Determining out of state friendly schools

[MaybeDr]

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I'm just wondering if anyone has a a better formula than this for determining out of state friendly schools.

I just bought MSAR and I'm supremely disappointed that the information is organized to poorly. God knows why you would bury the OOS data 4 clicks in.... (or maybe I'm missing a shortcut). What I've been doing is taking https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2013factstable1.pdf and referencing their out of state matriculants. If it is 37% or higher I put them on my list as okay. After that I cross reference with MSAR and look at interviews received, applications received, and matriculants. Does anyone know when to throw out a school from this point? low instate application to interview ratio and not proportional to OOS applications to interview ratio? Can't really figure out a criteria here.

Does anyone know of a faster way to do this? This takes an extremely long time...

 

[mrh125]

I was in the same position as you a week ago and no, unfortunately, it's really hard and time consuming (Ive spent around 3 days just doing that). It's also really hard to tell if the % OOS that's in the 20s and 30s is just those with state ties. You'll also get info that's all over the place pretty much everywhere. Just keep chugging through and then post your list on the what are my chances board for more info. Also, this is good practice for what you're going to have do with school secondaries where you're going to have to google each and every school and put some info about them in the secondaries, except it's even more frustrating because most have seemingly identical research opportunities and pretty much every mission statement is identical.

If you're in CA like me I may be able to help you more. People will also say to ignore public state institutions that are OOS in favor of private institutions, but not every public institution has an incredibly strong in state preference.

Also, this whole process is very involved like that and frustrating whether you're going through you're 50th draft of your personal statement or finding OOS schools from looking at every single school. In your frustration though, you'll be more prepared for things to be similarly frustrating in the future.

 

[MaybeDr]

Thanks @mrh125, I'll keep chugging. Unfortunately I am from CA too. The only reason I say unfortunately is we get the short end of the stick our avg state stats are high and our medical schools all have MCAT averages 32+ (34+ if you take our Davis and Loma Linda).

 

[mrh125]

Thanks @mrh125, I'll keep chugging. Unfortunately I am from CA too. The only reason I say unfortunately is we get the short end of the stick our avg state stats are high and our medical schools all have MCAT averages 32+ (34+ if you take our Davis and Loma Linda).

yea that's for sure, if you PM me and share your stats I can definitely point you in the right direction and save you a few hours of pulling your hair out. Too bad UC Merced doesn't have a med school yet. If CA was anything like TX we would all get into a state med school.

 

[WingedOx]

Any public school in Ohio, Wayne State, Rush, Jefferson, Drexel, Boston U, Einstein, MCW,

 

[mrh125]

Any public school in Ohio, Wayne State, Rush, Jefferson, Drexel, Boston U, Einstein, MCW,

good post, just don't touch North east ohio. that school only accepts instate people in their BS/MD program or something.

 

[WingedOx]

good post, just don't touch North east ohio. that school only accepts instate people in their BS/MD program or something.

well you can also add Case to my list. (not sure they still have that awful PBL curriculum the first two years though...). I also forgot about Wake Forest, SLU.

/there are of course schools like UMich and Duke, but I'm trying to avoid the tip top stat schools under the assumption that if you could get into one of those, you probably got into a UC school too... not a good assumption, but still it's there
//keep in mind that if you do go out of state, you'll annoy your non-Californian classmates to no end with your incessant and inevitable whining about the weather.

 

[ChemEngMD]

Vermont. 25% of their Class of 2017 is from Cali.

 

[MaybeDr]

keep in mind that if you do go out of state, you'll annoy your non-Californian classmates to no end with your incessant and inevitable whining about the weather.

I attended Rutgers University for a bit in undergrad. They get so annoyed. My best friend would quote "It's more of a dry heat" in this very winey voice whenever I'd mention the weather.

 

[WingedOx]

I attended Rutgers University for a bit in undergrad. They get so annoyed. My best friend would quote "It's more of a dry heat" in this very winey voice whenever I'd mention the weather.

Despite my giving advice to the Californians in this thread, I am not one. I'm more giving that as a warning so that people like me in the future won't have to deal with the incessant whining of "you people".

 

[gyngyn]

Despite my giving advice to the Californians in this thread, I am not one. I'm more giving that as a warning so that people like me in the future won't have to deal with the incessant whining of "you people".

"We people" are the largest source of OOS medical school tuition in the nation. Our "whining" is a small price to pay for such largesse!

 

[MaybeDr]

Everyone is just jealous of our celebrity wherever we go. "Oh you're from California?!?!?" "Lets be friends, I love you." We've spent a lot of time convincing ourselves we're great from birth.