Do programs know where you ranked them?

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it is possible for them to know if u dont rank them first.
 
missdr said:


if they rank u to match, and u dont end up there..u did not rank them first

if they did not rank u to match, but match someone lower on their rank list than u..........u did not rank them first.
 
I was told by a few different programs that they can get a list of where all of their interviewees end up at. After the match of course.
 
i see what you mean but if you don't end up there but if you DO end up there can they find out??? just curious...
 
missdr said:
i see what you mean but if you don't end up there but if you DO end up there can they find out??? just curious...

I think it would take some serious investigative work and they would have to have the ROL from all the other programs you interviewed at.
Just beware that if you tell anyone at the program... it is likely to get around. 😛
 
Just out of curiosity, why the concern?
 
the answer is ALWAYS say you ranked them first!!! I cant imagine how fun it will be for you to tell your program you ranked them 5th!!!! white lies dont hurt! 😀
 
APACHE3 said:
the answer is ALWAYS say you ranked them first!!! I cant imagine how fun it will be for you to tell your program you ranked them 5th!!!! white lies dont hurt! 😀

I disagree with the above statement for a number of reasons.

1. Lying is not a good policy.
2. You may ultimately be applying for a job at the same department that you lied to. They will remember what you did if they ranked you high enough to match and you told them "you're number one" and do not end up matching.
3. In certain small fields, it is well-known and widely-circulated among PDs if this behavior occurs. Have fun applying for a job!
 
Butch said:
I disagree with the above statement for a number of reasons.
1. Lying is not a good policy.
Oh, COME ON! 🙄
Policy?? Seriously, apart from a few exceptions like yourself, I sincerely doubt anyone has gone through life without lying. Even that was a lie. Do you actualy believe the people who tell you you are good-looking / intelligent / funny? :meanie:
2. You may ultimately be applying for a job at the same department that you lied to. They will remember what you did if they ranked you high enough to match and you told them "you're number one" and do not end up matching.
I assume what Apache3 meant was that you tell the place you end up at after the Match that they were your Number 1 choice. What is the harm? (Oh, sorry. I forgot, its a bad policy) 😛 They feel happy you came there as eagerly as you could, make residency-life pleasant for you, offer you a fellowship, a major $$ job beckons...all because you were nice and told them they were #1 for you. After the match. Before the match, and you risk all the terrible consequences promised by Butch. :scared: I agree. Almost. 😉
3. In certain small fields, it is well-known and widely-circulated among PDs if this behavior occurs. Have fun applying for a job!
Maybe. But, PDs might have better things to worry about than which interview candidate gave them an unfulfilled promise 3-4 years ago. I have trouble believing PDs (who have to be sent Thank You notes to remind them of our interest inspite of our going for the interview) will remember this come fellowship/job time. And, that they share this information with one another, when the day-to-day administration of the department keeps them busy as hell, is even further beyond the realms of crudelity. 😎
 
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