DO and Specialties

[ShyRem]

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UNE matched someone into ACGME rad onc this year.

 

[ShyRem]

I really appreciate your help
What is the differnce between fellowship and residence please?
What would be an example of a EM fellowship?

residency is what you do right after med school.
fellowship is subspecialization after residency.

Example of EM fellowship is toxicology.

 

[Cybii]

SDN mantra is if you plan on doing a fellowship, ACGME is the way to go. I'm not entirely sure about fellowship though (if you can cross over from AOA to ACGME or vice versa).

Can someone comment on whether or not crossing from AOA residencies to ACGME fellowships is possible?

 

[faith2]

thanks and congrats on your success.

residency is what you do right after med school.
fellowship is subspecialization after residency.

Example of EM fellowship is toxicology.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Can someone comment on whether or not crossing from AOA residencies to ACGME fellowships is possible?

It's possible, it's just not as probable and would most likely put you at a big disadvantage.

 

[MSmentor018]

Wow, horrible answers ...

The truth is that medical school is medical school ... MD or DO. No mystical differences, the force isn't stronger on one side, etc. Obviously DO schools teach manipulation, and if you are interested in that ... one more tool in your bag, but I wouldn't get caught up on some unique philosophy.

As far as specializing goes - it's way to early to start thinking about that. Two types of residencies exist - ACGME residencies, which are technically for MD students, and AOA residencies, which are for DO students and can only be applied to by students who have graduated from a DO school. DO's can apply to both ACGME and AOA programs, but some of the highly sought after residencies on the ACGME side will have a definite DO bias. However, these are the residencies that are difficult for anyone to get, not just DOs.

The truth of the matter is that when you get right down to it ... you need to be a good student, work hard, have the grades, networking, letters, etc, for it, wish for some luck, and apply smart. If you do this, and go into it with a sense of realism - IE I probably won't have a shot at an integrated plastics spot at Harvard Mass General, but I'm a good student so I can definitely match into an AOA G-surg residency (associated with a PRS program) work hard, network, and probably land that plastics fellowship - you'll be alright.

Again, this probably sounds overwhelming and weird ... and I'm basically trying to sum up pre-DO SDN in one post, but stick around, use the search engine, and check out this link to all the DO residencies (only DOs can apply to these). You'll learn/figure it all out:

http://opportunities.osteopathic.org

best answer I've seen to the old MD vs DO route...strong work! 👍

 

[MSmentor018]

Can someone comment on whether or not crossing from AOA residencies to ACGME fellowships is possible?

yes, our clinical dean did it. AOA ortho then ACGME spine

 

[Cybii]

yes, our clinical dean did it. AOA ortho then ACGME spine

It's possible, it's just not as probable and would most likely put you at a big disadvantage.

Do you think it depends on the program? Because I was checking out fellowships in obstetrics today, and the prereqs are a ACGME residency... but the program director herself is a DO. 🙄

http://www.aafp.org/fellowships/10711.html

 

[MegaSpectacular]

Whenever I see this topic come up people always mention DOs don't match into rad/onc...

And?

Chances are good that if you are an MD it will be hard as hell to get into also, I wonder what the % of MD graduates who get a spot in rad/onc is? like 1%?

If you are in the top 1% of your MD class then you probably aren't on SDN arguing with people about how MDs are placing better in rad/onc. You are probably in the bottom 99% of the MD world.

In other words, the argument doesn't apply.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Whenever I see this topic come up people always mention DOs don't match into rad/onc...

And?

Chances are good that if you are an MD it will be hard as hell to get into also, I wonder what the % of MD graduates who get a spot in rad/onc is? like 1%?

If you are in the top 1% of your MD class then you probably aren't on SDN arguing with people about how MDs are placing better in rad/onc. You are probably in the bottom 99% of the MD world.

In other words, the argument doesn't apply.

I've used this argument many times ... and agree.

 

[Instatewaiter]

Whenever I see this topic come up people always mention DOs don't match into rad/onc...

And?

Chances are good that if you are an MD it will be hard as hell to get into also, I wonder what the % of MD graduates who get a spot in rad/onc is? like 1%?

If you are in the top 1% of your MD class then you probably aren't on SDN arguing with people about how MDs are placing better in rad/onc. You are probably in the bottom 99% of the MD world.

In other words, the argument doesn't apply.

In my class it was 100% of those who applied.

 

[MSmentor018]

Do you think it depends on the program? Because I was checking out fellowships in obstetrics today, and the prereqs are a ACGME residency... but the program director herself is a DO. 🙄

http://www.aafp.org/fellowships/10711.html

absolutely it's program dependent, PD's can pretty much do whatever they want....it's their program. write the PD and ask to get the real scoop and if you can get boarded. that's another issue that's coming down the pike in the DO-->ACGME world.

 

[IMDoc607]

There are threads discussing DO match lists for all the past years. They are starting to come out for 2010.

Please check the following thread as you will see every speciality represented....yes even derm and rad onc


http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=709495

 

[pulmcc]

Can someone comment on whether or not crossing from AOA residencies to ACGME fellowships is possible?

Don't know of anyone doing this and don't see any reason to do an AOA residency if you are even considering a fellowship. I did an ACGME IM residency and have 3 months left in my Pulmonary Critical Care fellowship (ACGME).