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I’m 99% sure I will be applying early decision to a certain school for reasons. I know, early decision is generally a bad idea, but in my case it makes sense. If I don’t get into this one school, I will likely go a different route, so early decision it is.

The question is what decision must be given by the early decision deadline? Is it always an A or R, or can a school use a waitlist as their decision?
 
For the vast majority of schools, R is not an ED decision. You either get an A or simply passed into regular application pool. Presumably you have contacted and discussed early admission with the school in question. If not, ED moves from a bad idea to very foolish
Thanks for the reply. I emailed them about it a couple weeks ago, but never received a reply. The thing is, regardless of whether it is early decision or not, I’m only applying to this one school. So, especially if I am just put back in the applicant pool rather than given an R, I don’t see the harm in doing early decision. Am I wrong there?
 
Nope. In fact, you are doing exactly the right thing. If circumstances dictate that you can only apply to one school, you have absolutely nothing to lose by applying ED, and everything to gain by demonstrating in the most tangible way possible that they are your first choice.
 
I would strongly disagree with the idea that applying ED and not getting in helps you. the flip side of this is you are now in the regular admissions pile since you may not get to that pile until October, may at the bottom of the pile. While you may have been screened for ED, it does not mean you application was fully evaluated, letters read, review considered, etc. so you may be just starting the evaluation process late in the cycle. Additionally, with many applicants applying ED at most schools, it will not impress the adcom that you are applying to only this school. No one will care. It will not help your application. Indeed, if you make this is the only school you are applying to as major point in your application without string reasons and evidence to back if up, it could hurt your chances

The question I have is which is more important: becoming a physician or staying in the geographic area of the school? If it the former, then your logic for only applying to one school is thrown out the window. If its the later, realize many schools, might send you to distant location for various rotations, and residency as well as practice may send you across the country.

So you have to ask yourself which is more important: becoming a physician who or staying in the location. And if you answer both but I’m gonna say you havent answered the question
I would like to say that becoming a physician is more important, but it isn’t. If I cannot get into this medical school, I will go the NP route. I want to become a physician, I believe that if I go the NP route, I will lament the lack of training I receive and will spend more time searching out better training in the future, however, it’s something I’ll just have to deal with. I am married to someone with a career here, and have a child who is a state champion athlete in their sport who would be hurt a lot by a move. Beside that, this school has everything I want in a medical school.
 
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It’s just not really feasible in this day and age (when acceptance rates are so low) to want to be a physician but only be willing to apply to one school

I totally understand your situation, but the odds aren’t great unless you have already talked to the admissions committee and have received a verbal hint that you’ll be accepted

As mentioned above, most schools will not give a hard R but will either defer or waitlist. However, it should be known that these tend to be polite gestures, and are, in effect, soft rejections.
 
I would strongly disagree with the idea that applying ED and not getting in helps you. the flip side of this is you are now in the regular admissions pile since you may not get to that pile until October, may at the bottom of the pile. While you may have been screened for ED, it does not mean you application was fully evaluated, letters read, review considered, etc. so you may be just starting the evaluation process late in the cycle. Additionally, with many applicants applying ED at most schools, it will not impress the adcom that you are applying to only this school. No one will care. It will not help your application. Indeed, if you make this is the only school you are applying to as major point in your application without string reasons and evidence to back if up, it could hurt your chances

The question I have is which is more important: becoming a physician or staying in the geographic area of the school? If it the former, then your logic for only applying to one school is thrown out the window. If its the later, realize many schools, might send you to distant location for various rotations, and residency as well as practice may send you across the country.

So you have to ask yourself which is more important: becoming a physician who or staying in the location. And if you answer both but I’m gonna say you havent answered the question
The thing is, you are giving general advice geared to the 99.99% of premeds who desperately want to become doctors, and are basically willing to go anywhere and do anything for the privilege. The fact that more people like that exist than there are available seats in med schools is precisely what creates the so-called "sellers' market" that allows schools to do pretty much whatever they want to applicants in the admissions process.

@Radishguy is the 0.01% exception. He is an established person with a life and a family, who would love to become a doctor if, and only if, he can do it on his terms. Sure, he is less likely to succeed than rest of us who are willing to invest countless hours and thousands of dollars applying to dozens of schools chasing our dream, but that's his call, and there is nothing inherently wrong with it. I honestly don't think being placed in the regular pool after being denied admission ED is a big deal, since it's likely a soft R at that point anyway. So what difference does it make just where in the pile the application is, after being reviewed and rejected for the early acceptance the applicant sought?

OTOH, he is EXACTLY who ED programs are designed for, so why discourage him? He has clearly articulated reasons for wanting one, and only one school. Most schools don't care about that, and don't offer an ED program to accommodate it. This one does, and it comes along with an admissions preference if he turns out to be what they are looking for. And, if not, that's fine, since he is apparently unwilling to separate from his family for 4 years, or to uproot them, in order to pursue this. That's a perfectly legit choice.

As far as rotations, many schools do not send students all over creation, but, even if this one does, that will only be for discrete blocks of time, so it's likely manageable. As far as residency, none of us knows enough about his goals to advise on whether he might have to move in 4 years, which he must realize will be a distinct possibility.

In any event, that has nothing to do with the original question, which had nothing to do with what OP surely already knows - i.e., that applying to only one school seriously limits one's odds of success. The question was whether WL was a possible decision in applying ED. And the short answer is that it doesn't matter, because if an applicant is unsuccessful ED, the odds of success later are seriously diminished, whether it's a WL or a spot in the regular pool, due to the significantly increased competition in the regular pool and the fact that the applicant was already passed over ED.
 
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I agree, it is fine to have other priorities in life than just getting into med school. If location is not negotiable, then that's that. I would just mention that you need to have a plan for residency, as unless you're applying for a noncompetitive specialty and your school is known for retaining their own students, you may not have the option to stay for residency and there is no easy "off ramp" from medicine at that point. But you do have 4 years to figure that part out.

I will say that you should try very hard to contact this school, though, to find out their ED review policy in greater detail. If you're going to get a full review through the ED process and get evaluated regardless, then this is a no risk proposition. If on the other hand you could get screened and not fully reviewed, thus delaying your review until October... that would hurt your chances significantly.
 

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