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I was in the process of completing my first year of masters program that is linked to a medical school when I ended up failing a course. This resulted in me getting dismissed from the program even though all my other grades were well. I also interviewed for the medical school and am on the top tier of the waiting list. I felt like I was very close to being accepted had it not been for failing that one course (you needed a 70 to pass, I got a 67.5). Can anyone offer advice on what my next steps should be? I feel like this is a very unique situation and I'm not sure how to handle it.
I can't sugar coat this. Find a different career.I was in the process of completing my first year of masters program that is linked to a medical school when I ended up failing a course. This resulted in me getting dismissed from the program even though all my other grades were well. I also interviewed for the medical school and am on the top tier of the waiting list. I felt like I was very close to being accepted had it not been for failing that one course (you needed a 70 to pass, I got a 67.5). Can anyone offer advice on what my next steps should be? I feel like this is a very unique situation and I'm not sure how to handle it.
On the note of SMPs how much does a good performance in one negate an underwhelming uGPA?
Very much, if not all of it.
Tulane ACLP, will be attending Tulane SOM in the Fall. this time last year i had a 3.06 sGPA lol
It depends upon the school. There are some that reward reinvention, and others that don't.On the note of SMPs how much does a good performance in one negate an underwhelming uGPA?
Tip my hat to you good sir; mind asking mcat score; also how hard was the smp relative to what you thought prior to going in (going from 3.06 sgpa to what I assume 3.5+ takes a lot of self awareness)
Do you know what they had to do to be allowed the chance to do another SMP?I know of one person who was in an SMP linked with a DO school, failed a class, got booted out, did anouther SMP linkage, made the grade (had to retake the MCAT) and got accepted. It does happen, but you got to be realistic with yourself.
My concern is that this dismissal is going to ruin my chances of getting accepted into any other programEven if you are accepted, your life would be hell. You would have to work 2x, 3x, 4x the amount of effort that your classmates have to work, and from personal experience, it absolutely sucks. Everyone (>95%) works hard in medical school, so imagine spending 15+ hours every! single! day! seven! day! per! week! just to pass your classes. Could you personally do it? Maybe, but your physical and mental health would be in a very bad place. If you're dead set on a career in the healthcare field, there's plenty of other great options.
How were your other grades? How many As vs Bs vs Cs? In Fall and Spring semester?I had a medical reason that led me to do poorly in this class and by the time I figured out what was going on, it was too late for this one specific course because there weren't enough points left in the semester to salvage the class. I was however able to improve my grade in other classes because there was still points available
In a bind. Need advice.
Here is a link about a person who was in a similar situation. Read the entire thread.
See if you can re-mediate the grade over the summer and if it could replace your failing grade. If you have money, you can look into similar SMPs and re-take one somewhere else but you cannot mess it up. I believe several osteopathic schools have an SMP program but without linkage.I was in the process of completing my first year of masters program that is linked to a medical school when I ended up failing a course. This resulted in me getting dismissed from the program even though all my other grades were well. I also interviewed for the medical school and am on the top tier of the waiting list. I felt like I was very close to being accepted had it not been for failing that one course (you needed a 70 to pass, I got a 67.5). Can anyone offer advice on what my next steps should be? I feel like this is a very unique situation and I'm not sure how to handle it.
They gave me a week to retake the entire semester's worth of the class but I was still dealing with the same problems that led to me originally failing so when i retook my test i ended up missing two more questions than allowed.I would talk to admissions, see if you can retake the class and re-apply. This happened to someone at my DO school and they were competent and matched well.
Is it normal for a school to give you essentially 1 week to remediate a whole semester's worth of a class? Also my concern is that other SMP's will not consider me due to the dismissal on my transcript. It feels like the end for me.See if you can re-mediate the grade over the summer and if it could replace your failing grade. If you have money, you can look into similar SMPs and re-take one somewhere else but you cannot mess it up. I believe several osteopathic schools have an SMP program but without linkage.
Unfortunately this school does not allow that to happen very easily. I could easily repeat the course next year and I am also okay with repeating the entire first year but I had to write an appeals letter to the Dean and have yet heard back. From what I gathered from my school advisor, once you're dismissed, you're done.I would talk to admissions, see if you can retake the class and re-apply. This happened to someone at my DO school and they were competent and matched well.
What is plan B?They gave me a week to retake the entire semester's worth of the class but I was still dealing with the same problems that led to me originally failing so when i retook my test i ended up missing two more questions than allowed.
First semester was 3 B's and a C. My second semester was an A, a B, a C and than the failing class (D)How were your other grades? How many As vs Bs vs Cs? In Fall and Spring semester?
