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So I applied to about 5 psyd programs. Got rejected by all of them. 1 interview at the wright insitute, but apparently everyone hates that school on these forums. I'm not sure what I did wrong. My GRE was average, my gpa was good, my volunteering and research was there...i had great letters of rec...what should i do? I have taken all the psych classes I can take, can't afford to take any more. Should I just move on to MSW programs?
 
So I applied to about 5 psyd programs. Got rejected by all of them. 1 interview at the wright insitute, but apparently everyone hates that school on these forums. I'm not sure what I did wrong. My GRE was average, my gpa was good, my volunteering and research was there...i had great letters of rec...what should i do? I have taken all the psych classes I can take, can't afford to take any more. Should I just move on to MSW programs?

Sorry to hear.

I remember you said that you didn't study for the GRE at all. That's one thing you can do for next time. Average GRE scores are not going to get you into a good program. Applying to 5 schools is also not sufficient. Also, I'm curious if you had people (professors, supervisors) reviewing your personal statement?

Maybe beef up your application, apply to more programs and also include MSW programs in the mix. I would imagine that it's too late for MSW admissions in April.
 
Sorry to hear.

I remember you said that you didn't study for the GRE at all. That's one thing you can do for next time. Average GRE scores are not going to get you into a good program. Applying to 5 schools is also not sufficient. Also, I'm curious if you had people (professors, supervisors) reviewing your personal statement?

Maybe beef up your application, apply to more programs and also include MSW programs in the mix. I would imagine that it's too late for MSW admissions in April.

I did find a MSW program that allows students to start in either fall or spring semester.
 
I did find a MSW program that allows students to start in either fall or spring semester.

Wow, you sound really desperate to start ANY program.

For the MSW (similar to any professional degree), you want to go to a program that has a great reputation and minimize loans. The whole 3rd tier thing never works out.

How will getting a PsyD or MSW fulfill your passion and career goals?
 
Or I could become a rapper?

You know, you could have responded to that by getting defensive, ignoring, or anything other than that that. I think you'll end up wherever you need to be with that kind of response.

+99 for awesome personality. Sometimes people just don't match up with things. They probably realized you were too smart for their programs.
 
Become religious, you just dodged 5 bullets.[/QUOTE]

LOVE IT 🙂
 
You didn't mention a personal statement. Did the PsyD schools require one? If so, was your letter geared towards working with someone, or more an "I just want to help people" letter? If not... well, see the religious comments above.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, by the way.
Why an MSW and not an MS in Psych?
Your options as I see them are take a year off and do a heck of a post-mortem on your apps to see where you can improve them; or go to a Master's program with the goal of either obtaining a terminal degree with which you can go into practice, or improving your app for the PhD application cycle in the second year of your Master's.
 
As a typical psychology SDNer, I'm just gonna say the usual response to posts like these: "Go premed."
 
As a typical psychology SDNer, I'm just gonna say the usual response to posts like these: "Go premed."
psychiatric nurse practitioner (depending on which state). seems like the best education to pay ratio in mental health with flexibility of practice. Again, it does depend on the state.
 
there's a few reasons why i'm considering the msw...i guess well the first is that i thought I was a solid applicant to psyd programs and I didn't get into the schools I wanted. At face value that just tells me that I'm not a good fit. If I was a good fit I would have been accepted or interviewed more.
Also...I work at a mental health private practice where we have psychiatrists, psych NP, and master level therapists. I was told by a few therapists to go for the MSW instead of the psyd. They said that unless I really want to do testing/assesments, the msw is better. It's shorter to get. And it's not impossible to make at least 70k as a LCSW. I dont know what to do...
 
psychiatric nurse practitioner (depending on which state). seems like the best education to pay ratio in mental health with flexibility of practice. Again, it does depend on the state.

with someone who had a bachelors in psychology, would the path be to go into a BS->BSN program and than apply to a Master's/Doctoral program for NP?
 
Edward,

Though it's diminishing over time, there's a lot of prestige to being a "clinical psychologist." There are at least a handful of great options to working in MH w/o being in clinical psychology. I'd decide what you really want. Is it the paycheck, the prestige, research, etc? Let that guide you. I have a friend who is 26 and 2 years removed from her MSW program. She's now faculty at that program and has a TT track job- the job of her dreams at four years after starting her graduate education. I dont want to be a MSW- Clincial Psych fits me perfectly.. but I gotta admit I'm jealous of that scenario and how impossible it is in our field.
 
There was a gal who worked in my last lab who was accepted into a California PsyD program. She quit within a year or two to become a rapper.

So funny. It was probably a smarter and more economically sound move.
 
with someone who had a bachelors in psychology, would the path be to go into a BS->BSN program and than apply to a Master's/Doctoral program for NP?

You'd do a direct entry psych NP program for non-nurses. Takes about 3 years to become a licensed psych NP, but you might have to spend a year or so doing prereqs and applying.
 
So I applied to about 5 psyd programs. Got rejected by all of them. 1 interview at the wright insitute, but apparently everyone hates that school on these forums. I'm not sure what I did wrong. My GRE was average, my gpa was good, my volunteering and research was there...i had great letters of rec...what should i do? I have taken all the psych classes I can take, can't afford to take any more. Should I just move on to MSW programs?

