Did WAGS stop giving out bonus to Rph?

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I usually get my yearly bonus beginning of November. Nothing so far this year despite excellent reviews from management. I wonder if they stopped giving out bonuses to staff Rph.
 
Yes. There is no merit raise and there is no Staff RPH Bonus. Bonus is only for RXM, MGR.
 
Thank You, that's what I figured. I busted my behind this year and met every metric at at 400+ Rx/day store and got nothing out of it. Oh well, I should be happy I still have a job.
 
PharmacistFl12 said:
Thank You, that's what I figured. I busted my behind this year and met every metric at at 400+ Rx/day store and got nothing out of it. Oh well, I should be happy I still have a job.
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this statement makes me sad - says a lot about what is happening to our profession.

out of curiosity - what were average staff rph bonus's for you in the past?
 
This isn't meant to downplay your hard work, it's just curiosity. There are a lot of jobs out there that are just as strenuous or even more so why do you feel you should get a bonus for doing your job when you aren't a manager?
 
Dred Pirate said:
this statement makes me sad - says a lot about what is happening to our profession.

out of curiosity - what were average staff rph bonus's for you in the past?
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Around $2k. Not much but it was more about feeling appreciated and rewarded for giving your all.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
This isn't meant to downplay your hard work, it's just curiosity. There are a lot of jobs out there that are just as strenuous or even more so why do you feel you should get a bonus for doing your job when you aren't a manager?
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Because whether it is WAGs or any other major chain, when the manager is not around you (the staff) is basically in charged. You are as much responsible for the performance of the pharmacy. Once again not having a bonus is not going to kill me but it more about feeling appreciated for my hard work. At a high volume store, the staff Rph has to carry almost the same load as the manager.
 
Amicable Angora said:
My genuine condolences.
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It's not that big of a deal financially. My staff salary is good enough. It was just more of an issue of gesture of appreciation. It's discouraging to know you can give 110% at a very rough store and get no appreciation in return. Someone working at a much slower store is getting paid the same.
 
PharmacistFl12 said:
Because whether it is WAGs or any other major chain, when the manager is not around you (the staff) is basically in charged. You are as much responsible for the performance of the pharmacy. Once again not having a bonus is not going to kill me but it more about feeling appreciated for my hard work. At a high volume store, the staff Rph has to carry almost the same load as the manager.
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A teacher is in charge of the education of many students but doesn't get a raise (well I guess some due in certain areas). Again not trying to downplay your effort but if you weren't achieving your goals when the rxm wasn't around, you wouldn't be doing your job. You'd probably also get a verbal warning at some point.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
A teacher is in charge of the education of many students but doesn't get a raise (well I guess some due in certain areas). Again not trying to downplay your effort but if you weren't achieving your goals when the rxm wasn't around, you wouldn't be doing your job. You'd probably also get a verbal warning at some point.
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By your logic, why should a manager get a bonus? I mean, if all they do is enforce established policies, aren't they just doing their job? If they stopped enforcing them, they'd probably also get a verbal warning at some point.
 
pharm B said:
By your logic, why should a manager get a bonus? I mean, if all they do is enforce established policies, aren't they just doing their job? If they stopped enforcing them, they'd probably also get a verbal warning at some point.
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Hey I didn't create the idea of bonuses. You do have to give the manager some incentive to be the manager. You can either pay them more or incentivize them with a bonus.

I will say though that if you told your techs they get $5k each if they meet their goals, they would all work harder.

But that's not my call, managers get bonuses.
 
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wagrxm2000 said:
This isn't meant to downplay your hard work, it's just curiosity. There are a lot of jobs out there that are just as strenuous or even more so why do you feel you should get a bonus for doing your job when you aren't a manager?
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The idea of a retail staff rph bonus is currently industry standard. Your flippant attitude towards your own colleagues at WG speaks volumes. Not surprising, this behavior is widespread at the DM/high volume pic level.
 
quickpic007 said:
The idea of a retail staff rph bonus is currently industry standard. Your flippant attitude towards your own colleagues at WG speaks volumes. Not surprising, this behavior is widespread at the DM/high volume pic level.
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Ok take a $10k cut in pay and earn a bonus.

The crap some rxm have to take, they should be paid more. Instead they work for a bonus.

Do staff work hard? Yes, I never said they didn't. I reward my staff once to twice a month.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
Ok take a $10k cut in pay and earn a bonus.

The crap some rxm have to take, they should be paid more. Instead they work for a bonus.

