Did the Argosy thread get deleted.... again?

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Maybe the mods can consider restricting the ability to delete a thread to mods only? This is rather frustrating, 3 topics with some valuable info (AND the last one didn’t have as much “negativity “ as others!) deleted by the OP? Why bother starting a topic if you’re just going to delete it in less than 24??

Edited to add same OP also deleted a thread in the masters forum made last night.
 
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It seems like all of the Argosy threads that the OP had started have been deleted. So much for wanting to keep that information up to help people stay away.
 
Can there be changes made to the forum that don't allow posters to unilaterally delete threads without mod approval? Lots of important information and discussion keeps getting lost, because one person in particular keeps deleting them.
 
I'm left wondering if it is more likely that all these users are making profiles and independently deleting them, or there is someone in a position of power that is deleting them instead.

I'm still pretty new here and getting used to names so I don't have a sense of if this is all the same account or if they're different people, or what is going on. Is it one person??
 
memedoctor said:
I'm left wondering if it is more likely that all these users are making profiles and independently deleting them, or there is someone in a position of power that is deleting them instead.

I'm still pretty new here and getting used to names so I don't have a sense of if this is all the same account or if they're different people, or what is going on. Is it one person??
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The one person who keeps starting these threads stated that they were deleting them because they were worried that they would be found out and blackballed by the faculty at one of these Argosy diploma mills.
 
psych.meout said:
The one person who keeps starting these threads stated that they were deleting them because they were worried that they would be found out and blackballed by the faculty at one of these Argosy diploma mills.
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But I thought they already left the school? It’s really frustrating when they delete a thread with a good discussion on it.
 
psych.meout said:
The one person who keeps starting these threads stated that they were deleting them because they were worried that they would be found out and blackballed by the faculty at one of these Argosy diploma mills.
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Wow okay, that's annoying
 
The first two were deleted because I wasn't comfortable with my identity being known by people at Argosy because I was still attending. The last one I made after I withdrew was deleted because you people don't know how to stay on topic and if you're going to hijack my threads and **** talk about anyone who isn't in a funded PhD program you can do that on someone else's thread. This site gives me the ability to delete a thread and in light of all that I did.

It was so profoundly telling that you all think anyone who doesn't get into a funded PhD program shouldn't be going to school... I don't even know what to say about that. Seriously, how up your own ass do you have to be to be that full of yourself you don't think anyone who has to pay for school should be there. It's revolting anyone thinks that, yet here's a whole forum full of such people. It made me sick and it was my thread and that wasn't the topic at hand anyway, so I deleted it.

Lots of new stuff to talk about at Argosy too but sadly the people around here can't stay on topic or help themselves from ****ting on those they deem "beneath" them and their lofty status as... nothing but licensed psychologists, just like the ones that have been coming out of Argosy for years.

Seriously, you people make me think the Argosy faculty were actually the good guys.

I'm done here, bye all.
 
NonBinaryDoe said:
The first two were deleted because I wasn't comfortable with my identity being known by people at Argosy because I was still attending. The last one I made after I withdrew was deleted because you people don't know how to stay on topic and if you're going to hijack my threads and **** talk about anyone who isn't in a funded PhD program you can do that on someone else's thread. This site gives me the ability to delete a thread and in light of all that I did.

It was so profoundly telling that you all think anyone who doesn't get into a funded PhD program shouldn't be going to school... I don't even know what to say about that. Seriously, how up your own ass do you have to be to be that full of yourself you don't think anyone who has to pay for school should be there. It's revolting anyone thinks that, yet here's a whole forum full of such people. It made me sick and it was my thread and that wasn't the topic at hand anyway, so I deleted it.

Lots of new stuff to talk about at Argosy too but sadly the people around here can't stay on topic or help themselves from ****ting on those they deem "beneath" them and their lofty status as... nothing but licensed psychologists, just like the ones that have been coming out of Argosy for years.

Seriously, you people make me think the Argosy faculty were actually the good guys.

