Do arrests without conviction show up on the CBC?

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I had a small alcohol violation a couple of years ago, and all of the charges were deferred and I was not convicted of anything, so I was wondering if this would show up on the Certiphi background check. If anybody has any experience with this I would like to hear what did show up, you can PM me if you don't want to post it. Thanks in advance!

Also... you can spare me all of the "well you don't deserve to go to med school if you got arrested" stuff. 👍
 
sorry man but you don't deserve to go to med school if you got arrested

maybe you can try D.O. or carib, they might let you in if you are URM
 
Elpenor said:
sorry man but you don't deserve to go to med school if you got arrested

maybe you can try D.O. or carib, they might let you in if you are URM
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I dunno, even that is a long shot.😉
 
If no one is able to give you a complete answer, it would probably be in your best interest to purchase the Certiphi CBC at the beginning of your app cycle so that if it shows up, you can clarify the issue with medical schools and report it properly as needed.
 
vandy2010 said:
I had a small alcohol violation a couple of years ago, and all of the charges were deferred and I was not convicted of anything, so I was wondering if this would show up on the Certiphi background check. If anybody has any experience with this I would like to hear what did show up, you can PM me if you don't want to post it. Thanks in advance!

Also... you can spare me all of the "well you don't deserve to go to med school if you got arrested" stuff. 👍
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i think the others are joking...I can GUARANTEE that arrests without conviction don't show up. Trust me.

Now i believe some secondaries actually may ask about arrests, etc...this is kind of a gray area but i think it may be a violation of your rights.
 
Certiphi has a wide range of background checks, does anybody know which one they specifically use?
 
I would think no. I was once told it is illegal for someone to ask you if you've been arrested, but it is legal to ask if you've been convicted. This was for job applications, but I would assume med school is the same.

Maybe call the school anonymously? Or have a friend call if you are paranoid they will cross check the phone number.
 
It will show up. I had a case where it was dismissed completely due to lack of evidence (arrest was due to a physical disability, not intoxication) and despite the fact that I could have (and probably should have) sued the officer (and state) for ADA compliance, it is still on my CBC record (I had an interviewer ask about it at a job interview). Apparently, we are in a "guilty even if proven innocent" country. Nevertheless, I probably wouldn't worry about it too much as long as it's the only such violation on your record and it is as minor as you make it out to be.
 
4X4MD said:
i think the others are joking...I can GUARANTEE that arrests without conviction don't show up. Trust me.
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Not true.. Don't guarantee something when you obviously don't know what you are talking about
 
Maybe this is different than your situation, but I had a class C misdemeanor for alcohol in my sophomore year of college...I was up-front about it on all of my applications, and honestly I think that's the best way to go about it.

Check out buying the certiphi background check for yourself to see if it will show up or not, but I think med schools are gonna be less likely to accept you if they find out you hid something from them than if you are up front and honest about it.

Like I said tho, mine was not an arrest, just a class C misdemeanor, so your situation may be different. Hopefully this helps!
 
Depumcrc said:
Not true.. Don't guarantee something when you obviously don't know what you are talking about
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source = certiphi customer service representative

reliable?

you tell me

and it doesn't matter...arrests are only charges alleged against you, not things you have actually done.

is it possible for them to see arrests? well sure, its on public record, but they cant use it against you and doing so would be against the law...hard to prove but would provide an interesting lawsuit

licensure is another animal, however
 
If you're paranoid, you can purchase your own Certiphi background check to get the same results the medical schools would get.
 
TC, see my PM, and don't let these idiots who say you don't deserve to be a doctor bother you.
 
Not sure what you mean by "charges were deferred." However, if you recieved any sort of citation it shows up. Even the amount you paid for a fine shows up.

Certiphi's backround checks are all encompassing. They look for records at the state, federal and county level. Even summary offenses come up (i.e. speeding ticket). This is becuase in many states disorderly conducts and underage drinking violations are summary offenses.

If your worried just get the background check. It doesn't cost very much (the price is graduated depending on the records that turn up).

Obvioulsy I have a criminal past....😉
 
Depumcrc said:
Not true.. Don't guarantee something when you obviously don't know what you are talking about
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Don't assume. My MIP from 2 years back that was deferred did not show up, just like everyone said it wouldn't
 
I think it depends on the state. Some states don't allow arrests without conviction to show up on background checks, and some do.
 
emily487 said:
I think it depends on the state. Some states don't allow arrests without conviction to show up on background checks, and some do.
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I can agree with this. I know for a fact, that in NC, a deferred prosecution WILL show up on CBCs.
 
