Do schools know if you declined a medical school acceptance from last cycle?

[Tchotchke]

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[Tchotchke]

What school are we talking about here? For future applicants to avoid lol

just google it, but respect OP's desperate situation and sensitivity toward possibly being found out.

 

[Lawpy]

The key lesson here is the importance of making good school lists and avoiding applying to any school not comfortable in attending.

Now if I were in OP's position, I would withdraw my acceptance, take a few years off to strengthen my application, and apply broadly to both MD and DO schools.

 

[Toutie]

I think typically turning down an acceptance can be a dangerous thing to do. BUT there is evidence (that has been sited by a few here on SDN over the years) that it is not a death sentence. Although it is not recommended, one can be accepted in a future cycle after turning down an acceptance.

I think the main thing OP has to consider...re-applying will in not guarantee acceptance into one of her favored schools (a UC). OP will very likely NOT be able to go to a school in CA...probably her desire (which is why she applied to that particular school in the first place). So if accepted in a future cycle, she will likely end up at an OOS school (or possibly a CA DO school).

If OP turns down this school and reapplies she should make certain of a few things. 1. make sure you have made a significant improvement in your application. 2. point out financial reasons (no federal loans and no payback) for turning down the acceptance (I imagine in your secondaries?). and 3. Apply VERY broadly! Yes, it will be held against her by some schools, but probably not all if she applies broadly.

So OP, you have to answer this...do you only want to go to med school in CA? or do you just want to go to med school?

If you feel comfortable sharing with us, what are your stats? Or...at least did you have any other interviews? And if so, where?

 

[Dr. Stalker]

I'm considering reapplying because I improved my GPA/MCAT. I also got a publication. This past cycle I was accepted to a med school, but it is unranked and it's a new school (that infamous shady school posted around here). I know it's a major red flag in most school... since I've emailed them.. but--

My question: do schools automatically know if you've declined an acceptance from last cycle when they read your amcas? I just think I can get into a better non shady one.

OP. Medical schools may or may not know via the AMCAS, I forget. However, most secondaries will ask if you previously applied to ANY school, were admitted/rejected, and if admitted, they ask why you aren't there.

 

[candbgirl]

OP if you were only accepted at this unranked and shady school how do you think you'll now be able to get into a UC or Top 10? Or did you only apply to the unranked and shady school?


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[unicornshadow888]

What school are we talking about here? For future applicants to avoid lol

OP doesn't want the school mentioned on this discussion to protect their privacy. They already went through a lot of trouble to try to get people to delete the name of the school.

 

[unicornshadow888]

OP. Medical schools may or may not know via the AMCAS, I forget. However, most secondaries will ask if you previously applied to ANY school, were admitted/rejected, and if admitted, they ask why you aren't there.

Just a question: you're not considered a re-applicant if you start AMCAS, but don't submit it, right? (Happened to me last year; decided that it was a better idea to take a couple of years off and improve my MCAT score/get a little more experience).

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Just a question: you're not considered a re-applicant if you start AMCAS, but don't submit it, right? (Happened to me last year; decided that it was a better idea to take a couple of years off and improve my MCAT score/get a littlest more experience).

I'm not 100% sure, but I can't imagine you would be.
All you did was fill out the AMCAS (partially or entirely), but you never hit submit. That's like filling out a paper form and not mailing it. However, check with AMCAS FAQ or give them a call to verify.

 

[cactusman]

Just a question: you're not considered a re-applicant if you start AMCAS, but don't submit it, right? (Happened to me last year; decided that it was a better idea to take a couple of years off and improve my MCAT score/get a littlest more experience).

You're good (and even if it did show up, it wouldn't be held against you in this situation).

 

[efle]

The whole discussion of reapp status is kind of moot if you aren't competitive elsewhere to begin with. Did you get a bunch of other interviews besides CNU?

 

[cactusman]

The whole discussion of reapp status is kind of moot if you aren't competitive elsewhere to begin with. Did you get a bunch of other interviews besides this school?

And where did OP apply. The list included this school, it's possible the rest of OP's school list was a bad fit that was unlikely to get many interviews.