Why were you getting C's and then a D? What was the medical issue?First semester was 3 B's and a C. My second semester was an A, a B, a C and than the failing class (D)
I was having a respiratory problem for the past 6 months that is finally being looked at now after having gone to a specialist (my PCP was trying to label it as allergies when it was so much more, there were days I couldn't function because I was having so much trouble breathing) on top of being treated for anxiety with medication that was giving me a lot of negative side effects on topWhy were you getting C's and then a D? What was the medical issue?
Click and read the link in post# 21.
In a bind. Need advice.
Here is a link about a person who was in a similar situation. Read the entire thread.
I actually just went and read all this. The only problem with me is that my school chose to dismiss me rather than me leaving on my own and withdrawing. That being on my transcript makes it really difficult to even be considered by other schools/post bac'sClick and read the whole thing so you can figure out your next steps.
I actually just went and read all this. The only problem with me is that my school chose to dismiss me rather than me leaving on my own and withdrawing. That being on my transcript makes it really difficult to even be considered by other schools/post bac's
I can't sugar coat this: Your medical career is over. You had your best chance at an audition for med school, and it's simply not enough, health issues or not.First semester was 3 B's and a C. My second semester was an A, a B, a C and than the failing class (D)
Is it normal for a school to give you essentially 1 week to remediate a whole semester's worth of a class? Also my concern is that other SMP's will not consider me due to the dismissal on my transcript. It feels like the end for me.
Having a week to remediate a failed class is not atypical, it is pretty common at many medical schools (fail a class, have a week to study for an exam and then take a single exam to pass). Given your medical issues why did you not seek a medical LOA? I know this is besides the point now, but if your SMP isn't malignant they should have recognized this and allowed you to repeat when you were in better health. If you chose not to then it is a sign of poor decision making. That combined with your mediocre master's transcript (as previously stated, you should be getting mostly A's) is pretty much going to kill any chances you've got in the next year or two.
You've got 3 realistic options (assuming you can't appeal this decision, which it sounds like you can't):
1. Apply to other SMPs with linkages and explain what happened. In this case you'll have to hope they give you a lot of leeway and are willing to take that risk. If you don't perform there, frankly you're screwed. If you fail or under-perform it will have just been more wasted time and money. It may be that even if you are successful in the program, but you'd be able to say you tried.
2. Take a couple of years, work (preferably at a medically related job), and reapply to an SMP in 3-5 years as a "fresh" applicant. This will give you time to sort out your medical issues, get some real world experience, do some volunteering/get involved in the medical world, and save up some money. Imo this is the most realistic option if you're dead set on becoming a physician. Not everyone gets to take a direct route (I certainly didn't), but if you really want it then you'll put in the work to prove you deserve it.
3. Move on and find another career. There's nothing wrong with taking another path and there are plenty of other careers that are just as fulfilling and rewarding as being a physician. Additionally, at some point it become a better option to cut your losses and move on. Only you can decide if you're at that point in your life or if you should keep pushing, but staying realistic is also important.
Only you can really decide what to do and what your next steps are going to be. You should be realistic with yourself about what your weaknesses and capabilities are though and not just make decisions based on what you want. Best of luck with whatever choice you make, because it's not any easy one.
Thanks! I have already started looking for jobs.This is not the end of the world and I know its very easy to say but please fix your issue what you have and may be take some time off from school or a gap year then go back to do SMP at another school. I'm sure you will rise. Just get the advice from here and do the best what you feel like it. People will give you their opinion but at the end of the day you need to decide what is best for you.
All the best!!!
Having a week to remediate a failed class is not atypical, it is pretty common at many medical schools (fail a class, have a week to study for an exam and then take a single exam to pass). Given your medical issues why did you not seek a medical LOA? I know this is besides the point now, but if your SMP isn't malignant they should have recognized this and allowed you to repeat when you were in better health. If you chose not to then it is a sign of poor decision making. That combined with your mediocre master's transcript (as previously stated, you should be getting mostly A's) is pretty much going to kill any chances you've got in the next year or two.
You've got 3 realistic options (assuming you can't appeal this decision, which it sounds like you can't):
1. Apply to other SMPs with linkages and explain what happened. In this case you'll have to hope they give you a lot of leeway and are willing to take that risk. If you don't perform there, frankly you're screwed. If you fail or under-perform it will have just been more wasted time and money. It may be that even if you are successful in the program, but you'd be able to say you tried.
