Do all anesthesia applicants match?

[greenbluedaisy]

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[Stellar Clouds]

Check out the NRMP's charting outcomes

It will probably help you more than anything.

 

[etudiante04]

It appears as though American medical grads (still in school) fare better in the match than those who have already graduated, but that is likely the case for any specialty.

 

[greenbluedaisy]

Thanks for the advice

 

[Dral]

I'd say it depends on what field you are trying to match into. At this point, any interview you would get would be because of someone else canceling. This means that you are already not in their top tier.

If you're trying for something like FM or IM where there are a decent number of positions left after the match, then you might score a spot through SOAP.

Unfortunately, medical leave can sometimes count as a strike against someone...let alone a failed step 2 during that time. Is there anything else outstanding on your app?

If you're trying for something more competitive, then I'd say you should be formulating a plan B, if you haven't started to do so already. What plan B consists of is what you feel like you should do in the end...we can only give suggestions here.

Edit: It looks like you're interested in Ophtho or Gas? I'm guessing all your apps were to Anesthesia programs?

 

[peppy]

Sorry to hear that you've had a rough time of things.
Have you retaken Step 2 yet? If you have a passing score to show, that'll help a lot in SOAP.

 

[pooh86]

1. Retake step 2 if you haven't done so already.
2. SOAP into a less competitive field if there's one that you're ok with
3. Talk to your current advisor/PD/Dean and see if anyone can make some calls for you to programs that you haven't heard from.
4. Don't give up hope!

 

[Winged Scapula]

More specifically, do all american medical grads applying into anesthesia match? My only red flag is that I took off two years between my third and fourth year due to being on medical leave. There are so many unfilled positions! My chair said everyone matches, but I guess I'm just getting nervous.

Perhaps I'm confused but here you state you took a *year* off (not two), and that you failed Step 2.

I would venture that failing Step 2 and applying without a passing grade into a moderately competitive field such as Anesthesiology, is more likely the reason for your failure to obtain interviews than medical leave.

In answer to your question, all AMGs do not match especially if there are red flags. As you can see from NRMP Charting Outcomes, last year there were 1177 AMGs applying for 919 positions in Anesthesia; 725 AMG seniors matched for a match rate of 78.9%.

 

[deleted307836]

In answer to your question, all AMGs do not match especially if there are red flags. As you can see from NRMP Charting Outcomes, last year there were 1177 AMGs applying for 919 positions in Anesthesia; 725 AMG seniors matched for a match rate of 78.9%.

According to that document, it looks like 919 PGY-1 positions were offered in the match, of which 725 were filled with US grads, and 897 were filled total. Including PGY-1 and PGY-2 positions, 1,476 were offered; 826 US grads who only ranked anesthesia matched into these spots. 16 who only ranked anesthesia did not match for an unmatched rate of 1.9%. That's much more optimistic than a 78.9% match rate 🙂. Please tell me if I'm interpreting that incorrectly.

Edit - Just to add it looks like the 1,177 applicants number also includes individuals who ranked anesthesia as a second choice which may be misleading.

 

[Ipassgas]

Kinda, sorta. 1.9% of people who ONLY ranked anesthesiology (integrated 4 year programs), didn't match. How many people only wanted anesthesiology, matched into a prelim year, and didn't match into an advanced (pgy 2) position? Matching like that is matching, but would be like winning 10¢ in the lottery.

 

[Winged Scapula]

You guys are right that there are multiple ways of interpreting the data; I rather think that anesthesia is a harder match than only 1.9% of AMGs don't get a spot, but I could be mistaken. PGY-1 only includes integrated programs, and not the advanced positions. The OP talks about "tons" of open positions, I don't see that reflected in the data.

The point of contention/query at hand is why the OP didn't match. I venture that most would agree with me that its not related to the difficulty of the match in anesthesia for the average applicant but rather her failing Step 2 and taking 2 years off.