Do staff work hard? Yes, I never said they didn't. I reward my staff once to twice a month.
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RXM’s do earn a slightly higher rate, get more hours per pay period, receive a larger bonus, have better job security, and more freedom in creating schedules. Thats your incentive. I dont see how that impacts a staff rph receiving a 2k bonus for exceeding expectations.
 
PharmDminus said:
RXM’s do earn a slightly higher rate, get more hours per pay period, receive a larger bonus, have better job security, and more freedom in creating schedules. Thats your incentive. I dont see how that impacts a staff rph receiving a 2k bonus for exceeding expectations.
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Most are garunteed 40+ hours. But for many the incentive is like a $2 per hour raise with a mountain of responsibility and DMs yelling at you first. I don't think staff shouldn't get bonuses or get tossed under the buss, but many RXMs put up with way more headaache than what they get in return.
 
PharmDminus said:
RXM’s do earn a slightly higher rate, get more hours per pay period, receive a larger bonus, have better job security, and more freedom in creating schedules. Thats your incentive. I dont see how that impacts a staff rph receiving a 2k bonus for exceeding expectations.
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I haven't had a new grad recently so I don't know their pay right now. The pay difference isn't high enough to be an rxm if there wasn't a bonus. I make somewhere around $10 to $15k more then my staff but I take all the responsibility. If the rxm salary already contained the bonus it would be worth the job. This is my point, if staff want to take off some of their salary and make them earn it in a bonus just to make them happy, I'm sure Walgreens would oblige.

Not to take away from the staff rph, but the techs have a much larger role in obtaining our goals. I've always said give me the quickest pharmacists but I want the best techs.
 
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wagrxm2000 said:
I haven't had a new grad recently so I don't know their pay right now. The pay difference isn't high enough to be an rxm if there wasn't a bonus. I make somewhere around $10 to $15k more then my staff but I take all the responsibility. If the rxm salary already contained the bonus it would be worth the job. This is my point, if staff want to take off some of their salary and make them earn it in a bonus just to make them happy, I'm sure Walgreens would oblige.

Not to take away from the staff rph, but the techs have a much larger role in obtaining our goals. I've always said give me the quickest pharmacists but I want the best techs.
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I completely disagree. You are only there 45 hours max per week. Your staff Rph is managing the pharmacy the other 40 hours per week. I can tell you for a fact that the way Walgreens is structured, the staff rph has virtually the same responsibility.
 
PharmacistFl12 said:
I completely disagree. You are only there 45 hours max per week. Your staff Rph is managing the pharmacy the other 40 hours per week. I can tell you for a fact that the way Walgreens is structured, the staff rph has virtually the same responsibility.
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I guess we disagree then. Ask for a pay cut and you'll get your bonus. If goals aren't being met it's because the rxm isn't doing their job. Look at nps score. As long as the staff is friendly, they won't affect it. A badly trained tech will destroy it.

My store runs the same way no matter who shows up including floaters because I've trained my techs. I tell my techs to control floaters and make sure they stay in proper work flow. If they have a problem with that they can talk to me or the store manager.

I love and appreciate my staff, don't get me wrong, but the staff simply doesn't have the responsibility that the rxm has.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
Ok take a $10k cut in pay and earn a bonus.

The crap some rxm have to take, they should be paid more. Instead they work for a bonus.

Do staff work hard? Yes, I never said they didn't. I reward my staff once to twice a month.
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How do you reward your staff pharmacists?


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ChalupaBatman86 said:
How do you reward your staff pharmacists?


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Christmas gift each year and food. I'm also very open to switching shifts when specific occasions arise. I also try to take the whole group out on a weekend once in while, well at least the ones the want to. It's probably a good $1k each year.

The rxm needs to understand, if they treat their co-workers well, they will enjoy their work themselves much better plus meet their goals.
 
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PharmacistFl12 said:
I completely disagree. You are only there 45 hours max per week. Your staff Rph is managing the pharmacy the other 40 hours per week. I can tell you for a fact that the way Walgreens is structured, the staff rph has virtually the same responsibility.
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There never has been much of an incentive to be a RXM at Wags. The only thing left is job security which can be viewed as salary cuts, freezes, threats of termination should happen to other people and not the position they have attained. Although, the RXM has never been desirable and an easy position for any decent pharmacist to attain. The pithy attitude your picking up on is a desire to think the position was won rather than given because no one else wanted it and that their job is secure unlike a staff spot. Does anyone else get a bit creeped out when someone talks a bit too possessively of "my staff" and rewarding them and treating them this way or that like its their puppy?
 
