DO residency, research, and job outlook questions

[helpmenow]

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I have a friend who is an international doctor and he is applying for residecncies and i dunno what he has to go through here and all to get certified and stuff

but when i talked to him about applying to DO schools he was negative about it and telling me no no go for the MD, you will get a better shot at residencies then!

i dunno im assuming his perspective is different since he is an international student, but he said oh im feeling like a second option all the time because of my situation, trust me, you will feel the same way if you do osteopathic schools etc etc

so just what is the outlook and statistics of those in osteopathic schools, like why does one chose to do an MD residency or a DO residency? and what are the options in that and how far can one go in that? is it worth it?

Also, he said MD residencys majority of them happen at teaching schools, schools that have research and medical school and hospital all in one and he said thats better, and DO's would end up at just community hospitals, is this good bad any comments?

and what are the prospects for DO's and research? do they do it? do they care? i did read somwhere more DO schools are getting involved in research etc, any info on that? he said oh u wont be able to get into research later if you wanted to if you become a DO

and then he said DO's wont be able to work in big hospitals, they will just end up at small community ones, not like medical schools or teaching hospitals etc like MD's can, true false?

basically i strongly consider DO school because i am sincerely interested in it, was ever since i heard of it, i was very open to it, so im set about it, just these questions i still would like to be cleared up.....

so basically, why MD or DO residency? research and DO? and where do DO's work usually? and anything u think can be cleared up from waht i wrote above

thanks guys!

 

[mecute]

From what I have seen, most DOs tend to "band together" in small community hospitals/clinics. In my opinion, your generalizations hold true.

 

[Oculus Sinistra]

Tooooo many questions. Take a look at the FAQ sticky at the top of the forum threads. That answers a lot of your questions.

And as an aside, don't believe everything you hear about DO's... especially from an international medical student. Generally speaking, they are misinformed about osteopathic medicine on many, many levels.

 

[organic37881]

The reason DO's "band together" is because the majority are committed to serving in small communities where there is a need for primary physicians, not in large areas to serve their egos. How do I know? Because I work with DO's in a small community hospital.

 

[pguin]

If you truly are looking to go into research then MD is proabably a better route because MD schools get about 100 times more funding for research than DO schools do. However, research can be done at osteopathic schools if you really want to, theres just not as much of a focus on it.

Other than that it seems like all of the rest of the things he told you may or may not be a generality but they are definately not a rule. Osteopathic doctors can get the same residencies as MD's in very large hospitals. If you look at the match list for any school you will see this.

I think its a good idea to not put too much faith into the word of international students on the matter of osteopathic medicine. In any country but the US osteopathic medicine is not actually a form of medicine comparable with allopathic (I'm not even sure what they do). Hence why there are no foreign osteopathic schools. Also as a note, there seems to be a supported thought that its much tougher for a foreign MD to get a residency then for a DO...but I think it still depends on canidate to canidate.

 

[dr.z]

Tooooo many questions. Take a look at the FAQ sticky at the top of the forum threads. That answers a lot of your questions.

👍

 

[Shinken]

I have a friend that knows someone that once told him that unless you go to Harvard for med school you'll end up in family practice in the middle of nowhere in a two bed hospital that's not funded.

 

[rub1003]

I personally know a DO that did his residency at Yale and got more degrees at Hopkins (amazing physician!). Now, these are top schools. It really depends on how you do with board scores and research. You can get residencies at the top hospitals as a DO and an MD, but you do have to work at it

 

[helpmenow]

thaks guys, yeah it seems that a foriegn medical student is not the best authority on DO schools because since it is hard for him, he thinks anyone not in MD school is gonna have a hard time

Like i said i know people who did MD residencies as DO, one person did EMERGENCY MEDICINCE, something i am particulalry interested in


As far as the research route is concerned, It is not my MAIN goal, so im not going to just going to wait one more year to go to an MD school just simply for that, i mean Osteopathic schools do have research capabilities and facilities i think? and regardless, ill have a masters degree while im in DO school so i can get into research anywhere part time somewhere maybe? so i think that shud take care of my research goals, and evenso its not my main concern right away

and so why would a DO prefer to do an a lets say MD cardiology residency as compared to a DO cardiology residency? probably because of where they would be doing it i guess


well thanks guys as always, you all are great!

