Do I need to cut my school list down? Any and all feedback is appreciated!

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    Background:
    - 3.8, 515
    - CA ORM
    - 1.5k hours research (w/poster authorship and a few pub authorships in revision)
    - 600 hours scribe
    - 150 hours clinical volunteer
    - 100 hours nonclinical volunteer
    - 100 hours TA
    - 50 hours shadowing
    - note: no non-science prof LOR, so I can't apply to schools that appear to explicitly require this (like Vermont or Indiana)

    School list so far (42 total):

    Kaiser
    UCR
    MC Wisconsin
    Tulane
    Wayne State
    Drexel
    Cal Northstate (I know there are concerns with this program, but it's a state school so I might as well throw them in anyways)
    UCD
    NY Med College
    Temple
    Colorado
    University of Wisconsin
    Wake Forest
    George Washington
    VCU
    uConn
    CUSM
    Georgetown
    Thomas Jefferson
    Saint Louis
    Emory
    Einstein
    UMass
    Iowa
    Tufts
    USF Morsani
    Brown
    U Michigan
    Ohio State
    Cincinnati
    UCI
    UCLA
    UCSD
    USC
    Rochester
    Pittsburgh
    UCSF
    Boston University
    University of Virginia
    Stanford
    Case Western
    NYU

    Fortunately, finances aren't a huge concern, and I've already started prewriting the most frequent/common secondaries. I guess I'm wondering whether any of these schools are a hard NO or if the list is too imbalanced. @Goro I know you have helped many with lists, and I'd especially appreciate any thoughts you have. Thanks!
     

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      I suggest

      Kaiser
      UCR ONLY if you're from the Inland Empire
      Tulane
      UCD
      NY Med College
      Temple
      Colorado
      Wake Forest
      VCU
      CUSM
      Georgetown
      Thomas Jefferson
      Saint Louis
      Emory
      Einstein
      Tufts
      USF Morsani
      U Michigan
      Ohio State
      Cincinnati
      UCI
      UCLA
      UCSD
      USC
      Rochester
      Pittsburgh
      UCSF
      Boston University
      University of Virginia
      Case Western
       
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        I suggest

        Kaiser
        UCR ONLY if you're from the Inland Empire
        Tulane
        UCD
        NY Med College
        Temple
        Colorado
        Wake Forest
        VCU
        CUSM
        Georgetown
        Thomas Jefferson
        Saint Louis
        Emory
        Einstein
        Tufts
        USF Morsani
        U Michigan
        Ohio State
        Cincinnati
        UCI
        UCLA
        UCSD
        USC
        Rochester
        Pittsburgh
        UCSF
        Boston University
        University of Virginia
        Case Western

        Thanks I really appreciate your help. Not from Inland Empire so will cross off UCR from my list.

        Any schools that weren't in the initial list that you'd recommend where I'd stand a decent chance? I'm sure I missed a few.
         
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          Thanks I really appreciate your help. Not from Inland Empire so will cross off UCR from my list.

          Any schools that weren't in the initial list that you'd recommend where I'd stand a decent chance? I'm sure I missed a few.
          Hofstra
          UCF
          Jefferson
          EVMS
           
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            I'm not under the impression that the following are particularly OOS friendly:

            Colorado
            University of Wisconsin
            uConn
            UMass
            Iowa
            USF Morsani
            U Michigan
            Ohio State
            University of Virginia

            You should double check the MSAR before you send them money.
            If you look at the IS vs OOS interview and matriculation %'s, one gets a sense of who is friendly vs unfriendly. This year, I'm seeing that all of the above except U Conn are worth a crack to stellar candidates, or those form neighboring states. It wasn't always the case and I suspect that these schools realized that they like OOS tuition more than they like exclusively favoring the home team.
             

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              I'm not under the impression that the following are particularly OOS friendly:

              Colorado
              University of Wisconsin
              uConn
              UMass
              Iowa
              USF Morsani
              U Michigan
              Ohio State
              University of Virginia

              You should double check the MSAR before you send them money.

              Appreciate your feedback!

              Just to add to Goro's point a little, i did look at the MSAR in deciding those schools. i looked at how many OOS applicants got Interviews, and what percent of those Interviews became matriculants after that.

              Like Iowa for instance. 3.5k OOS apps, to around 480 interviews, and then 54 matriculants. Greater than 10% interview percentage for OOS applicants seems solid, and though we dont know how many got accepted and declined offer of admission, > 10% post interview rate is ok i guess.

              Or Ohio state: 6.4k OOS apps to 320 interviews, and 100 matriculants. while the OOS II rate drops, post-interview acceptance rate is higher.

              From my research, not all schools have the best of both worlds (although a place like St. Louis gets kinda close with 5.9k OOS apps to 810 interviews and 140 matriculants). But this rate comparison technique helped me eliminate places like U Arizona - Phoenix, who had 5k OOS apps to 190 interviews to 31 matriculants.
               
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