Discouraged because of courses

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Sometimes I just feel dumb because everyone in my class is doing better than me but when I actually have a conversation with these people, they don't know their ass from their hand. I just got a D on a test everyone else got a B on. Maybe I didn't study enough or so on. But is any of this undergrad information going to make me a bad vet if I get into vet school and don't understand it? I feel like if I don't understand every aspect of chemistry and physics I'm going to be a bad vet. I mean it's not that difficult, I can do it then I choke on the tests. I guess I'm just asking current vets if you maybe didn't do as well in chem or physics but it didn't really matter in the long run? Thanks.
 
I hated chem. Think there was only 1 semester of 4 where I got above a C. You don't need to know everything. If this is a common occurrence, you should talk to a counselor about test anxiety. Also, for the love of god stop comparing yourself to everyone else.
 
If I'm supposed to remember every aspect of physics and chemistry, I'm an impressively horrible vet. Got a long line of Bs and couple Cs in those courses, hasn't ruined me yet. 🙂
 
I had this grievance in physics. Always really understood that material but come quiz and test day, lol.

You need to find a system that works for you. It could be different for different courses. For physics, my saving grace was group study. If I taught others the material and we solved problems together, it helped my confidence going into the test. Maybe that will work for you, maybe tutoring, maybe something else.

I had bad anxiety, to include testing trouble, through undergrad and it wasn't until the very end (like not even a month before graduation) that I finally stopped trying to act like it didn't exist and got help. And I am so glad I did before entering vet school so I could get some coping mechanisms instead of some ignorance ones. Shoving self care on the back burner doesn't work forever. Please, take that time for yourself.
 
I got a C in chem 1, I just didn't want a repeat I guess. I know I shouldn't compare, it's a bad habit. I appreciate all of your replies, it really helps to know not everyone loves chem and physics. One vet I shadowed told me that if I wasn't doing well in these lower level classes and I didn't like the material, I'd hate vet school. It just gets me down when everyone around me is doing well without studying and I'm studying a lot and still get a lower grade. But you all are beyond right, I have to work on comparing myself. It'll take awhile, but starting is important. Sometimes I'm just sitting in class thinking "why is the relevant, when will I ever use this?" But i just have to quickly snap out of it and know it's just a step to get to where I want to be.
 
I got a C in chem 1, I just didn't want a repeat I guess. I know I shouldn't compare, it's a bad habit. I appreciate all of your replies, it really helps to know not everyone loves chem and physics. One vet I shadowed told me that if I wasn't doing well in these lower level classes and I didn't like the material, I'd hate vet school. It just gets me down when everyone around me is doing well without studying and I'm studying a lot and still get a lower grade. But you all are beyond right, I have to work on comparing myself. It'll take awhile, but starting is important. Sometimes I'm just sitting in class thinking "why is the relevant, when will I ever use this?" But i just have to quickly snap out of it and know it's just a step to get to where I want to be.
Couple things:
  • I would avoid making assumptions about people's study habits, some people may study a lot and just never mention it or you never see it. Doesn't mean they necessarily put in less effort into the course
  • It doesn't matter how long you study, it matters if you study effectively. What's effective is different from person to person but I promise you that 1 hour of effective studying is worth at least 5 of ineffective studying.
  • These courses are difficult for just about everybody, I bet if you talk to some more classmates you'd find others having similar issues to yourself
  • The professor probably deals with these issues all the time and can point you in the right direction for effectively learning the material. I recommend talking to them about it
Best of luck with your chemistry class!
 
I got a C in chem 1, I just didn't want a repeat I guess. I know I shouldn't compare, it's a bad habit. I appreciate all of your replies, it really helps to know not everyone loves chem and physics. One vet I shadowed told me that if I wasn't doing well in these lower level classes and I didn't like the material, I'd hate vet school. It just gets me down when everyone around me is doing well without studying and I'm studying a lot and still get a lower grade. But you all are beyond right, I have to work on comparing myself. It'll take awhile, but starting is important. Sometimes I'm just sitting in class thinking "why is the relevant, when will I ever use this?" But i just have to quickly snap out of it and know it's just a step to get to where I want to be.
Oh, also, that vet is full of :bullcrap:

Everyone with a soul hates chemistry.
 