JoshUNCW said:
That I do not know, I just happen to live in NC, have gotten a deferred prosecution, and know it showed up on my CBC.
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i might have skimmed through the OP original question too quickly, but was his deferred? answer is yes...

deferred prosecution and no conviction are two separate entities...i know alot of agencies consider deferred prosecution/adjudication to be considered convictions (in their eyes, not legally)
 
4X4MD said:
i might have skimmed through the OP original question too quickly, but was his deferred? answer is yes...

deferred prosecution and no conviction are two separate entities...i know alot of agencies consider deferred prosecution/adjudication to be considered convictions (in their eyes, not legally)
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Yup, and if you read what the schools are usually asking when it comes to the "do you have a criminal background" question. A number of them specifically ask if you've ever gotten a deferred prosecution. If they ask that you'll need to say yes and explain your situation. If they do not specifically ask about deferred prosecution, you can say no.
 
JoshUNCW said:
I can agree with this. I know for a fact, that in NC, a deferred prosecution WILL show up on CBCs.
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False, I had an MIP and it doesn't show up on mine.

It showed up during the "probation" phase but after that it didn't show up.
 
4X4MD said:
i think the others are joking...I can GUARANTEE that arrests without conviction don't show up. Trust me.

Now i believe some secondaries actually may ask about arrests, etc...this is kind of a gray area but i think it may be a violation of your rights.
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WRONG. I had a transit citation from 4 years ago show up. As a college freshman, I bought a student ticket to use the light rail train system. Apparently, student tickets are for those under 18. Got a 94 dollar fine and it showed up on the CBC so you can bet an ARREST will.
 
JoshUNCW said:
Not false, a prayer for judgement, which is NCs main deferred prosecution will show up on CBC.
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Well I’m from NC and I got an MIP and then did the Deferred Prosecution and it doesn't show up on a background check. A Prayer for Judgement is different than a DPP!

Deferred Prosecution in the state of NC (does not go on a Criminal Record)


Overview
“In short, DPP allows an eligible offender to enter a Punishment Contract that requires her to complete punishment proscribed by the District Attorney, and approved by the Court, under the supervision of a probation officer for up to 24 months; however, six to 12 months is more common. If the offender successfully completes the proscribed punishment during the probationary term, the criminal charges against her are dismissed.

What benefits does the defendant receive under DPP?
The only benefit the offender receives in DPP is that he can avoid a permanent criminal record by completing the punishment proscribed in the Punishment Contract.”
Website- http://www.ncdistrictattorney.org/michaelparker/deferredprosecution.pdf

Prayer or Judgment different than a deferred prosecution
When charged with a certain criminal or traffic offense, the accused may have the option to request, from the judge, a "Prayer for Judgment Continued". When requesting a Prayer for Judgment Continued (PJC), the accused is doing so after having pleaded guilty (misdemeanor or felony) or responsible (infraction). The legal significance of obtaining a Prayer for Judgment Continued (PJC) is that the resulting plea of guilty or responsible is not actually entered against the defendant.
The judge has the ultimate say in whether to grant the prayer for judgment or not. The assistant district attorney (prosecutor) can oppose, support, or have no stance on whether the judge should grant the PJC or not. In general, if the assistant district attorney is going to support the PJC, it would be highly unlikely for the judge to deny the PJC.
However, regardless of the judgment not being entered against the criminal defendant, the outcome does go on the defendant's criminal and or driving record. In the case of traffic citations, there are restrictions as to who can use a Prayer for Judgment Continued (PJC) and how many one can receive.
Website- http://prayerforjudgment.com/prayer-for-judgment.html
 
CRB said:
Yeah, because it got expunged from your record. Do some community service or take a class?
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No just paid a fine, that’s the way deferred prosecution works in NC. Pay$250 fine and don’t get in trouble in 6 months and the case is dismissed and not put on your criminal record.
 
CRB said:
WRONG. I had a transit citation from 4 years ago show up. As a college freshman, I bought a student ticket to use the light rail train system. Apparently, student tickets are for those under 18. Got a 94 dollar fine and it showed up on the CBC so you can bet an ARREST will.
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What about traffic violations? I got pulled over for speeding and I didn't have my license on me. The guy only warned me for speeding and waived the fine for the lack of physical driver's license. I had to get the ticket signed by a local policeman and mail it in to the court. This was my first and only ticket and I did not know that I personally had to sign it as well. When I mailed it in, they sent a copy back to me a week later telling me to sign it. I forgot until awhile later when I got a letter warning me that if I did not sign the ticket and turn it in a warrant would go out for my arrest and my license would be suspended. I promptly signed it and mailed it in, and I assume everything turned out okay because I crashed my car a year later and the policeman checking my license and records had no comment on anything.

I know I know...cool story bro.
 
Great read... But it sounds like you didn't even get a real citation, just a warning. If that was the case, what ticket did you need signed? And minor traffic citations usually aren't of any significance to admissions committees.
 
it seems that i would certainly depend on your state

i<3Louisiana
 
Thanks for all the responses. I really don't want to have to shell out the $150 for the Certiphi background check, even though it would probably end up being less than that.