 

[efle]

And where did OP apply. The list included CNU, it's possible the rest of OP's school list was a bad fit that was unlikely to get many interviews.

I have a sneaking suspicion it may have been top 10s + all the schools in California...hopefully I'm wrong and he just chose to call those admissions offices for reasons unknown

 

[jackandjones1993]

For those out there exploring these threads in 2020, I wanted to give an update on what AAMC does now. I also asked numerous USMD schools. Things change and application cycles are long. Just know your past decline will not blacklist you.

 

[KnightDoc]

For those out there exploring these threads in 2020, I wanted to give an update on what AAMC does now. I also asked numerous USMD schools. Things change and application cycles are long. Just know your past decline will not blacklist you.


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Can the adcoms (@gyngyn, @Goro, @gonnif, @LizzyM) confirm that prior acceptance status is not attached to an AAMC ID? I'm fully aware that the MAR is no longer produced, but, given that AMCAS still produces a report after the cycle ends that tells all schools where their applicants matriculated, does it still provide you the means to know whether or not someone is honestly answering the question about ever having an acceptance?

 

[gyngyn]

Can the adcoms (@gyngyn, @Goro, @gonnif, @LizzyM) confirm that prior acceptance status is not attached to an AAMC ID? I'm fully aware that the MAR is no longer produced, but, given that AMCAS still produces a report after the cycle ends that tells all schools where their applicants matriculated, does it still provide you the means to know whether or not someone is honestly answering the question about ever having an acceptance?

Information regarding acceptances (current or previous) is not available to other schools. AMCAS does have this information associated with the specific applicant, though.

Although the results of previous applications are not given to medical schools, it is often given (with the best intentions) by letter writers.

 

[KnightDoc]

Information regarding acceptances (current or previous) is not available to other schools. AMCAS does have this information associated with the specific applicant, though.

Although the results of previous applications are not given to medical schools, it is often given (with the best intentions) by letter writers.

Follow up question -- since it's clearly a legitimate question (as evidenced by the fact that schools ask it, in writing, on secondaries), and since AMCAS has the data, and since providing the information would not require AMCAS to reveal the name of the school(s), why don't they make the information available to the schools, if for no other reason than to provide the schools a tool to validate information provided by applicants?

 

[gyngyn]

Follow up question -- since it's clearly a legitimate question (as evidenced by the fact that schools ask it, in writing, on secondaries), and since AMCAS has the data, and since providing the information would not require AMCAS to reveal the name of the school(s), why don't they make the information available to the schools, if for no other reason than to provide the schools a tool to validate information provided by applicants?

I've never asked.

 

[jackandjones1993]

Information regarding acceptances (current or previous) is not available to other schools. AMCAS does have this information associated with the specific applicant, though.

Although the results of previous applications are not given to medical schools, it is often given (with the best intentions) by letter writers.

Just wanted to pay it forward with the information I have received that you will not be "black-listed" like above posts have said. I have spoken directly with AAMC and AMCAS does not provide info to schools if you have been accepted to a school and then declined. If you have been accepted and declined an offer and then re-apply to the school you have declined, they will obviously know. Additionally, AMCAS does know and send information to schools if you have matriculated. I hope this clears things up for future people looking on the forum 🙂

 

[SweetBurger]

Information regarding acceptances (current or previous) is not available to other schools. AMCAS does have this information associated with the specific applicant, though.

Although the results of previous applications are not given to medical schools, it is often given (with the best intentions) by letter writers.

would that imply that you told your letter writers that you were accepted to a school and turned it down? What if you just didn't tell your letter writers.

 

[gyngyn]

would that imply that you told your letter writers that you were accepted to a school and turned it down? What if you just didn't tell your letter writers.

Whatever your letter writers have come to know about you may become part of their letter.

 

[jackandjones1993]

Just wanting to keep information current so people can make informed decisions 🙂

 

[AsprDoc]

This has only be true since last cycle. Prior to that all acceptances were centrally reported and attached to AMCAS ID.

Can you explain more on what you mean by this?I know you and other adcoms have historically expressed how negative it is to turn down an acceptance to reapply, namely for the fact that other schools are (were?) able to look at this information. I guess I have a hard time believing that schools won't have access to this information at all if they want to find it?