I'm done here, bye all.
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Using the phase "you people"....has never helped further anyone's cause or point, ever.
 
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NonBinaryDoe said:
The first two were deleted because I wasn't comfortable with my identity being known by people at Argosy because I was still attending. The last one I made after I withdrew was deleted because you people don't know how to stay on topic and if you're going to hijack my threads and **** talk about anyone who isn't in a funded PhD program you can do that on someone else's thread. This site gives me the ability to delete a thread and in light of all that I did.

It was so profoundly telling that you all think anyone who doesn't get into a funded PhD program shouldn't be going to school... I don't even know what to say about that. Seriously, how up your own ass do you have to be to be that full of yourself you don't think anyone who has to pay for school should be there. It's revolting anyone thinks that, yet here's a whole forum full of such people. It made me sick and it was my thread and that wasn't the topic at hand anyway, so I deleted it.

Lots of new stuff to talk about at Argosy too but sadly the people around here can't stay on topic or help themselves from ****ting on those they deem "beneath" them and their lofty status as... nothing but licensed psychologists, just like the ones that have been coming out of Argosy for years.

Seriously, you people make me think the Argosy faculty were actually the good guys.

I'm done here, bye all.
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The argument being made is not that those students are not worthy of attending graduate school or of becoming psychologists. What is actually being argued is that these programs are terrible and should be shut down. If a student could never get into any of the other good programs, regardless of funding, then, yes, maybe they shouldn't get a doctorate in clinical psychology. Other students who attend these programs out of convenience aren't being told that they should go to school, they are being told that this is a poor strategy and will result in bad outcomes for them. I.e., they are being told that they can and should go to school, just not those bad ones.

For those programs that are unfunded, but still provide good training, the argument is that these programs are not worth the expense, regardless of the quality. People are urging these students not to attend those programs specifically for their own welfare, because that level of debt can be insurmountable. Furthermore, many of those students, with more experience and judicious application strategies, could get into quality, funded programs. Thus, they are again being told they should go to school, but just to funded programs.

Basically, you are confusing criticism of the decisions students are making with criticism of their character and ability.
 
psych.meout said:
The argument being made is not that those students are not worthy of attending graduate school or of becoming psychologists. What is actually being argued is that these programs are terrible and should be shut down. If a student could never get into any of the other good programs, regardless of funding, then, yes, maybe they shouldn't get a doctorate in clinical psychology. Other students who attend these programs out of convenience aren't being told that they should go to school, they are being told that this is a poor strategy and will result in bad outcomes for them. I.e., they are being told that they can and should go to school, just not those bad ones.

For those programs that are unfunded, but still provide good training, the argument is that these programs are not worth the expense, regardless of the quality. People are urging these students not to attend those programs specifically for their own welfare, because that level of debt can be insurmountable. Furthermore, many of those students, with more experience and judicious application strategies, could get into quality, funded programs. Thus, they are again being told they should go to school, but just to funded programs.

Basically, you are confusing criticism of the decisions students are making with criticism of their character and ability.
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Curiosity killed the cat... sigh. Fine, I'll bite, just because your post is the perfect example of what my post was talking about.

First of all, you're simply wrong, that wasn't the argument being made. The argument was quite plainly that if you can't get into a funded program you shouldn't become a psychologist and you even go on in your post to admit that, so you're just making crap up to argue with me saying that wasn't the argument.

Second, I assume you've never attended one of these "terrible" programs so you're just talking out your ass. Argosy is but one group of schools. You can't say "look at Argosy" in order to say "Alliant needs to be shut down." That is grade school level stupidity and makes your actual argument here quite plain no matter how much you try to deny it. Any half-educated person would know all of these programs can't be terrible. My Argosy campus was, very much so. That was one campus in one group of schools and even I with my first hand experience at one of these schools know better than to claim that is the case for all such schools, yet you can claim that without any experience at any of them... I mean, you can do that if you want but you're really foolish to do so because well, no half-educated person would make such a preposterous claim that is so easily proven false.

