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OMM is subjective but it can be done wrong or it may be that the person just never learned the treatment. We still do have to learn it. If there was no risk of failing out for not learning it, it would be completely ignored.
Do the for profit schools have one?
But also for profit schools like RVU had a minimum of 350 at the beginning of dedicated, then they let us be. With this approach you would think more people would fail the real thing (though RVU actually has very high pass rates). I think they are just two different approaches. Hold students back because they are not ready vs hold students back because they failed.
Most DO schools if not all require you to pass the COMSAE with minimum cutoff score before allowing you to sit for level 1. That's not new.
You heard wrong
Brand new schools will want to milk those students as much as they can for tuition. They need warm bodies filling seats.
"But, but, everything's connected!!"
Nope. More like 2-3,000
At my school, it takes work to fail an OMM class.
Reread that line I included about the excess money, it is put back into programing and improvement, that is what happens to the "profit" you claim schools shouldn't have. When you become a practicing physician, should every dollar you collect go to you and your staff? No, the "profit" is what is put into new equipment, upkeep, expanding resources, improving research infrastructure, etc. It is just the money that doesn't directly support faculty/staff salaries, utility bills, rotation expenses, etc. Even though they are private, most schools are not for profit, which means there are rules and guidelines about where money can and cannot go. It isn't lining the pockets of corporations that own the school.
Spare me. Our tuition definitely goes to our parent organization. And we're a non-profit school, BTW. We have to fight for every f'ing dollar.
LOL, Goro I would love to sit down and compare notes with you sometime. I think we would have a ton to learn from each other. I enjoy your posts, insight and thoughts and agree with you the vast amount of the time and likely would in this case as well DEPENDING ON THE SCHOOL. I have been around the block long enough to know which schools hide behind the not for profit banner and which ones don't. I worked at one for years, so I know where you are coming from. However, like most things in life, I think there are differences in how other schools approach finances and I don't think some are as bad as people make them out to be. Maybe that is my rose tinted glasses or glass half full approach to life but it helps me get through the challenging days.
No they're not going to dismiss students just because they lose sights, what they would do is make students take a leave of absence if they absolutely could not find a new clinical site
Pay preceptors/hospitals more, raise tuition
No. That’s a Caribbean thing. There’s already another thread on here explaining that there’s not some grand conspiracy at osteopathic schools to dismiss students.
Same here. Out of 185 students, 25 students disappear. If you fail one class you get dismissed with no option to repeat the course or the year. Pretty malignant environment. And the school encourages a lot of students to withdraw instead of giving them a leave of absence.
I'm going to read their student handbook and how punitive they are
Pretty much they want whatever excuse to kick you out if need be. Reality is your time there will be correlated to being out of trouble and by how much you're liked
It's legalese. It gives the school wiggle room as some students are worth salvaging, while others are worth getting rid of as soon as possible.
Name and shame.
I finally got my OB preceptor, and I need to drive five hours to that place. A place has less than 20 restaurants and the only fast food chains are McDonald's and Wendy's, I don't know how I can survive now.
That would be a yin/yang situation!
As many already know I went to ARCOM, and n=1, but I particularly know a friend of mine who had to remediate our basic science courses at least 3 times during our first 2 years, but they always managed to pass their increasingly difficult/almost impossible remediation test. That person went in and pass both COMLEX Level 1 and 2 on their first try, graduated on time, and matched IM at a good comuniversity program down south at which they auditioned at. So that's one example where a new school gave a struggling student multiple second chances (and gained an additional 2 years of tuition in the process), and it still worked out in the end.
