you could sew while watching the kids you nanny and dinner cooks in the instant pot.

Let’s be real, continuing to rake up school loan debt to make your parents’ egos happy at cocktail parties or in Sunday School is one of the worst financial decisions you could possibly make for yourself. At least you can bankrupt credit card debt or a failed business.

Great suggestions. I can't believe I forgot about nannying. We are fortunate that we found our nanny for only $15/hr cash. We interviewed a bunch from care.com and many were asking for $20-$25/hr cash with paid sick and vacation days! They even told us they found a position before we even turned them down! Daycares fill up fast so working parents have no choice. $25/hr cash is basically what a new grad pharmacist takes home after taxes and school loans. Usually the parents will have multiple kids which means the nanny gets paid more. Many nannies even bring their own kids to work. Imagine taking home $25/hr cash while reporting zero income and getting free groceries, free health care and paying little to no taxes?

 

[VictorOfHungerGames]

I am in like 58k of loans right now. If I continue my biology degree painfully down the road I’d graduate in dec 2020. I don’t have any interest in upper level bio classes it’s extremely dry and kinda difficult for me sigh. Also, I don’t have any interest in lab and research. So if I had a bachelors I would just have it to have a degree for the sake of my parents even though biology is kinda pointless.

I think your former dean was right in that pharmacy isnt for you. If you have no motivation in learning the basic science which pharmaceutical science is built on, how do you plan on surviving classes like cardio and ID? If you failed biochem in pharmacy school, ID will murder you. If you go down this road, if you somehow become a pharmacist, youre gonna hate your life and hence not going to be a good pharmacist.

Maybe this would be a good time for you to reflect on your life and find what you truly enjoy? Instead of trying to please other.

 

[PharmacyCat]

I think your former dean was right in that pharmacy isnt for you. If you have no motivation in learning the basic science which pharmaceutical science is built on, how do you plan on surviving classes like cardio and ID? If you failed biochem in pharmacy school, ID will murder you. If you go down this road, if you somehow become a pharmacist, youre gonna hate your life and hence not going to be a good pharmacist.

Maybe this would be a good time for you to reflect on your life and find what you truly enjoy? Instead of trying to please other.

I’m sorry maybe you guys don’t understand that I made a huge mistake. Maybe I just wasn’t interested in my studies because I truly didn’t want to major in biology.


The deans will tell you pharmacy isn’t for you because of failing classes. Biochemistry was the only course I really was going to fail but I let my emotions and everyone bother me. I didn’t know what I wanted to do because pharmacy is what I had planned for since forever. But now I feel like I no longer have any goals or aspirations and it makes it hard to even finish school without direction since I have no chance to get back in slim to none. I didn’t know what I had interest or passion in and maybe i really need to consult a therapist or advisor instead of asking people online.

 

[Lubeckd]

I’m sorry maybe you guys don’t understand that I made a huge mistake. Maybe I just wasn’t interested in my studies because I truly didn’t want to major in biology.


The deans will tell you pharmacy isn’t for you because of failing classes. Biochemistry was the only course I really was going to fail but I let my emotions and everyone bother me. I didn’t know what I wanted to do because pharmacy is what I had planned for since forever. But now I feel like I no longer have any goals or aspirations and it makes it hard to even finish school without direction since I have no chance to get back in slim to none. I didn’t know what I had interest or passion in and maybe i really need to consult a therapist or advisor instead of asking people online.

You are lost. You need to find your passion. Life is about goals. You seem like you don't know the next stage right

 

[VictorOfHungerGames]

I’m sorry maybe you guys don’t understand that I made a huge mistake. Maybe I just wasn’t interested in my studies because I truly didn’t want to major in biology.


The deans will tell you pharmacy isn’t for you because of failing classes. Biochemistry was the only course I really was going to fail but I let my emotions and everyone bother me. I didn’t know what I wanted to do because pharmacy is what I had planned for since forever. But now I feel like I no longer have any goals or aspirations and it makes it hard to even finish school without direction since I have no chance to get back in slim to none. I didn’t know what I had interest or passion in and maybe i really need to consult a therapist or advisor instead of asking people online.