2. Take a couple of years, work (preferably at a medically related job), and reapply to an SMP in 3-5 years as a "fresh" applicant. This will give you time to sort out your medical issues, get some real world experience, do some volunteering/get involved in the medical world, and save up some money. Imo this is the most realistic option if you're dead set on becoming a physician. Not everyone gets to take a direct route (I certainly didn't), but if you really want it then you'll put in the work to prove you deserve it.
3. Move on and find another career. There's nothing wrong with taking another path and there are plenty of other careers that are just as fulfilling and rewarding as being a physician. Additionally, at some point it become a better option to cut your losses and move on. Only you can decide if you're at that point in your life or if you should keep pushing, but staying realistic is also important.
Only you can really decide what to do and what your next steps are going to be. You should be realistic with yourself about what your weaknesses and capabilities are though and not just make decisions based on what you want. Best of luck with whatever choice you make, because it's not any easy one.
Also I did not take a medical leave of absence because my primary care kept on assuring me it was just allergies and that seems like not something people take medical LOA for. It wasn't until after the semester ended and I saw specialist and got x-rays done where I found out it wasn't just allergies. Im still seeing my specialist to figure out what is exactly going on causing my symptoms. A similar thing happened with a girl in our class earlier in the year. She having symptoms that the school clinic diagnosed as depression/anxiety so they just kept pushing pills on her. She eventually withdrew really early on because her grades were bad and a month later she was diagnosed with something serious and had to get surgery. Almost a year later, she is still recovering. When she informed the school of this, they did not respond to her emails and she has yet to hear back from them so it seems like the school is not very sympathetic.
I used to sit in class and meetings with my advisors with constant drainage for the entire second semester and would often have to leave class to use my inhaler because I wasn't able to breathe. Even my classmates noticed this. I explained this to my advisor in the beginning of the semester and told her about it but she also seemed to just relate it to allergies so she didn't really pay any mind to it. Imagine sitting in class every single day and having to focus when you can't breathe. No one was taking me seriously so I just chose to live it. I was convinced it was allergies and would just go away, I did not think it would be something I would still be dealing with.
I'm sorry to hear about all of this. It sounds a bit like your program isn't very forgiving of it's students and that they have a certain set of priorities. Idk if I'd necessarily call it malignant, but they certainly don't sound like they're doing their students any favors.
This actually illustrates a point that I think gets skimmed over a lot when people are choosing schools to attend or programs to enter, and that is how do they treat their students during times of stress. Most medical schools will do whatever they can to ensure their students don't fail out, the same can't be said for UG or master's programs. For others out there looking into master's or SMP programs, try and talk to people in the program or alumni to find out what resources are available to students and what happens when students have personal issues come up. It can be difficult to find out, but if you can it can make a huge difference if an actual emergency or stressful situation comes up.
Why would an SMP care to cater to a failing student when they have ten more lined up waiting to take a med school spot and who dont need to be hand holded and who got the scores needed?
My class had about 50 people starting out. 42 after the first semester. After the second semester only 5 people got into the medical schoolBecause when students start an SMP and don't get into med school or some other grad school (dental, vet, etc) it reflects poorly on the program. Even a small number of people not making it can look really bad unless the program is large (if 4 out of 100 don't make it it's not an issue, if 4 out of 30 don't make it that's actually not the best sign). If the students straight up can't cut it, that's one thing. If students have a medical issue and the school isn't supportive, that's a red flag imo. I say that as someone who just finished medical school and matched into a solid program after taking a medical LOA during grad school.
Jesus what smp was itMy class had about 50 people starting out. 42 after the first semester. After the second semester only 5 people got into the medical school
My class had about 50 people starting out. 42 after the first semester. After the second semester only 5 people got into the medical school
When I applied, their class size was only 20 and people were matriculating into the medical school succesfully . The first class size was about 10 and about 8 students got in but they have been increasing the class size every year so I was assuming I was going into a program with about 20 students not 50.I amend what I said, that's a straight up malignant program and I'm sorry to say it sounds like you were almost doomed from the start there. Were you aware of those stats when starting? Because in all honesty this if this were a med school this would make the Caribbean schools look like the Ivy league. Sorry if that's harsh, I hope things work out one way or the other though.
Based on OP's post history, I believe it's Touro-NY Masters program.Jesus what smp was it
Jesus what smp was it
If you don't mind me asking, how were you able to afford the tuition since it doesn't qualify for federal aid. Sorry if this is too person. We have a certification program near me but I cannot afford to pay 10000 out of pocket plus other living expenses.Very much, if not all of it.
Tulane ACLP, will be attending Tulane SOM in the Fall. this time last year i had a 3.06 sGPA lol