 

[IlDestriero]

My understanding is that 96% of US seniors match and 50% of "other" candidates match. It's certainly not the most competitive field, if you can get enough interviews. I think many people self select out of applying though. The mean step 1 was 226 and step 2 was 235. Mean unmatched was about 209 for both.
Failing step 2 is a giant red flag.
Anesthesia is applied critical care, and can be quite stressful at times requiring immediate critical thinking and simultaneous action. It doesn't tolerate errors well either. Something to think about.
I don't know what your medical issue was, but you have to be able to do procedures and work at all hours of the day and night. If you can't do that, you won't survive residency.

 

[DocBlin]

First it is not the end of the world. STUDY than retake step II, find observerships, research, externships. to show you are doing something. Possibly take STEP III after you pass II. Reapply early next year.

 

[survivordo]

Like others have said, programs will be leery until they see a passing step II score... gotta have it

Survivor DO

 

[Consigliere]

perhaps i'm confused but here you state you took a *year* off (not two), and that you failed step 2.

I would venture that failing step 2 and applying without a passing grade into a moderately competitive field such as anesthesiology, is more likely the reason for your failure to obtain interviews than medical leave.

In answer to your question, all amgs do not match especially if there are red flags. As you can see from nrmp charting outcomes, last year there were 1177 amgs applying for 919 positions in anesthesia; 725 amg seniors matched for a match rate of 78.9%.

Busted!

 

[Gern Blansten]

Two years off is a long time no matter what the reason. Hard to recover from. I hope that whatever the medical issue was is behind you now and best of luck.
I would agree that the failed step exam is the main root of your problem based on what you have revealed, or kind of revealed.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Additionally, though it may be late to try and set something like this up, I would try and postpone graduation if at all possible. Find a research project and do a dedicated research year, go for an MPH, do SOMETHING that will allow you to be classified as a US Senior in next year's match. If you were applying to something competitive... it may be time to have an honest conversation with your home program's PD and other mentors you have within that field about whether you need to consider something else, as failing a Step exam is probably a black mark that you can't recover from.

 

[owlegrad]

Passed step 1, but failed step 2. Was required to take it during a year off when I was on medical leave, which my school has apparently never done before. Applied to 60 programs. Have not yet been granted a single interview. What should I do?

I'd say it depends on what field you are trying to match into. At this point, any interview you would get would be because of someone else canceling. This means that you are already not in their top tier.

If you're trying for something like FM or IM where there are a decent number of positions left after the match, then you might score a spot through SOAP.

Unfortunately, medical leave can sometimes count as a strike against someone...let alone a failed step 2 during that time. Is there anything else outstanding on your app?

If you're trying for something more competitive, then I'd say you should be formulating a plan B, if you haven't started to do so already. What plan B consists of is what you feel like you should do in the end...we can only give suggestions here.

Edit: It looks like you're interested in Ophtho or Gas? I'm guessing all your apps were to Anesthesia programs?

Sorry to hear that you've had a rough time of things.
Have you retaken Step 2 yet? If you have a passing score to show, that'll help a lot in SOAP.

1. Retake step 2 if you haven't done so already.
2. SOAP into a less competitive field if there's one that you're ok with
3. Talk to your current advisor/PD/Dean and see if anyone can make some calls for you to programs that you haven't heard from.
4. Don't give up hope!

First it is not the end of the world. STUDY than retake step II, find observerships, research, externships. to show you are doing something. Possibly take STEP III after you pass II. Reapply early next year.

Like others have said, programs will be leery until they see a passing step II score... gotta have it

Survivor DO

Additionally, though it may be late to try and set something like this up, I would try and postpone graduation if at all possible. Find a research project and do a dedicated research year, go for an MPH, do SOMETHING that will allow you to be classified as a US Senior in next year's match. If you were applying to something competitive... it may be time to have an honest conversation with your home program's PD and other mentors you have within that field about whether you need to consider something else, as failing a Step exam is probably a black mark that you can't recover from.

Merging into related thread.