Do residents get high?

[DermViser]

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Yeahhh most people aren't at the top of the classes, that's how distributions work. I know of plenty of smokers in the top quartile in med school, getting engineering phd's at top ranked programs, etc. Do you think successful people don't drink either?

Did I talk about drinking alcohol? No.

 

[zeyad]

Yeah and those mj tokers are usually not at the top of the class.

Naive

 

[DermViser]

Naive

I'm talking about the rule, not the exception. There will ALWAYS be exceptions.

 

[gunnershow]

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[DermViser]

In my experience, cocaine is the rule rather than the exception for the people I know in investment banking and BigLaw. So using your reasoning, I can establish a causation between cocaine use and success? Or are you just touting naked correlations without considering alternative explanations? That maybe medical students by and large don't have the time to smoke or are deterred by drug tests during clinical years?

You contradicted yourself twice in the same sentence.

We're talking about medical students here, not those in investment banking, in which the risk is much greater with other people's money.

 

[gunnershow]

You contradicted yourself twice in the same sentence.

We're talking about medical students here, not those in investment banking, in which the risk is much greater with other people's money.

Sorry, how is that a contradiction? I'm limiting my scope to my anecdotal experience rather than making vast generalizations like you are. And the purpose of my analogy was to demonstrate the speciousness of your reasoning, not to make a direct comparison between medicine and finance.

But let me try to rephrase this. You said that it's not at all common for college students or medical students to smoke weed, but then backtracked and conceded that there are smokers, but just not at the top of your class. Let's take your premise to be true, that in a given class distribution, the top end contains relatively few marijuana smokers. What is the causation here? Without one, your correlation means very little. Do you assert that marijuana directly causes lower performance in otherwise successful students who have gained acceptance to medical school? If so, prove it.

I obviously contest this, but even if your premise were to be true, I say that it's more instructive to think about the opportunity cost of smoking weed (in that this could be time spent studying). Or, alternatively, one could argue that the personality of those who smoke weed doesn't lend itself to gunning for all As in preclinical results, which carry little clout in determining your residency placement.

 

[DermViser]

Sorry, how is that a contradiction? I'm limiting my scope to my anecdotal experience rather than making vast generalizations like you are. And the purpose of my analogy was to demonstrate the speciousness of your reasoning, not to make a direct comparison between medicine and finance.

But let me try to rephrase this. You said that it's not at all common for college students or medical students to smoke weed, but then backtracked and conceded that there are smokers, but just not at the top of your class. Let's take your premise to be true, that in a given class distribution, the top end contains relatively few marijuana smokers. What is the causation here? Without one, your correlation means very little. Do you assert that marijuana directly causes lower performance in otherwise successful students who have gained acceptance to medical school? If so, prove it.

I obviously contest this, but even if your premise were to be true, I say that it's more instructive to think about the opportunity cost of smoking weed (in that this could be time spent studying). Or, alternatively, one could argue that the personality of those who smoke weed doesn't lend itself to gunning for all As in preclinical results, which carry little clout in determining your residency placement.

I'm referring obviously to medical students only.

 

[Cytarabine]

I'm referring obviously to medical students only.

That didn't answer the vast majority of the post

 

[CherryRedDracul]

Uh, no. Just no.

Marijuana use was different common at my undergrad. Maybe a good 20-25% of my friend circles used.

In med school, drug usage is a lot less, but it's still surprising how many of them use marijuana, molly, benzos, and coke. A number of them are also in the top two quartiles. Then again, we're kind of known as the hard partying class, so we may just be the exception.

 

[MerickManual]

Marijuana use was different common at my undergrad. Maybe a good 20-25% of my friend circles used.

In med school, drug usage is a lot less, but it's still surprising how many of them use marijuana, molly, benzos, and coke. A number of them are also in the top two quartiles. Then again, we're kind of known as the hard partying class, so we may just be the exception.

Your class does drugs? I believe you, solely based on your account picture.

 

[DermViser]

Your class does drugs? I believe you, solely based on your account picture.

I wouldn't put muscle enhancement drugs in the same categories as the others. Unless you're assuming illicit drug use based on his tattoos. @CherryRedDracul 's clown makeup is probably photoshopped.

 

[mvenus929]

Your class does drugs? I believe you, solely based on your account picture.

There are a small handful of people who do (or did) drugs in my class. Marijuana is the most common, though I'm sure there are some people who use other things as well. Alcohol seems to be a popular one as well (and I mean more than just the typical partying on weekends thing).

 

[MerickManual]

I wouldn't put muscle enhancement drugs in the same categories as the others. Unless you're assuming illicit drug use based on his tattoos. @CherryRedDracul 's clown makeup is probably photoshopped.

It was a joke based on the dude sporting terrible lady's make-up......

 

[Kissmyabjj]

A lot of residents get high.

 

[Shikima]

A lot of residents get high on Medicine!


....and Surgery, Psychiatry, Dermatology, Pathology, etc.