 

[medschoolsoon]

thaks guys, yeah it seems that a foriegn medical student is not the best authority on DO schools because since it is hard for him, he thinks anyone not in MD school is gonna have a hard time

Like i said i know people who did MD residencies as DO, one person did EMERGENCY MEDICINCE, something i am particulalry interested in


As far as the research route is concerned, It is not my MAIN goal, so im not going to just going to wait one more year to go to an MD school just simply for that, i mean Osteopathic schools do have research capabilities and facilities i think? and regardless, ill have a masters degree while im in DO school so i can get into research anywhere part time somewhere maybe? so i think that shud take care of my research goals, and evenso its not my main concern right away

and so why would a DO prefer to do an a lets say MD cardiology residency as compared to a DO cardiology residency? probably because of where they would be doing it i guess


well thanks guys as always, you all are great!

I think the main reason for a DO to do an MD residency besides where you could do it, would be if you like to incorporate OMM into your practice or not. If you find you hate/loathe OMM, an MD residency is probably for you. If you 😍 OMM, then an MD residency is not the best idea. That's all I've got. Good luck! 🙂

 

[jkhamlin]

I have a friend who is an international doctor and he is applying for residecncies and i dunno what he has to go through here and all to get certified and stuff

but when i talked to him about applying to DO schools he was negative about it and telling me no no go for the MD, you will get a better shot at residencies then!

i dunno im assuming his perspective is different since he is an international student, but he said oh im feeling like a second option all the time because of my situation, trust me, you will feel the same way if you do osteopathic schools etc etc

so just what is the outlook and statistics of those in osteopathic schools, like why does one chose to do an MD residency or a DO residency? and what are the options in that and how far can one go in that? is it worth it?

Also, he said MD residencys majority of them happen at teaching schools, schools that have research and medical school and hospital all in one and he said thats better, and DO's would end up at just community hospitals, is this good bad any comments?

and what are the prospects for DO's and research? do they do it? do they care? i did read somwhere more DO schools are getting involved in research etc, any info on that? he said oh u wont be able to get into research later if you wanted to if you become a DO

and then he said DO's wont be able to work in big hospitals, they will just end up at small community ones, not like medical schools or teaching hospitals etc like MD's can, true false?

basically i strongly consider DO school because i am sincerely interested in it, was ever since i heard of it, i was very open to it, so im set about it, just these questions i still would like to be cleared up.....

so basically, why MD or DO residency? research and DO? and where do DO's work usually? and anything u think can be cleared up from waht i wrote above

thanks guys!

If your friend is an international student, he probably only has a bachelor's degree in medicine anyway. 🙄

 

[Oculus Sinistra]

thaks guys, yeah it seems that a foriegn medical student is not the best authority on DO schools because since it is hard for him, he thinks anyone not in MD school is gonna have a hard time

Like i said i know people who did MD residencies as DO, one person did EMERGENCY MEDICINCE, something i am particulalry interested in

As far as the research route is concerned, It is not my MAIN goal, so im not going to just going to wait one more year to go to an MD school just simply for that, i mean Osteopathic schools do have research capabilities and facilities i think? and regardless, ill have a masters degree while im in DO school so i can get into research anywhere part time somewhere maybe? so i think that shud take care of my research goals, and evenso its not my main concern right away

and so why would a DO prefer to do an a lets say MD cardiology residency as compared to a DO cardiology residency? probably because of where they would be doing it i guess

well thanks guys as always, you all are great!

Actually, a lot of DO grads get matched into MD Emergency Medicine residencies. It doesn't seem to be a very difficult thing to do at all -- at least in comparison to matching into, say, ortho surgery.

If you are a medical student, DO or MD, you will have opportunities for research if you want to. If nothing else, you can take off a year between M2 and M3 to do research with places like the NIH. Although if I were you, I'd figure out by then what you want to match in and where and try to do research at THAT place... for instance, if you were a CCOM student (in Chicago) and wanted to match into Gen. Surgery at Northwestern... try to get your foot in the door there and make connections, connections, connections.

Cardiology isn't a residency but a fellowship... training you do AFTER you do an Internal Medicine residency (which are easy to get... in fact, if you want to go this route as a DO student you'll be happy to know that DO students matched into Internal Medicine at residencies affiliated with Top 10 Schools like Yale.)

Anyway, if I were you I'd apply at both type of schools and see where you feel the best. The options are out there. It's really up to you which road you want to take.