No, your dean said pharmacy isnt for you because of the stress you will have to face years to come and the fact that you wont be able to handle it. And based on what youve said so far, it unequivocally confirms that and i would 100% agree with your dean.

Professional school is about time management and self control. So is being a pharmacist. I went through a divorce and family turmoil during pharmacy school yet i still managed to pass all my classes if not aced them. No matter what youre dealing with in life, remember that youre not the only one whos going through a difficult time.

 

[BidingMyTime]

The deans will tell you pharmacy isn’t for you because of failing classes. Biochemistry was the only course I really was going to fail but I let my emotions and everyone bother me. I didn’t know what I wanted to do because pharmacy is what I had planned for since forever. But now I feel like I no longer have any goals or aspirations and it makes it hard to even finish school without direction since I have no chance to get back in slim to none. I didn’t know what I had interest or passion in and maybe i really need to consult a therapist or advisor instead of asking people online.

I don't think any school will kick you out for failing classes the first semester, probation and probably a semester off yes, but dismissal no. You were expelled for cheating, not because of failing classes. Did your school (or your previous one) not give you a big lecture about academic dishonesty and how it is zero tolerance? This is even more so in professional schools, because you will be dealing with peoples lives.....as the school sees it, if you are willing to cheat on a test, then maybe you would be willing to cover up a major error or do other harm to a patient.

People are being blunt with their answers here, because the reality is, pharmacy schools are literally accepting anyone these days, and many of these people are not qualified to do the pharmacy program. Struggling so much with grades your first semester is a very bad sign, because it really does only get harder. What was your GPA for you AA, and your grades in your prerequisites? I'm guessing they were less then stellar (to be prepared for pharmacy school you need all A's & B's, and mostly A's) It really is better to be dismissed now, then to be dismissed in your 3rd year (as other posters here have had happen to them.)

As for your family pressuring you to go back to school, I'm guessing they told you to either get a job or go back to school (you are 26, you can't expect to just take a semester off and freeload off your parents, and it sounds like you wanted to freeload even more than that?)

Also, I think the idea of "finding your passion" is overrated. Many people's "passions" they actually aren't very good at, or the passions won't bring in an income. First, you need to figure out what you are actually good at, and from there you can look at different jobs that would utilize those skills and find one that is interesting to. I also think the suggestion Redfish gave you to look at big companies in the area where you want to live is an excellent idea, and see what kind of job you could get at those companies (or what kind of degrees are they looking for.)

 

[VictorOfHungerGames]

I don't think any school will kick you out for failing classes the first semester, probation and probably a semester off yes, but dismissal no. You were expelled for cheating, not because of failing classes. Did your school (or your previous one) not give you a big lecture about academic dishonesty and how it is zero tolerance? This is even more so in professional schools, because you will be dealing with peoples lives.....as the school sees it, if you are willing to cheat on a test, then maybe you would be willing to cover up a major error or do other harm to a patient.

People are being blunt with their answers here, because the reality is, pharmacy schools are literally accepting anyone these days, and many of these people are not qualified to do the pharmacy program. Struggling so much with grades your first semester is a very bad sign, because it really does only get harder. What was your GPA for you AA, and your grades in your prerequisites? I'm guessing they were less then stellar (to be prepared for pharmacy school you need all A's & B's, and mostly A's) It really is better to be dismissed now, then to be dismissed in your 3rd year (as other posters here have had happen to them.)

As for your family pressuring you to go back to school, I'm guessing they told you to either get a job or go back to school (you are 26, you can't expect to just take a semester off and freeload off your parents, and it sounds like you wanted to freeload even more than that?)

Also, I think the idea of "finding your passion" is overrated. Many people's "passions" they actually aren't very good at, or the passions won't bring in an income. First, you need to figure out what you are actually good at, and from there you can look at different jobs that would utilize those skills and find one that is interesting to. I also think the suggestion Redfish gave you to look at big companies in the area where you want to live is an excellent idea, and see what kind of job you could get at those companies (or what kind of degrees are they looking for.)

