DNR and intubation

[Northerncardinal]

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Does DNR include intubation?

What's the role of DNI status? does it mean we can't intubate the patient in any situation even if it's part of resuscitative efforts?

 

[Mad Jack]

DNR and DNI orders are separate. A DNI order prevents intubation for anything but temporary measures, such as someone going in for surgery that will be extubated afterward, but even that should be clarified prior to operating. A DNR order by itself does not prevent intubation at all, so long as the patient has a pulse.

 

[Northerncardinal]

DNR and DNI orders are separate. A DNI order prevents intubation for anything but temporary measures, such as someone going in for surgery that will be extubated afterward, but even that should be clarified prior to operating. A DNR order by itself does not prevent intubation at all, so long as the patient has a pulse.

If a patient is DNR only, then we can't intubate if intubation is part of the resuscitative protocol. Is this right??

 

[Mad Jack]

If a patient is DNR only, then we can't intubate if intubation is part of the resuscitative protocol. Is this right??

No. You can't intubate if the primary purpose is resuscitation. All other intubations are fine