Do public med schools favor applicants from certain states applying OOS?

[LuluLovesMe]

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I have the MSAR, but I know that numbers don't tell the whole story when it comes to OOS applications to public med schools. For example, though SUNY downstate may take around 20% of its class OOS, most of those are made up of California residents and it would be harder to get in OOS as a non-California resident.

Are there any special preferences for the following public med schools? I live in MA

Ohio State
U Cincinnati
U Vermont
EVMC
Virginia Commonwealth

 

[efle]

Many of the OOS interviewees at any public school will be Californian, because Cali has absolutely massive numbers of premeds applying all over the country - the UC system alone has almost a quarter million students in it. I wouldn't take a big Cali presence to indicate favoritism of the state.

I imagine it might help if you are from a nearby/similar state, though, if part of the school's mission is to produce docs likely to stay and serve in the area.

 

[Goro]

Public schools tend to favor OOSer from nearby states, given that, for example, if you're from the midwest, you're likely to want to stay in the midwest. U MN might not understand why someone from CA or FL would want to go there.

Keep in mind that the taxpayers who fund state schools want doctors to stick around and practice there.

The"bias" that the SUNYs may have might simply be due to the excellent stats from the CA applicants, who couldn't get into a CA school, and the NY Admissions deans know that the UC system etc are good feeder schools.

Our pal gyngyn has access to state-by-state data, so he might be able to tell you who Ohio State likes, as an example.

I have the MSAR, but I know that numbers don't tell the whole story when it comes to OOS applications to public med schools. For example, though SUNY downstate may take around 20% of its class OOS, most of those are made up of California residents and it would be harder to get in OOS as a non-California resident.

Are there any special preferences for the following public med schools? I live in MA

Ohio State
U Cincinnati
U Vermont
EVMC
Virginia Commonwealth

 

[LuluLovesMe]

Public schools tend to favor OOSer from nearby states, given that, for example, if you're from the midwest, you're likely to want to stay in the midwest. U MN might not understand why someone from CA or FL would want to go there.

Keep in mind that the taxpayers who fund state schools want doctors to stick around and practice there.

The"bias" that the SUNYs may have might simply be due to the excellent stats from the CA applicants, who couldn't get into a CA school, and the NY Admissions deans know that the UC system etc are good feeder schools.

Our pal gyngyn has access to state-by-state data, so he might be able to tell you who Ohio State likes, as an example.

Thanks Goro! I will wait for our pal @gyngyn

 

[gyngyn]

Thanks Goro! I will wait for our pal @gyngyn

I can only tell you with a high degree of precision where students that we interviewed were accepted. As you are looking for data specific to your state or school I can't say how similar the outcome might be. In general, I agree with what has been posted regarding regional preferences of public schools.
You may want to consider looking at the websites of the individual schools in which you have an interest.
If you search them right after school starts, many will post fun facts about the incoming class including the undergrad schools represented.

 

[LuluLovesMe]

I can only tell you with a high degree of precision where students that we interviewed were accepted. As you are looking for data specific to your state or school I can't say how similar the outcome might be. In general, I agree with what has been posted regarding regional preferences of public schools.
You may want to consider looking at the websites of the individual schools in which you have an interest.
If you search them right after school starts, many will post fun facts about the incoming class including the undergrad schools represented.

I guess it's really hard to get hard data on this then. I just wish I could know for certain if my application fee to Ohio State could be better used to apply to a closer state school. 🙁

 

[LuluLovesMe]

It's really not that hard to find the data you're looking for - a simple Google search should lead you to class profile sheets published by the medical school, many of which say exactly which universities/states matriculants are from. Here is OSU's most recent one: http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/Class Profile/Class Profile.pdf

I've seen that PDF before. It doesn't give the states. It gives undergrad schools which may not be in their state of residency.

 

[gyngyn]

I've seen that PDF before. It doesn't give the states. It gives undergrad schools which may not be in their state of residency.

Undergrad (especially at a state school) is a very good proxy for state of residence.

 

[LuluLovesMe]

True, but I would guess that in many cases, at least for the public schools, there is a correlation between undergrad and state of residence. I understand it's not exactly what you're looking for, but it's at the very least a rough indicator.

So I don't see many from Massachusetts there. 3 Harvard, 1 MIT, 1 Wellesley, 0 Tufts, BU, BC

But there are quite a few from New England.

Would you say that indicates it is friendly to MA?

 

[gyngyn]

I have no idea since I'm not affiliated with OSU (heck, they haven't even offered me an interview yet😉), but I would conjecture that the small number of matriculants from MA has something to do with the fact that MA is a small state with relatively fewer applicants in the first place - i.e. the number of matriculants is proportional to the number of applicants from MA.

This I can tell you. Last year MA had 1251 applicants. The total number matriculating anywhere was 615. For comparison, PA had 1666 ( and 793 matriculants) and MD had 1163 (520 mats).

 

[LuluLovesMe]

This I can tell you. Last year MA had 1251 applicants. For comparison, PA had 1666 and MD had 1163.

Ah so it does look like a preference for PA. There were 12 from PA, 6 from MD and 5 from MA. Looks Ohio State really likes PA but the sample size is too small to be sure.

I just want some certainty but the application process involves anything but certainty 🙁

 

[gyngyn]

Fair enough. I stand corrected!

Wouldn't you like to see one of those maps of the US where instead of geographical size, the states were sized by proportion of pre meds!