Dismissed from fellowship and in appeal process.

[DIANA2017]

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[rokshana]

Should I email the PD to apologize, and the other MD involved or write a post mail-delivered letter. Or use the appeal process to start the apologies. TO bee honest I have already written an apology letter by email and he seemed opened to it. He had been extremely supportive and extremely forgiving until a life event led me to become attitudy, confrontational at times I must admit and things spiraled out of control over a period of 2 weeks by his own admission. Even at dismissal meeting, he said "this could be a blessing in disguise, I hope this helps for your future". Granted, I was heartbroken and he was trying to comfort me after essentially firing me. this was more a diplomatic gesture. He was my mentor and my adviser. We had a great rapport till I rub the wrong person the wrong way and he was set up to straightnen things out but I reacted the wrong way, defensive. A simple sorry, I won't mess up again would have saved my neck. But I was in my own serious personal issue and lost insight. I do not think I can or will be forgiven. Plus there is a serious ongoing bully situation with my co-fellow I don't want to relive. The smartass and very efficient fellow was remediated trough HR for " obscenities", behaved for a few weeks, but quickly regained his old ways; this made me resentful that he was bullying me with their blessing and nothing was done. I became isolated. I seriously messed up and I need serious advice here. Should I send separate apologies to the attending I think I most likely offended-was not the PD but she inflamed him against me and I am all but screwed up-. I wishI had found this place before, I would have gotten insight into "the situation" and would have quickly made amends. Now I am sad, depressed, sleepless and desperate.

if your PD is supportive of you, then have him write a LoR for you ...or better yet call some places to have you be able to transfer over...nephrology should have plenty of places that are unfilled.

however, your story is incomplete...unless you did something really really unforgivable, no one is fired after only a couple of weeks.

you need to give us more info on your situation for people to be able to give you more precise advice.

 

[DIANA2017]

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[DIANA2017]

Every advice is being taken into account. Very one agrees that Reinstatement chances are slim to none, like 0.1%. HR said it has never ever happened in the past. Should I just cancel it?

 

[anonperson]

We have a junior attending who is the brightest in her sub-subspecialty but not in PD. She instructed me to put some orders in a way completely different from everything I know; since nurses were paging like crazy, i went back to the standard order. She disagreed with a consult -previous consult was done by me and another attending; presentation was same. I had already copied previous A/P with usual modifications; team was there i discussed with them. when she came she denied my A/P. Damage was done; I told the team to get rid of A/P, because attending supersedes fellow. but they liked it and added it to their A/P. Errata: PD was supportive, in the past, but turned against me in these last 2 weeks. I wish I had never crossed that lady's path...

Story doesn't make sense.

Your attending had you put in some non standard orders and it has snowballed into you being fired?

There is more to the story. Up to you if you want to post it but without details hard to give decent advice.

 

[Crayola227]

all I can think is that this was a gathering storm; there were issues, some of which you hadn't been totally aware most likely, and they were just biding their time to out you

for them to out you over something like this - there was more, you wouldn't fire a fellow you really wanted to keep and remediate over this, that's why we're convinced there's more

the fact that you weren't made aware or given the chance to fix this (if that is accurate) *really* means this is unfixable

 

[PlutoBoy]

Hmm... lot of people getting fired lately.

I'm sorry, Diana.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Hmm... lot of people getting fired lately.

I'm sorry, Diana.

Only half or so were real though

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Should I email the PD to apologize, and the other MD involved or write a post mail-delivered letter. Or use the appeal process to start the apologies. TO bee honest I have already written an apology letter by email and he seemed opened to it. He had been extremely supportive and extremely forgiving until a life event led me to become attitudy, confrontational at times I must admit and things spiraled out of control over a period of 2 weeks by his own admission. Even at dismissal meeting, he said "this could be a blessing in disguise, I hope this helps for your future". Granted, I was heartbroken and he was trying to comfort me after essentially firing me. this was more a diplomatic gesture. He was my mentor and my adviser. We had a great rapport till I rub the wrong person the wrong way and he was set up to straightnen things out but I reacted the wrong way, defensive. A simple sorry, I won't mess up again would have saved my neck. But I was in my own serious personal issue and lost insight. I do not think I can or will be forgiven. Plus there is a serious ongoing bully situation with my co-fellow I don't want to relive. The smartass and very efficient fellow was remediated trough HR for " obscenities", behaved for a few weeks, but quickly regained his old ways; this made me resentful that he was bullying me with their blessing and nothing was done. I became isolated. I seriously messed up and I need serious advice here. Should I send separate apologies to the attending I think I most likely offended-was not the PD but she inflamed him against me and I am all but screwed up-. I wishI had found this place before, I would have gotten insight into "the situation" and would have quickly made amends. Now I am sad, depressed, sleepless and desperate.

Your posts are extremely disjointed and hard to follow. It’s almost like you’re starting us out mid story without the relevant background.

Can you try to explain in a stepwise chronological fashion what happened and what specific questions you have? It might aid in getting some more helpful responses

 

[Gastrapathy]

Paragraphs. Please.

Seems likely this is fake.

 

[Donald Juan]

Your posts are extremely disjointed and hard to follow. It’s almost like you’re starting us out mid story without the relevant background.

Can you try to explain in a stepwise chronological fashion what happened and what specific questions you have? It might aid in getting some more helpful responses

This. All long posts like this need to start with a summary statement, i.e.: "I'm a 30 y/o WF PGY4 in an IM subspecialty fellowship s/p suspension 2 weeks prior, now looking for advice on what to do."

 

[geripalgal]

Agree!
... sure hope the OP's case presentations are easier to follow!

 

[AdmiralChz]

This. All long posts like this need to start with a summary statement, i.e.: "I'm a 30 y/o WF PGY4 in an IM subspecialty fellowship s/p suspension 2 weeks prior, now looking for advice on what to do."

Come on at least have 3-4 pages of old background data above the summary which no one looks at!

What’s with all these (likely) fake dismissal threads? It’s not really disruptive, but such a weird thing to troll about. At least troll about an inflammatory topic like specialty superiority, politics (having an issue with that in the Anesthesia sub forum), being a bad a$$, or bashing training programs. Cmon man!

 

[ThoracicGuy]

Come on at least have 3-4 pages of old background data above the summary which no one looks at!

What’s with all these (likely) fake dismissal threads? It’s not really disruptive, but such a weird thing to troll about. At least troll about an inflammatory topic like specialty superiority, politics (having an issue with that in the Anesthesia sub forum), being a bad a$$, or bashing training programs. Cmon man!

What we really need are some nursing notes about it.

 

[Goro]

What we really need are some nursing notes about it.

I'm glad I finished drinking my tea, because I would have spit it out all over my keyboard laughing at your post!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[akwho]

What we really need are some nursing notes about it.

They have highlighted yellow sticky notes all over the nursing computers at our hospital that say, "if you didn't chart it, it didn't happen. 🙂"

Very Orwellian.

 

[gutonc]

This thread has very clearly gone off topic. Closing.

 

[Winged Scapula]

BTW this one is not fake.