My first thought is why didn't you apply to more than 5 programs? Was it location? And why did you exclude clinical psych PhDs if you have research experience? Many PsyDs still require independent research.

If you're applying straight from undergrad, consider these rhetorical questions:

How were your interviews? Did you come across as a mature individual in the interviews who would be able to 'stomach' a client revealing their deepest darkest secrets? Were you warm, friendly, and open? Some programs thrust you into the role of therapist in the first year, so you have to come across showing good judgment, restraint, and compassion...not to mention great listening skills!

What about your personal statement? Did the opening of your PS draw intrigue and make your reader want to know more about you? Could interviewers get a flavor of your personality and what drives your ambition? Did you have others read it and provide feedback to strengthen it or was it your first or second draft? Were there any dreaded typo's?

How average were your GREs? Where they close to the minimum/cut-off scores? GREs are always a cost-effective way to make your application stronger the second time around. You can take an online course (like Kaplan) that has timed practice tests that help you pinpoint your weakest areas.

Wow, you sound really desperate to start ANY program.

For the MSW (similar to any professional degree), you want to go to a program that has a great reputation and minimize loans. The whole 3rd tier thing never works out.

How will getting a PsyD or MSW fulfill your passion and career goals?

Yes, you must consider the additional loans that you will incur while making yourself a more competitive applicant. You also have to decide if these suggestions are too tiresome (they may be for now...), but towards the end of the summer, you can pick up where you left off to focus on applying 2013-14. Some graduate schools may carry some unchanged materials over (like transcripts) if you contact them now to tell them you will reapply. Also, some (not many) DCT/graduate admissions offices will meet with you to discuss why you didn't get an interview.

As a typical psychology SDNer, I'm just gonna say the usual response to posts like these: "Go premed."

If this wasn't a joke, I disagree. Premed is another beast. And medical students are their own animals who are often obviously competitive and highly-focused. It's not a comparable alternate route unless you are focused on medical management (not therapy), super-smart and have very high scores all around (not that I'm saying you are not super smart).

I agree with the posters that have said decide how badly you want this clinical psychology career. And don't be disheartened if you don't get in the first time. Sometimes it's absolutely necessary to do 'trial run' to see if it's right for you. Sounds like you like therapy, so MSWs are a good choice because they are terminal degrees. However, if you can take a tumble or two, pick yourself up, work on your GREs, personal statement, and strengthen your overall package, then you can come back with (positive) vengeance. You only have to swallow your pride and ask your recommenders to resubmit their letters of support - but these requests often lead to constructive discussions & more advice. It 100% shows your determination, so it's never a waste of anyone's time to support someone who's earnestly trying to accomplish their goals. These programs need to see the passion and sometimes you're up against 10 or so other people who just displayed the sort of intense, mature enthusiasm that would make a good clinician.

And awesome for the volunteer work! I'd definitely find volunteer work that would provide you 'clinical' experience, like those in domestic violence or crisis counseling hotlines.

All is not lost. It's just a highly selective process and sometimes others have the right 'story' and just a little more luck than you...for that particular year. Good luck! :luck:
 
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at least you only applied to 5 programs and didn't drop 2k applying to 15 of them. 14 rejections so far, expecting the 15th any day now.

same situation here. received great feedback from all profs on my personal statement, slightly above average GRE scores, 3.6 gpa from top 30 school, research experience.

it's just a crap shoot getting in. either that or you have to have networking connections.

either reapply next year or go for MSW. You can also consider masters programs in psychology although you can't do much when you're finished with that degree. So you can add that amount of time onto whatever you will have to do after that to start your job.
 
at least you only applied to 5 programs and didn't drop 2k applying to 15 of them. 14 rejections so far, expecting the 15th any day now.

same situation here. received great feedback from all profs on my personal statement, slightly above average GRE scores, 3.6 gpa from top 30 school, research experience.

it's just a crap shoot getting in. either that or you have to have networking connections.

either reapply next year or go for MSW. You can also consider masters programs in psychology although you can't do much when you're finished with that degree. So you can add that amount of time onto whatever you will have to do after that to start your job.

Wow...that's too bad 🙁. Hopefully you learned a lot from the process and will be able to get into most of them next year. Did you get any interviews at least?
 
So I applied to about 5 psyd programs. Got rejected by all of them. 1 interview at the wright insitute, but apparently everyone hates that school on these forums. I'm not sure what I did wrong. My GRE was average, my gpa was good, my volunteering and research was there...i had great letters of rec...what should i do? I have taken all the psych classes I can take, can't afford to take any more. Should I just move on to MSW programs?

Tough break. Of course you're re-evaluating your strategy. I wonder if you went into this thing with a clear enough idea of what a career in psychology might mean for you, because from your few posts, you seem unconvinced it was worth it, and overly concerned what others would think of your choice. If this is true, the question of fit likely bit you in the behind wherever you turned.

As for what to do now? “Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive.”

― Howard Thurman
 
Wow...that's too bad 🙁. Hopefully you learned a lot from the process and will be able to get into most of them next year. Did you get any interviews at least?

0 interviews. There isn't really anything to learn from this except the amount of luck it takes, or the networking connections you have to have (which won't be any different a year from now, in fact my letters will probably be weaker since it'll be a long period of time since any of my professors have been around me). There's really no point in reapplying when it'll be nothing but another spin of the roulette wheel. As I am almost 30 I will not reapplying.
 
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