Do Medical School have school diversity quotas?

[Doc2019]

I don't know if anyone knows this but does anyone know if medical schools have preferences towards schools or focus on getting kids from a ton of different schools? Like do medical schools focus on getting a few kids from each medical school or they want to get kids only form certain schools?

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[Spector1]

probably yes

 

[Lawpy]

Official/formal quotas are illegal. However, schools can get away with it by exploiting the ambiguous feature of "fit".

 

[Law2Doc]

I don't know if anyone knows this but does anyone know if medical schools have preferences towards schools or focus on getting kids from a ton of different schools? Like do medical schools focus on getting a few kids from each medical school or they want to get kids only form certain schools?

State schools give "in state" preference, and most schools want a diverse student body. The use of "quotas" per se when dealing with minorities went by the wayside after a number of legal battles some time back. Less represented groups do get some preference on admission but nothing prescribed. As for preferences toward undergrad schools, certainly not anything on paper, but I am sure Adcom members always have their own good and bad experiences with graduates of different places that guide them.

 

[iDOliveinMD]

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[whatever5]

No they do not. There is a big difference between having a quota (aka we need to fill our seats with 15% black people) vs being more likely to interview candidates that fulfill desired diversity characteristics.

 

[BluMist]

lol, I like how everyone's automatic response is AA/race quota, read the OP again... 10/10 based on the responses so far

To answer the original question seriously, I doubt that is a conscious choice thing.
I can't imagine any admission committee looking to "collect 'em all" in term of UG school representation.

• Look at it from the reverse side, there are strong applicants from many schools, but the top 5 (or 10, 20, etc.) schools probably have more just because of the people they admit in the first place, so it might look as if school "favors" those top schools.
• You also have to look at whether a school has in-state preference.
• I don't have a source for this last one, but I believe most schools do prefer (slightly) their own UG.

 

[Doc2019]

Yeah I was mostly curious about the state-preference. Are most medical schools state-preference?

 

[BluMist]

Most (not all) public medical schools have in-state preference, if you need data on a specific school, you should look to check against MSAR.

Yeah I was mostly curious about the state-preference. Are most medical schools state-preference?

 

[gyngyn]

Official/formal quotas are illegal. However, schools can get away with it by exploiting the ambiguous feature of "fit".

Fit is used to describe a different set of desired characteristics: research, leadership, service to a particular geography, religion, the Armed Service.... It can also include language skills
Racial and ethnic diversity is a component of the service missions of many schools.
https://www.aamc.org/initiatives/diversity/179816/facts_and_figures.html
The only "quotas" I'm aware of are contractual (WICHE, WAMI) or legislatively mandated (TX).

 

[BluMist]

@gyngyn: lol not you too...

OP is asking whether medical school has any quota for specific school (UG institution). "Oh, we want 5 students from college A, and we need to make sure to admit students from 50 different colleges this year to boost our diversity image." 🤣

 

[gyngyn]

@gyngyn: lol not you too...

OP is asking whether medical school has any quota for specific school (UG institution). "Oh, we want 5 students from college A, and we need to make sure to admit students from 50 different colleges this year to boost our diversity image." 🤣

I was mostly responding to Lawper.
School quotas would just be...goofy!

 

[BluMist]

Yet, CA medical schools seem to have a negative/zero school quota for CA UGs 🙄

School quotas would just be...goofy!

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

quotas are illegal

 

[gyngyn]

Yet, CA medical schools seem to have a negative/zero school quota for CA UGs 🙄

This is actually true, but UCD and UCR have geographic missions that almost entirely result in CA grads (high school or college). .

 

[Cyberdyne 101]

I don't know if anyone knows this but does anyone know if medical schools have preferences towards schools or focus on getting kids from a ton of different schools? Like do medical schools focus on getting a few kids from each medical school or they want to get kids only form certain schools?

Preferences certainly exist at the top private med schools. Such schools tend to be concentrated with Ivy League grads.

 

[Lawpy]

Fit is used to describe a different set of desired characteristics: research, leadership, service to a particular geography, religion, the Armed Service.... It can also include language skills
Racial and ethnic diversity is a component of the service missions of many schools.
https://www.aamc.org/initiatives/diversity/179816/facts_and_figures.html
The only "quotas" I'm aware of are contractual (WICHE, WAMI) or legislatively mandated (TX).

But how is race/ethnicity/diversity etc. not a component of fit if it ties directly to the school's mission? The corresponding service-related ECs cement that.

Also confused that religion is considered part of the fit category if race/ethnicity isn't so.

lol, I like how everyone's automatic response is AA/race quota, read the OP again... .

Blame OP's poor thread title

 

[Citygirl44]

Some med schools have 0 minorities ( or 1-2). So no, med schools don't have quotas.

 

[gyngyn]

Also confused that religion is considered part of the fit category if race/ethnicity isn't so.

Loma Linda is a good example of how religion can be a primary characteristic for fit.
Race and or ethnicity is strongly considered at the HBCU affiliated medical schools, but is still largely tied with the service mission.

 

[Doc2019]

Yeah thanks for all the responses guys. My thread title wasn't specific and sorry if it mislead you guys into thinking I was only referring to race.

 

[Mad Jack]

The MSAR is your friend.

 

[Zumab]

Some med schools have 0 minorities ( or 1-2). So no, med schools don't have quotas.

Sure, on paper, they do not have quotas but based on
https://www.aamc.org/download/321474/data/factstable9.pdf

it seems like that numbers generally stay the same year to year... so it could be that while "diversity" can mean factors like religion (Loma Linda), those schools might be more of an exception than the rule....

Just my two cents.

 

[Goro]

Brown does (from Brown)

Many UG schools are feeders for med school. Their grads are known quality and as such, you'll see more of them represented. But no Admissions dean is going to say "We have enough Rice students now, let's get some from Clemson."

I don't know if anyone knows this but does anyone know if medical schools have preferences towards schools or focus on getting kids from a ton of different schools? Like do medical schools focus on getting a few kids from each medical school or they want to get kids only form certain schools?

 

[Instatewaiter]

I don't know if anyone knows this but does anyone know if medical schools have preferences towards schools or focus on getting kids from a ton of different schools? Like do medical schools focus on getting a few kids from each medical school or they want to get kids only form certain schools?

medical schools will preferentially admit people from schools where they have had successful students in the past.

The majority of the students in my class were from a small handful of schools.