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Hi. Thank you in advance for your advice. I go to a prestigious enough school and my grades and scores are generally good. However, I have received two disciplinary notices in my first two years. I have depression and was written up for sobbing in class - no joke. I don't agree with the school's decision, but what can I do at this point? Should I try to appeal or just move on? How will this affect the match? Must I include this information? Thank you again for your suggestions.
Appeal everything you can. Get them off your record.
Hi. Thank you in advance for your advice. I go to a prestigious enough school and my grades and scores are generally good. However, I have received two disciplinary notices in my first two years. I have depression and was written up for sobbing in class - no joke. I don't agree with the school's decision, but what can I do at this point? Should I try to appeal or just move on? How will this affect the match? Must I include this information? Thank you again for your suggestions.
Thanks... I emailed the Dean to set up an appointment. I think she is sympathetic to the fact that my crying was secondary to a disease and unintended. Well, I'll just have to hope for the best then. Maybe she can help me.
Here is the full story: We have some 12-person small groups, and I was crying at the beginning of the session when the group leader walked in. She told me to go to Student Health - I did so and made an appointment. A couple days later I found out from the course director that I was being written up for "distracting the group."
That might work if someone comes to class late, but for me it just made me much more depressed. I can't believe they never asked why I was crying or tried to help. I agree it's not acceptable to be a basketcase at work but this was a one time occasion -maybe a warning or putting me in touch with services would have been more appropriate...
Now I'm afraid I don't stand a chance in the match if I even graduate at all. Don't make the mistake that I did.
But it did not effect her performance, she was just in small group (a complete waste of time btw). She passed the course, which is all she needs to be doing in the first two years. If it will affect her clinical performance that will be evaluated in third year by attendings who will have worked with her and it is their job to report on her clinical performance. So why is this small group leader who may have never even met her prior to this incident running off to file a report. It just seems like an incredibly douchy thing to do.There's something about how you used that phrase "secondary to a disease" that strikes me as incredibly wrong. Depending on the next incarnation of the DSM, almost anything could be considered a disease. Regardless of the clinical definition, the actions are the same, and as future physicians we are held to a higher standard. If someone has ADHD and has trouble concentrating, that shouldn't excuse them from paying attention to their patients. If someone is depressed and just doesn't want to go into work that day, it shouldn't excuse them from their responsibilities. If someone has an addiction and shows up to work intoxicated, it shouldn't excuse them from any mistakes they make because of it.
I know that it's a bit off topic, and it's not that I don't have empathy for your situation and think you should get appropriate treatment for it - I do - but at some point we have to take responsibility for ourselves and not pass off blame to a DSM diagnosis.
But it did not effect her performance, she was just in small group (a complete waste of time btw). She passed the course, which is all she needs to be doing in the first two years. If it will affect her clinical performance that will be evaluated in third year by attendings who will have worked with her and it is their job to report on her clinical performance. So why is this small group leader who may have never even met her prior to this incident running off to file a report. It just seems like an incredibly douchy thing to do.
Here is the full story: We have some 12-person small groups, and I was crying at the beginning of the session when the group leader walked in. She told me to go to Student Health - I did so and made an appointment. A couple days later I found out from the course director that I was being written up for "distracting the group."
That might work if someone comes to class late, but for me it just made me much more depressed. I can't believe they never asked why I was crying or tried to help. I agree it's not acceptable to be a basketcase at work but this was a one time occasion -maybe a warning or putting me in touch with services would have been more appropriate...
Now I'm afraid I don't stand a chance in the match if I even graduate at all. Don't make the mistake that I did.
Yeah, i can see some lawyer bringing this up 20 years from now in a malpractice trial if its still on your record.
wait.. can you elaborate please?Won't even take 20 years to affect you. I just got some papers from my residency program specifically asking about past discretionary behavior in med school, life, etc. They want forms on EVERYTHING!
wait.. can you elaborate please?