did not match for 2 years?

[amoebaman]

I am just wondering if people who did not match this year, and do not match next year, have a shot at ever getting a residency?

It's just a hypothetical scenario. I did not apply to FM and paid for it this year. 🙁

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[MCATTT]

I am just wondering if people who did not match this year, and do not match next year, have a shot at ever getting a residency?

It's just a hypothetical scenario. I did not apply to FM and paid for it this year. 🙁

I have heard stories where people eventually matched on their 3rd try. I would apply more broadly including FM if matching is your priority.

 

[turquoiseblue]

it is possible....keep trying...some people try for many years and finally get it, especially FMG's. definitely apply to psych/fm as backups. do something like research or externships in the meantime while waiting for a position.

 

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[braluk]

I've heard stories about PGY2's slipping into PGY3 spots since many residents use this time for research (at least for surgery programs) and some opt to stay an extra year which leaves a categorical spot open. Be wary that the longer you go through a prelim route, the more graduate federal funding you consume of your overall allowance, and makes reapplying as a brand new PGY1 categorical fairly difficult, at least within the specialties with longer training periods, since it leaves programs without further funding for your remaining years. I think that's how it works, so please correct me if I am incorrect.

 

[gschl1234]

I am just wondering if people who did not match this year, and do not match next year, have a shot at ever getting a residency?

It's just a hypothetical scenario. I did not apply to FM and paid for it this year. 🙁

I knew a guy who matched ophtho on his 3rd attempt. I've also heard of a guy matching ENT on his 3rd or 4th attempt.

 

[NOsquid]

I've heard stories about PGY2's slipping into PGY3 spots since many residents use this time for research (at least for surgery programs) and some opt to stay an extra year which leaves a categorical spot open. Be wary that the longer you go through a prelim route, the more graduate federal funding you consume of your overall allowance, and makes reapplying as a brand new PGY1 categorical fairly difficult, at least within the specialties with longer training periods, since it leaves programs without further funding for your remaining years. I think that's how it works, so please correct me if I am incorrect.

I'm not sure that prelim years count against your funding.

I'd be more worried about having the time to interview, prelims are often second class citizens, getting time off when you need it might be tough.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

I'm not sure that prelim years count against your funding.

Review this.

 

[DrJosephKim]

I know several people who didn't match even after applying to hundreds of primary care residency programs. There are several things you can do to strengthen your application even after you graduate: publishing, research, etc. You don't need to get another graduate degree, but make sure you're being productive with your time so that potential residency programs will see that you're still invested in your medical career.

 

[bigDinLV]

I know several people who didn't match even after applying to hundreds of primary care residency programs. There are several things you can do to strengthen your application even after you graduate: publishing, research, etc. You don't need to get another graduate degree, but make sure you're being productive with your time so that potential residency programs will see that you're still invested in your medical career.

Hundreds of primary care programs? I have to say there must be something very wrong with that applicant.

 

[R Sterling]

I am just wondering if people who did not match this year, and do not match next year, have a shot at ever getting a residency?

It's just a hypothetical scenario. I did not apply to FM and paid for it this year. 🙁

I haven't matched for 2 cycles. I'm hoping the third time works out. The advice I got from members on here is pretty valuable. Apply broadly to FM, ( I don't know about applying to psych as a back up....) take step 3, get some clinical experience and research in. It is very hard to find at times, so just keep at it. Call up doctors that you personally know and ask them if they can help you out. I called my primary doc and he helped me out with an observership. Good luck.

 

[Gordon Sims]

I am just wondering if people who did not match this year, and do not match next year, have a shot at ever getting a residency?

It's just a hypothetical scenario. I did not apply to FM and paid for it this year. 🙁

Sorry about your luck. Unfortunately each year out makes you less desirable as a match candidate. However, taking and passing Step 3 on the first try might help. At least it will show that you are able to be licensed barring any other problems with your application. It will also show you're keeping your medical knowledge fresh.

 

[turquoiseblue]

Hundreds of primary care programs? I have to say there must be something very wrong with that applicant.

Most IMG's apply to hundreds of programs and I am one of them. If you apply widely enough and to inner city community programs that most would stay away from, you're bound to at least get an interview or more. Maybe the op didn't apply to enough programs. if you're only applying to a handful like 30 programs, that may not be wide enough.

 

[bitterswtmocha]

Really sorry about your luck so far, but I do hope it turns around soon!

Have you considered "scrambling" into open positions? I believe there are plenty of primary care spots open each year after the match that go unfilled. If you are willing to do FM anyway, that might be the way to go?

 

[gutonc]

Really sorry about your luck so far, but I do hope it turns around soon!

Have you considered "scrambling" into open positions? I believe there are plenty of primary care spots open each year after the match that go unfilled. If you are willing to do FM anyway, that might be the way to go?

You believe incorrectly. This year there were 156 FM spots (out of 2700) and 54 categorical IM spots (out of 5100) and nearly 1000 unmatched US seniors (nevermind unmatched DOs, IMGs and other independent applicants). That doesn't really add up to "plenty of primary care spots" in the Scramble.

 

[turquoiseblue]

You believe incorrectly. This year there were 156 FM spots (out of 2700) and 54 categorical IM spots (out of 5100) and nearly 1000 unmatched US seniors (nevermind unmatched DOs, IMGs and other independent applicants). That doesn't really add up to "plenty of primary care spots" in the Scramble.

I'm an FMG and i've always gotten spots in the post scramble scramble. i have never matched or scrambled before. i don't know if it means im lucky, but maybe programs are more desperate for candidates if they don't match or scramble and have an open spot offcycle.

 

[DocDanny]

You believe incorrectly. This year there were 156 FM spots (out of 2700) and 54 categorical IM spots (out of 5100) and nearly 1000 unmatched US seniors (nevermind unmatched DOs, IMGs and other independent applicants). That doesn't really add up to "plenty of primary care spots" in the Scramble.

And then new scrambles every year.

Wouldn't this mean that there are, on average, 700 graduates every year who will never match?

 

[Samoa]

You believe incorrectly. This year there were 156 FM spots (out of 2700) and 54 categorical IM spots (out of 5100) and nearly 1000 unmatched US seniors (nevermind unmatched DOs, IMGs and other independent applicants). That doesn't really add up to "plenty of primary care spots" in the Scramble.

On the last day of the scramble, there were only 4 FM spots listed, and 2 IM spots. And they were probably all taken, and the programs just hadn't bothered to notify the NRMP (which I found to be a very common occurrence).