I completely forgot to mention the cheating part. I agree. If cheating was a factor, this person has no place in medical profession.

 

[deleted859689]

Starbucks store manager. Uber driver. Truck driver. If you want to stay in the sciences pathology technicians make around 20/hr which is pretty decent for the amount of work you have to put in. Next time, don’t cheat. You know it’s wrong, even if you were stressed.

 

[TerryTerry]

Sometimes that’s as good as it gets right?

The OP now has opportunity of having less debt and switching to better profession.
Not everybody enrolling in current pharmacy schools gets such god sent opportunity. Most of them are trapped within their own webs.

 

[Saiyo]

So I think the responses on here are a bit harsh. Cheating is an incredibly stupid decision, which the OP already understands. We don't need to kick her while shes down and tell her that she has no place in the medical profession, because come on, everyone makes mistakes. Stuff happens. Even if you do everything right you can still fail out P3 year or have a preceptor on rotations who is hell bent on failing you. Unfortunately academia is not as forgiving, so the op really needs to think about her next path and consider what doors are still open.

For better or for worse, pharmacy and other 4 year professional degrees may be closed to the OP. The responses to be a plumber, nanny, truck driver?? are imo alittle patronizing, even if they are theoretically well-paying jobs. Seriously, if being a nanny is so great then YOU drop out and do that.

My recommendation, besides health IT, is for OP to look into dental hygienist, xray-tech, or nursing. These are at least in the health field and seem to pair well with OPs schooling and interests. No idea what the job market for those professions are though, so definitely do the research first.

 

[gwarm01]

Jeeze, y'all are savage.

Hey, I at least tried to give thoughtful, heartfelt advice 🙂

The poster comes off as a little immature and irresponsible. That doesn't mean they are a bad person, or that they can't improve, but it is time to hear some hard truths and make some smart choices. Some people can reflect and grow, others deflect and implode.

 

[PharmacyCat]

I don't think any school will kick you out for failing classes the first semester, probation and probably a semester off yes, but dismissal no. You were expelled for cheating, not because of failing classes. Did your school (or your previous one) not give you a big lecture about academic dishonesty and how it is zero tolerance? This is even more so in professional schools, because you will be dealing with peoples lives.....as the school sees it, if you are willing to cheat on a test, then maybe you would be willing to cover up a major error or do other harm to a patient.

People are being blunt with their answers here, because the reality is, pharmacy schools are literally accepting anyone these days, and many of these people are not qualified to do the pharmacy program. Struggling so much with grades your first semester is a very bad sign, because it really does only get harder. What was your GPA for you AA, and your grades in your prerequisites? I'm guessing they were less then stellar (to be prepared for pharmacy school you need all A's & B's, and mostly A's) It really is better to be dismissed now, then to be dismissed in your 3rd year (as other posters here have had happen to them.)

As for your family pressuring you to go back to school, I'm guessing they told you to either get a job or go back to school (you are 26, you can't expect to just take a semester off and freeload off your parents, and it sounds like you wanted to freeload even more than that?)

Also, I think the idea of "finding your passion" is overrated. Many people's "passions" they actually aren't very good at, or the passions won't bring in an income. First, you need to figure out what you are actually good at, and from there you can look at different jobs that would utilize those skills and find one that is interesting to. I also think the suggestion Redfish gave you to look at big companies in the area where you want to live is an excellent idea, and see what kind of job you could get at those companies (or what kind of degrees are they looking for.)

I was dismissed for failing classes, yes. The separate case for cheating lead to expulsion. I wanted to work because I wasn’t in the right mindset for school yet with no direction. Of course I don’t want to freeload off my parents if anything I wanted to move on with my own life, work and move out instead of being in a toxic environment.

 

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I was dismissed for failing classes, yes. The separate case for cheating lead to expulsion. I wanted to work because I wasn’t in the right mindset for school yet with no direction. Of course I don’t want to freeload off my parents if anything I wanted to move on with my own life, work and move out instead of being in a toxic environment.

What do you think is the difference between dismissal and expulsion?