DISCUSS: New DO schools...

[friedchickencurry]

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At my school, we've been able to dodge that bullet. BUT, other schools are already having to do that.

There's a point where the kids with such lower stats will either:
A) struggle in med school
B) and/or fail out of med school
C) and/or fail COMLEX

Once you go below 500 on the MCAT, it's not good for success.

Also, as of right now, we're seeing schools that do NOT fill their classes, especially the newest ones.

Do you guys see medicine heading down the same path as law/pharmacy or are board exams/residency overall a big enough filter to prevent that from happening?

I believe that the MD world can avoid this trap, but not the DO world. At some point, the accreditors will step in and force schools to reduce their class sizes, or In'sha Allah, close the weakest schools.

What are your thoughts on implementing a "step 2 style" scoring system for the MCAT, where you still get a numerical score but must achieve a passing score (say 500) to qualify for matriculation into medical school?

 

[Goro]

What are your thoughts on implementing a "step 2 style" scoring system for the MCAT, where you still get a numerical score but must achieve a passing score (say 500) to qualify for matriculation into medical school?

If medical schools can see the score what's the point? I agree that 500 should be a baseline for all medical school admissions, last one that has done a special Masters program

 

[Ho0v-man]

At my school, we've been able to dodge that bullet. BUT, other schools are already having to do that.

There's a point where the kids with such lower stats will either:
A) struggle in med school
B) and/or fail out of med school
C) and/or fail COMLEX

Once you go below 500 on the MCAT, it's not good for success.

Also, as of right now, we're seeing schools that do NOT fill their classes, especially the newest ones.

Do you guys see medicine heading down the same path as law/pharmacy or are board exams/residency overall a big enough filter to prevent that from happening?

I believe that the MD world can avoid this trap, but not the DO world. At some point, the accreditors will step in and force schools to reduce their class sizes, or In'sha Allah, close the weakest schools.

Not holding my breath. You’d know better than me of course so correct me if I’m wrong. But I don’t think that COCA has ever closed a school. I think it’s had class sizes reduced and at least indirectly caused some admin at underperforming schools to turnover.

But they still rubber stamp every VCOM and Touro distant metastasis—I mean innovative institution of medical education that sets up in the middle of nowhere with no plan for clinical rotations.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

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[Mr.Smile12]

Xavier University medical school advances to next stage of accreditation - Xavier Now | Xavier University Xavier University medical school advances to next stage of accreditation

 

[Mr.Smile12]

D'Youville is open for applications!

D’Youville University Approved to Enroll Students in New College of Medicine | DYouville

D’Youville

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[dochopeful2025]

D'Youville is open for applications!

D’Youville University Approved to Enroll Students in New College of Medicine | DYouville

D’Youville

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501 mcat recommended for a brand new school 🤯

 

[Obnoxious Dad]

501 mcat recommended for a brand new school 🤯

That is the reality these days. We've reached DO saturation. The average MCAT score among DO matriculants has been dropping for the past three years. The average is now 502.97. You can bet there are a bunch of people who got in with MCATs below 500.

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aacom.org%2Fdocs%2Fdefault-source%2Fresearch-reports%2Fapplicant-and-matriculant-average-mcat-2016-2024.xlsx%3Fsfvrsn%3D4fbf4377_9&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK

 

[Obnoxious Dad]

Xavier University medical school advances to next stage of accreditation - Xavier Now | Xavier University Xavier University medical school advances to next stage of accreditation

I'm astonished that Xavier is getting into this game. Ohio already has a relatively cheap, well regarded and huge osteopathic medical school at Ohio University. For Ohio residents the tuition is just over $42,000 per year. To be a competitive applicant at Ohio U, you only need an MCAT of 504. This is crazy. How will Xavier attract capable students?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

I'm astonished that Xavier is getting into this game. Ohio already has a relatively cheap, well regarded and huge osteopathic medical school at Ohio University. For Ohio residents the tuition is just over $42,000 per year. To be a competitive applicant at Ohio U, you only need an MCAT of 504. This is crazy. How will Xavier attract capable students?

I'm not sure either, but Cincinnati is close to Kentucky and Indiana, so maybe sweep up people who didn't get into Pikeville or Marian??? I think they have done well on their own with health care training, even with UC in their neighborhood.

 

[Obnoxious Dad]

I'm not sure either, but Cincinnati is close to Kentucky and Indiana, so maybe sweep up people who didn't get into Pikeville or Marian??? I think they have done well on their own with health care training, even with UC in their neighborhood.

Pikeville? What do you think the average MCAT score is at Pikeville? Is it even 501? A hospital administration program and a good nursing school at Xavier won't mean much to applicants. I can't wait to see the tuition at Xavier.