I actually do too, I just also never claimed to have a soul. 😉
Oh, I have a soul.

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Lupin is doing a DVM/PhD. That automatically means she is soul-less as well 🙂

Does doing a DVM/PhD mean you have no soul? Or do you start out with one and lose it as you go through the degrees? Trying to figure out if I have one or not...
 
Don't get discouraged. I despised chemistry, especially general chem. I made C's in both semesters of general chem, a B in Organic 1, a B- in Organic 2 and a B in organic lab. I still got accepted to vet school.
 
Couple things:
  • I would avoid making assumptions about people's study habits, some people may study a lot and just never mention it or you never see it. Doesn't mean they necessarily put in less effort into the course
  • It doesn't matter how long you study, it matters if you study effectively. What's effective is different from person to person but I promise you that 1 hour of effective studying is worth at least 5 of ineffective studying.
  • These courses are difficult for just about everybody, I bet if you talk to some more classmates you'd find others having similar issues to yourself
  • The professor probably deals with these issues all the time and can point you in the right direction for effectively learning the material. I recommend talking to them about it
Best of luck with your chemistry class!
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You have no idea what your classmates do when you're not around, and it's really not your business. To say they don't actually know anything but are still mysteriously doing better than you sounds like you feel pretty entitled to earn the same grades just because you think they don't understand the material just like you don't. They earned those grades, even if you were under the impression (or assumption....) that they "don't know their ass from their hand."

You also may be making them uncomfortable by asking these types of questions/having these types of conversations, so they try to dodge the topic by saying they're confused too. It seems like students that do well feel ashamed when they find out their friends aren't doing as well, and that shouldn't be happening. Don't be that friend, seriously. I've had friends get legitimately mad at me because I did well on an exam they didn't. It's stupid and shouldn't even happen, but it does. I've been on the other end of it too, none of us are perfect. I've had the same convos with classmates and had the same frustrations, but you have to know that you can't be angry/frustrated with someone who is doing better than you. It's not going to be of any benefit to you.

If you need help, approach your professor or your campus learning/tutoring services. I was surprised to find out that some of my professors were actually happy to sit down with me and go over an entire exam. Ask for help on how to actually study, and if you feel you need more professional help, don't be afraid to seek it out. See if any of these friends are willing to start a study group, too. I know that I actually do well in study groups if everyone is supportive and we all are able to bring something to the table.

Anyways, good luck! Undergrad can really suck sometimes, but keep chugging along and do not hesitate or wait too long to seek out assistance.
 
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I've had some similar experiences to @pinkpuppy9. People have actually told me they want to punch me in the face (jokingly) because I did really well on a test they felt they should have done better and I should have done worse. All because they studied for X many hours, sacrificed X, and I didn't. Don't be that person.

Best advice I have for you: Stop sharing grades. Stop talking about your grades. It will change your life.

Second best: If your struggling, you should re-evaluate how you study. That may be the issue.

Third: Multiple choice tests are not always an indicator of how smart someone is. Try to remember that. If you're choking on tests you should really talk to someone about it, most schools have accommodations for people who have really bad test anxiety etc.

Any information you need to know form your undergrad they will teach you in vet school. Not everyone has the same degree going in. We have an arts major in our class who only took the minimum number of science courses required to get in. She's doing just fine as far as I know (she's made it to second year, thats really all I know about her grades). So I wouldn't worry to much if your struggling during your undergrad courses. I took a bunch of courses in undergrad *cough* immunology *cough* that I hated, until vet school, when we started looking at immunology in the context of vet med.

PS. I only got ~60% in physics and chem in my undergrad and I've forgotten that 60% of information I did learn 😉
 
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