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[gostudy]

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Wow...pre-meds the days. I didn't even know something like "shadowing hours" existed.

 

[xffan624]

Average matriculation age. Most of the school's I've looked at in the north sit at 24-25 and in Texas it's still 22, to give an example.

One state does not make a region. Especially when that state has a very different admissions environment from the rest of the region (i.e. extremely heavy IS bias and separate application process). Not every school has it listed, but from the ones I could find--Emory has a listed average age of 27. Duke was 24. ECU is 24. Tulane is 24. UAB is 24. VCU is 24.5 years.

 

[Lucca]

One state does not make a region. Especially when that state has a very different admissions environment from the rest of the region (i.e. extremely heavy IS bias and separate application process). Not every school has it listed, but from the ones I could find--Emory has a listed average age of 27. Duke was 24. ECU is 24. Tulane is 24. UAB is 24.

Fair enough. Idk how true the original claim was, I was just offering an explanation. Texas is a whole region though. The region of Texas.

 

[xffan624]

Fair enough. Idk how true the original claim was, I was just offering an explanation. Texas is a whole region though. The region of Texas.

You said the South, which includes more than Texas. Some southerners wouldn't even include Texas in our region to begin with, but not gonna start that argument.

 

[ridethecliche]

Wow...pre-meds the days. I didn't even know something like "shadowing hours" existed.

Wat?

 

[gostudy]

One state does not make a region. Especially when that state has a very different admissions environment from the rest of the region (i.e. extremely heavy IS bias and separate application process). Not every school has it listed, but from the ones I could find--Emory has a listed average age of 27. Duke was 24. ECU is 24. Tulane is 24. UAB is 24. VCU is 24.5 years.

But these are averages meaning the data is mostly useless without knowing the true distribution of ages and class size. For example, take Emory. Is it that they have a bunch of 26, 27, and 28 year olds filling their class or do they have a bunch of 22, 23, and 24 year olds with a handful of students in their late 30s? Big difference. And for class size, 5 students who are in their late 30s are going to upwardly skew a small class more than a large class. Median or mode would give you a better idea of the age of the "average" student than the mean.

 

[NickNaylor]

But these are averages meaning the data is mostly useless without knowing the true distribution of ages and class size. For example, take Emory. Is it that they have a bunch of 26, 27, and 28 year olds filling their class or do they have a bunch of 22, 23, and 24 year olds with a handful of students in their late 30s? Big difference. And for class size, 5 students who are in their late 30s are going to upwardly skew a small class more than a large class. Median or mode would give you a better idea of the age of the "average" student than the mean.

I believe the MSAR reports this data in terms of 10th and 90th percentiles, which would provide the information you're talking about.

 

[xffan624]

But these are averages meaning the data is mostly useless without knowing the true distribution of ages and class size. For example, take Emory. Is it that they have a bunch of 26, 27, and 28 year olds filling their class or do they have a bunch of 22, 23, and 24 year olds with a handful of students in their late 30s? Big difference. And for class size, 5 students who are in their late 30s are going to upwardly skew a small class more than a large class. Median or mode would give you a better idea of the age of the "average" student than the mean.

I agree. A median is a much better measure of the age distribution, but schools did not provide this on their websites (one did provide a chart that gave a better idea of the distribution and didn't give an average). If someone else has access to this data, then I would be interested to know if there is a large disparity between the two data points. Regardless, in the absence of better data, Lucca's assertion that southern medical schools have less non-trads than northern ones with the exception of the state of Texas (for which he also used an average as comparison), appears to be unsupported.

 

[NeuResurgens]

No, they aren't. Many just don't have the breadth of experience that many non-trads do. Thus, they may be less competitive.

 

[LizzyM]

Look at the data!
https://www.aamc.org/download/321468/data/factstable6.pdf

 

[Make Or Break]

Look at the data!
https://www.aamc.org/download/321468/data/factstable6.pdf

When are you considered to have officially matriculated? When you receive your acceptance letter and say yes or at orientation?

 

[Beargryllz]

Traditional applicants make up your class. So the answer is no, they are not discriminated against

 

[NickNaylor]

When are you considered to have officially matriculated? When you receive your acceptance letter and say yes or at orientation?

Students are considered "matriculated" when they begin official academic activities at an institution. Usually that's orientation.

 

[Make Or Break]

Students are considered "matriculated" when they begin official academic activities at an institution. Usually that's orientation.

Cool. Thanks for the info!

 

[gyngyn]

When are you considered to have officially matriculated? When you receive your acceptance letter and say yes or at orientation?

The first day you show up for orientation.

 

[xffan624]

AAMC has 3 categories (see https://www.aamc.org/download/321470/data/factstable7.pdf)

Example Data Below from 2014
49,474 Applicant
21,355 Acceptee
20,343 Matriculant

So of the 49,474 individuals who applied (Applicants), 21,355 individuals were accepted (Acceptees) with 20,343 individuals actually starting medical school orientation (Matriculants) .

Wonder what happened the other 1000 people between accepted and matriculated? Mostly deferrals with some mind changers mixed in? Wouldn't the deferrals from the previous year make up the gap though? Or are they not counted?

 

[LizzyM]

Wonder what happened the other 1000 people between accepted and matriculated? Mostly deferrals with some mind changers mixed in? Wouldn't the deferrals from the previous year make up the gap though? Or are they not counted?

Mind changers, couldn't get funding, couldn't get visa, got sick or injured. I'm not sure if deferrals get counted as matriculants in the year they matriculate but not as applicants or accepted in that same year.

 

[gyngyn]

Mind changers, couldn't get funding, couldn't get visa, got sick or injured. I'm not sure if deferrals get counted as matriculants in the year they matriculate but not as applicants or accepted in that same year.

Deferrals become matriculants the year they start.

 

[famoussquamous]

lol OP I and many other people took gap years because we HAD to more than us just to take them. The fact that you got your stuff together in order to get into medical school right out of college is a good thing. I bet if most people had the option to they'd go into med school right after undergrad. Lots of people have those extra credentials in medical school because they either knew they didn't have enough to get in straight out or they wanted to bolster their app