Did WV ever get rid of the rotating internship...?

[Old_Mil]

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I know there was some discussion of this a while back, and I'm considering adding a residency program in that state to my list. If they did get rid of the internship, then it's worth it to me to add it.

If not, it'll have to stay on the list of bypassed states along with MI, PA, FL, and OK.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I know there was some discussion of this a while back, and I'm considering adding a residency program in that state to my list. If they did get rid of the internship, then it's worth it to me to add it.

If not, it'll have to stay on the list of bypassed states along with MI, PA, FL, and OK.

Are you applying to AOA residencies??

 

[Old_Mil]

Are you applying to AOA residencies??

No.

 

[BobBarker]

Why do you guys worry about the internship? 99.9% of prop 42 appeals are accepted, and that number is straight out of the JAOA.

 

[Lokhtar]

It's more about the principle though, right? I mean, they are saying (in essence) that a DO student needs an extra year to be as qualified as the MD counterpart.

 

[BobBarker]

No, not at all. In most specialties a DO from one of the 5 states, has the same number of years of postgraduate training as a MD.

 

[Old_Mil]

Why do you guys worry about the internship? 99.9% of prop 42 appeals are accepted, and that number is straight out of the JAOA.

After I graduate, I'm not even going to be an AOA member, much less file a prop 42 appeal.

There are plenty of good residencies outside of the five states, and plenty of good practice opportunities. If they want to hang on to out of date regulations, its their loss.

 

[JaggerPlate]

After I graduate, I'm not even going to be an AOA member. Why would I waste ink begging them for a license I've earned? There are plenty of good residencies outside of the five states, and plenty of good practice opportunities. If they want to hang on to out of date regulations, its their loss.

I have a few honest questions:

1. What made you apply to DO schools in the first place?? You seem to just be anti everything remotely DO. I understand that there truly isn't any difference between MD and DO, but you seem to get angry when people even want to discuss OMM or anything that does slightly differ from MD.

2. Did you apply MD??

3. I understand the issues with the AOA (I think everyone does), but were you this upset with everything from the get go??

You don't have to answer my questions at all if you don't want to (or PM me if you want), and I know that as a Med student you have experienced it all etc etc, but I've always been curious. Once again, not trying to be a pre-med know it all or a dick, just wondering.

 

[Lokhtar]

No, not at all. In most specialties a DO from one of the 5 states, has the same number of years of postgraduate training as a MD.

Most isn't all, and sort of equal doesn't mean equal. I always thought it was the state legislatures that had kept the laws on the books, but I can't believe the AOA supports it. After fighting for decades to establish equivalent rights for osteopathic physicians? It doesn't make any sense.

 

[DrWBD]

Most isn't all, and sort of equal doesn't mean equal. I always thought it was the state legislatures that had kept the laws on the books, but I can't believe the AOA supports it. After fighting for decades to establish equivalent rights for osteopathic physicians? It doesn't make any sense.

It makes perfect sense.

An osteopathic internship or residency means $$ for the sponsoring hospital.
Requiring that DOs who practice in the state complete a rotating internship means that the sponsoring hospital is more likely to get $$.
Convincing (or aggressively brainwashing) students into believing that the rotating internship makes you a better physician means more students will choose to do a rotating internship, meaning more $$ for the sponsoring hospital.
When osteopathic hospitals get $$, osteopathic medical boards get $$ and justify their existence. The AOA gets $$ and keeps its sphere of influence.

On the other hand, losing rotating internships means losing $$.

Get it now?

 

[DrWBD]

I know there was some discussion of this a while back, and I'm considering adding a residency program in that state to my list. If they did get rid of the internship, then it's worth it to me to add it.

If not, it'll have to stay on the list of bypassed states along with MI, PA, FL, and OK.

After I graduate, I'm not even going to be an AOA member, much less file a prop 42 appeal.

There are plenty of good residencies outside of the five states, and plenty of good practice opportunities. If they want to hang on to out of date regulations, its their loss.

I'm having difficulty reconciling some contradictions here:

1. You're asking about applying for West Virginia residencies - there are many things WV is known for, but GME is not one of them.
2. You want to apply to "good residencies"
3. You'd forego applying to programs in Pennsylvania and Florida (places where you'd be much more likely to actually FIND a "good residency") because you don't want to be bothered with a Resolution 42 exemption.
4. You think this is somehow sticking it to the AOA rather than shooting yourself in the foot.

Am I perceiving things incorrectly here?

 

[Old_Mil]

Am I perceiving things incorrectly here?

Yes, you are.

 

[DrWBD]

Yes, you are.

Oh, well, thanks for the eloquent clarification.

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