I did do a cheap background check on myself and it came up clean...

Also I have a friend who had the exact same charge and deferment as me, and he got into dental school and nothing at all showed up on his background check.

I guess getting into medical school this year would be the first step... :xf:
 
Well I couldn't take it any more so I just paid for the Certiphi background check.

I'll keep you posted***
 
The criteria for whether it'll show up is twofold

1. Were you charged with a crime? The case disposition (guilty, dropped, not guilty etc etc) is irrelevant here.
2. In your state, is the charge considered a misdemeanor OR felony??

Affirmative responses to 1. & 2. = yes it'll show up.
 
Bernoull said:
The criteria for whether it'll show up is twofold

1. Were you charged with a crime? The case disposition (guilty, dropped, not guilty etc etc) is irrelevant here.
2. In your state, is the charge considered a misdemeanor OR felony??

Affirmative responses to 1. & 2. = yes it'll show up.
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what?
 
gatornick said:
How much was it and which one did you buy?
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They CAN charge up to $150, but it probably will end up being more around $50, I won't find out until the report is complete in a few days.

When I filled out my AMCAS they will send you an email about the background check, and give you a link if you want to purchase one for yourself before the schools get the report.
 
Bernoull said:
The criteria for whether it'll show up is twofold

1. Were you charged with a crime? The case disposition (guilty, dropped, not guilty etc etc) is irrelevant here.
2. In your state, is the charge considered a misdemeanor OR felony??

Affirmative responses to 1. & 2. = yes it'll show up.
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1. Well I was arrested and I'm guessing I was charged with a crime. Not sure if you're right here...

2. Misdemeanor.
 
apumic said:
It will show up. I had a case where it was dismissed completely due to lack of evidence (arrest was due to a physical disability, not intoxication) and despite the fact that I could have (and probably should have) sued the officer (and state) for ADA compliance, it is still on my CBC record (I had an interviewer ask about it at a job interview). Apparently, we are in a "guilty even if proven innocent" country. Nevertheless, I probably wouldn't worry about it too much as long as it's the only such violation on your record and it is as minor as you make it out to be.
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Nope.

Depumcrc said:
Not true.. Don't guarantee something when you obviously don't know what you are talking about
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Turns out he did know what he was talking about.


4X4MD said:
it seems that i would certainly depend on your state

i<3Louisiana
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That seems to be the case.

Bernoull said:
The criteria for whether it'll show up is twofold

1. Were you charged with a crime? The case disposition (guilty, dropped, not guilty etc etc) is irrelevant here.
2. In your state, is the charge considered a misdemeanor OR felony??

Affirmative responses to 1. & 2. = yes it'll show up.
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This is definitely not true. I WAS charged with a crime, just not convicted.

Well I finally got my Certiphi background check results back, and thank 8 pound 6 ounce sweet baby jesus that it came back 100% clean.

So at least in my case, even though I was arrested and charge with a crime, since it was deferred nothing shows up. This could be a state by state thing, if so, I love Alabama. 👍
 
Who is anybody here to say that if someone has ever been arrested they don't deserve to go to medical school? Or maybe go to the caribbean or d.o. Where they might take you? As if they're some piece of trash. So many people in this society, including people on these forums, have done things worthy of being arrested for. The main difference between those arrested and those not is the fact that they were caught and had to endure society's degradation ceremony. Pick up a sociology text with research into these topics and you may be better informed and perhaps lose a bit of your naivete. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
 
vandy2010 said:
Nope.



Turns out he did know what he was talking about.




That seems to be the case.




This is definitely not true. I WAS charged with a crime, just not convicted.

Well I finally got my Certiphi background check results back, and thank 8 pound 6 ounce sweet baby jesus that it came back 100% clean.

So at least in my case, even though I was arrested and charge with a crime, since it was deferred nothing shows up. This could be a state by state thing, if so, I love Alabama. 👍
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Hey how much did your background check end up costing?
 
MichaelRW said:
Who is anybody here to say that if someone has ever been arrested they don't deserve to go to medical school? Or maybe go to the caribbean or d.o. Where they might take you? As if they're some piece of trash. So many people in this society, including people on these forums, have done things worthy of being arrested for. The main difference between those arrested and those not is the fact that they were caught and had to endure society's degradation ceremony. Pick up a sociology text with research into these topics and you may be better informed and perhaps lose a bit of your naivete. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
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*cough* Those were obviously sarcasm.

And to the OP: Arrests without conviction *might* show up depending on how your state keeps records. Even if they do, there's no way you could get in trouble for not reporting said arrest, because you were never convicted of doing anything wrong. So no, you don't have to mention it and if it *does* come up, it won't be an issue since you weren't actually convicted.
 
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