Furthermore, if these programs are as terrible as you claim none of their grads would ever pass the EPPP, so just stop with your nonsense, it's too easy to see through. You are the narcissistic hoity toity type my other post was talking about. You are furious that an Argosy or Alliant grad is perfectly equal to you and makes just as much money when they were so beneath you they couldn't get into a funded program. Pardon me while I enjoy your impotent rage for a moment because with Argosy going down schools like Alliant will just see higher numbers of students in their programs.

As far as going to unfunded programs being a financial disaster... methinks all the Alliant and Argosy and other such program graduates who are doing just fine financially would tell you to spare yourself the embarrassment of talking out your ass and confine yourself to things you actually know something about. All graduates of any program at any school in any discipline who had the audacity to pay for their own education run into financial difficulties because people in general are stupid and bad with money. Those that are not do not run into financial difficulties. This is true across the board and true at Argosy. If people subscribed to your clueless way of thinking about education we would have a crisis shortage of professionals in all areas. Veterinarians would cease to be a thing, as they take on more debt than an Argosy grad and make even less money unless they are very lucky. Your cry of "financial disaster" is as fake as Trump's national emergency and betrays your true motive here-to keep as many people out of the profession as you can. It's not working and it's not going to work. With every Argosy campus that closes another such program will open up and you couldn't care less about the students that go there so that part of your argument, "save the students"... oh please.

So just stop, you are wrong about everything you've said, lied about other things that have been said, and have so little understanding of how professional education works in the U.S. I'm left shaking my head at you. What it must be like to be able to keep my funded program nose in the air and see nothing but clouds... must be nice.

And since I'm sure I've violated numerous rules around here with my honest, direct, non-PC post-the kind of language mental health professionals shreek in horror about-I imagine I'll be banned soon and you can go back to not having truth dropped in your face.

So write up that response I'll never see so your like-minded ilk around here can be proud of you and pretend you are right. Seriously, they need it and so do you. The cognitive dissonance is too much for you and you need something to pull yourself back from abyss with.

Okay, really am out this time so you can all breathe easier now. This place can go back to being the sickeningly passive aggressive bastion it is.
 
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psych.meout said:
The argument being made is not that those students are not worthy of attending graduate school or of becoming psychologists. What is actually being argued is that these programs are terrible and should be shut down. If a student could never get into any of the other good programs, regardless of funding, then, yes, maybe they shouldn't get a doctorate in clinical psychology. Other students who attend these programs out of convenience aren't being told that they should go to school, they are being told that this is a poor strategy and will result in bad outcomes for them. I.e., they are being told that they can and should go to school, just not those bad ones.

For those programs that are unfunded, but still provide good training, the argument is that these programs are not worth the expense, regardless of the quality. People are urging these students not to attend those programs specifically for their own welfare, because that level of debt can be insurmountable. Furthermore, many of those students, with more experience and judicious application strategies, could get into quality, funded programs. Thus, they are again being told they should go to school, but just to funded programs.

Basically, you are confusing criticism of the decisions students are making with criticism of their character and ability.
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Honestly, if that was the only claim made here or if that was how this was being framed, then I would not have chimed in myself. There were some genuinely insulting things said about people taking out loans to go to school, suggestions that people were stupid and/or irresponsible for doing so, and questions about whether they should be seeking higher degrees in the first place.
I'm deeply critical of the way that the profit motive impacts just about every aspect of education, but that was not always the main thrust of the discussion. A chunk of it was definitely centered around the irresponsibility of students taking out loans.

Y'all can mock this person (psych.meout - to be clear, I don't think that's what you are doing, but certainly some others are) for being upset or offended about how they took these comments and misrepresent the discussion as being only about X or Y when there were actually several arguably condescending/insulting lines of discussion; but the thread has been restored so perhaps feel free to look at the direct evidence again.
The mockery and dismissal here is, uh, not a particularly good look.
 
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