Bubba98 said:
There never has been much of an incentive to be a RXM at Wags. The only thing left is job security which can be viewed as salary cuts, freezes, threats of termination should happen to other people and not the position they have attained. Although, the RXM has never been desirable and an easy position for any decent pharmacist to attain. The pithy attitude your picking up on is a desire to think the position was won rather than given because no one else wanted it and that their job is secure unlike a staff spot. Does anyone else get a bit creeped out when someone talks a bit too possessively of "my staff" and rewarding them and treating them this way or that like its their puppy?
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You realize if you don't "treat them like a puppy" they won't do their job well right? They won't feel appreciated.
 
whoever came up with the bonus structuring is an idiot. they reward lower volume stores with pathetic sales with $2k in bonus. and ppl who make more sales, work a lot harder, at higher volume 24 hr stores with $200 bonus. it doesn't make sense to reward less for making more sales. and to reward more for a low volume store with less sales and profits.
 
sosoo said:
whoever came up with the bonus structuring is an idiot. they reward lower volume stores with pathetic sales with $2k in bonus. and ppl who make more sales, work a lot harder, at higher volume 24 hr stores with $200 bonus. it doesn't make sense to reward less for making more sales. and to reward more for a low volume store with less sales and profits.
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Huh? The higher the tier, the higher the bonus.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
Huh? The higher the tier, the higher the bonus.
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i forgot to say at cvs. making more sales at higher volume stores getting $200 bonus. whereas lower volume staffs getting 10x more.
 
sosoo said:
i forgot to say at cvs. making more sales at higher volume stores getting $200 bonus. whereas lower volume staffs getting 10x more.
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Can someone else confirm this (no offense)? This definitely doesn't make sense if true.
 
wagrxm2000 said:
Can someone else confirm this (no offense)? This definitely doesn't make sense if true.
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Eh, it's sort of true. CVS does have levels based on volume, but it is so much easier to meet your metrics at a slow store that for the most part people at slow stores end up getting the same or bigger bonuses.

The bonuses were mostly a joke anyway, hardly worth a pharmacist worrying about. I actually agree with your earlier comment that if the chains really cared about the metrics they would give those bonuses to the lead tech. You can bet some **** would get done then!

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owlegrad said:
Eh, it's sort of true. CVS does have levels based on volume, but it is so much easier to meet your metrics at a slow store that for the most part people at slow stores end up getting the same or bigger bonuses.

The bonuses were mostly a joke anyway, hardly worth a pharmacist worrying about. I actually agree with your earlier comment that if the chains really cared about the metrics they would give those bonuses to the lead tech. You can bet some **** would get done then!

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If we're talking a few hundred dollars, that doesn't seem worth complaining about. So does cvs pay less if you add in the bonus?

It's true, immunizations would be through the roof!!!
 
wagrxm2000 said:
If we're talking a few hundred dollars, that doesn't seem worth complaining about. So does cvs pay less if you add in the bonus?

It's true, immunizations would be through the roof!!!
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I don't remember off the top of my head but I think for low-volume stores the cap for bonus was $2,500 and for high-volume stores 10,000. I could be way off base it's been awhile since I saw the scales. Getting anywhere near the top of the scale is extremely rare though. I think the biggest bonus I ever got was $500.

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Why are people acting surprised? It's just a matter of time before salary starts to go down. If Amazon starts hiring people at $50 an hour, do you think others won't follow?

Make sure you save as much as you can; remain debt free by not buying million dollar home or Ferrari. We should feel happy if most of us can keep our jobs at current rate for next 5 years. Sad but true.
 
Chrish said:
Why are people acting surprised? It's just a matter of time before salary starts to go down. If Amazon starts hiring people at $50 an hour, do you think others won't follow?

Make sure you save as much as you can; remain debt free by not buying million dollar home or Ferrari. We should feel happy if most of us can keep our jobs at current rate for next 5 years. Sad but true.
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If it means working from home, I'd probably take it. Also, more job security i would assume.
 
PharmacistFl12 said:
I usually get my yearly bonus beginning of November. Nothing so far this year despite excellent reviews from management. I wonder if they stopped giving out bonuses to staff Rph.
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Was just told today by my manager today, that they still are giving staff rph bonuses (they are based off performance review) and I should receive mine soon.
 
Is it true that the bonus amount is lower this year? I got $2000 for the last 2 years but I have heard that it's only $750 this year...
 
hcp said:
Is it true that the bonus amount is lower this year? I got $2000 for the last 2 years but I have heard that it's only $750 this year...
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has anyone gotten staff bonus yet?
 
$2000 bonus means you work at a relatively slow/low volume store (Tier 1 or 2) which really isn't worth it.

I've seen bonuses beyond $13,000 (Tier 3), however.
 
Do you have to get “excellent reviews” to get the bonus at walgreens ?
 
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