DO Traditional Rotation Residency--> Allopathic 2nd year?

[Mad Cow]

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Hey all knowing SDN,
I am aware that as soon as you are accepted into a DO residency, the ?ACGME? dumps you off of any of their lists. How, then, can a DO grad do the traditional one year DO rotation and then get into an allopathic residency for the rest of their residency doldrums? Take it easy and hey, thanks.

 

[Fenrezz]

Hey all knowing SDN,
I am aware that as soon as you are accepted into a DO residency, the ?ACGME? dumps you off of any of their lists. How, then, can a DO grad do the traditional one year DO rotation and then get into an allopathic residency for the rest of their residency doldrums? Take it easy and hey, thanks.

You forgot to add "myth or reality" in your title.

Actually the DO who wrote my LOR did a DO internship year at a DO hospital, then went on to do an allopathic residency in Internal Medicine in New Orleans (a state known for being DO unfriendly). So it can be done. How much it's done nowadays I couldn't tell ya.

I imagine MD residencies wouldn't mind taking a doctor with already one year of experience, but what do I know.

 

[Mad Cow]

Some specialties, including radiology, gas, and pm&r, all have an internship year. It is my understanding that DOs can use the 'traditional rotating internship' as that year and then head off into their specialty. are there more examples of this?

 

[VentdependenT]

Some specialties, including radiology, gas, and pm&r, all have an internship year. It is my understanding that DOs can use the 'traditional rotating internship' as that year and then head off into their specialty. are there more examples of this?

Thats what I did. Called applying for advanced positions. Believe Optho and possibly neurology allows this as well. Double check that.

Otherwise you will have to either search out allopathic programs that will accept your TY as a PGY1 year and take you as a PGY2 (called gettin on the phone..usually require 6 months of floor medicine or something like that.). OR you go through the match again and repeat an intern year in a Categorical ACGME program. OR you seek out osteopathic programs.

Sound fun? Oh you bet it is!

 

[Vince]

Depends on the specialty. If you are going for an advanced spot in an allo program like Rads, Derm, Ophtho, etc. then its pretty simple. You apply for your DO internships, then wait for the NRMP to find out if you matched to your MD advanced position. Problem lies when there is a conflict. One of my MD radiology residency interviews was at a program that had a linked internship (not many of these around though), but if I had ranked a DO internship and matched, it would have taken me out of the running for that residency....and I wasn't about to give up a chance to be a radiologist by being stuck in a traditional rotating internship. I even applied to some DO radiology programs that have linked internships, but b/c of geography and the one program with the linked internship, I dropped out of the DO match and went straight with the allopathic match. I had to apply separately for MD internships but I applied mainly with transitional year internships so that there wouldn't be much trouble getting it approved by the AOA.

Fortunately I matched at a Transitional Year Internship that also has a DO traditional rotating internship counterpart and we do the same rotations so I don't forsee any problems getting it approved by the AOA. So it worked out for me but it all depends on which state you want to do residency in, and what specialty you want. I matched into a radiology residency in CA, so I didn't really have to have my AOA internship approved, but it'll be nice.

Good Luck.

 

[giznut12]

I am applying to dermatology (allopathic). Does that mean that I can only apply to the advanced positions or can I also apply for the categorical positions if I am also planning on doing an osteopathic traditional year. Or should I just apply to just apply to all of the allopathic programs and possibly drop out of the osteopathic intership match if I get alot of derm (allo) interviews at categorical programs? This is complicated 🙂

 

[macman]

please see the past combined match threads......this is exactly what most of the 3rd/4th years and pgy-1's are trying to tell the AOA and somewhat naive 1st/2nd years.

this whole cluster f&*$ could be avoided with a combined match. I really hope some current and future student leaders will read these threads and understand the crap many of us have to go through when figuring out how to match.

why does the AOA have to make things so difficult????!!!!

 

[J1515]

please see the past combined match threads......this is exactly what most of the 3rd/4th years and pgy-1's are trying to tell the AOA and somewhat naive 1st/2nd years.

this whole cluster f&*$ could be avoided with a combined match. I really hope some current and future student leaders will read these threads and understand the crap many of us have to go through when figuring out how to match.

why does the AOA have to make things so difficult????!!!!

I apoligize if this is a stupid question and has been answered already (i'm sure it has), but I'm assuming if they go to a combined match that MDs still won't be allowed to match in a DO residency? If this is true, how exactly is that fair to MDs?

 

[Sugar72]

Our dean said that it is true if there were to be a combined match - MD's would not be eligible to match into DO residencies because they will "lack an understanding of the osteopathic approach and the basics of manipulation". I think there are some MD's that are more enthusiastic about OMM and "osteopathic approach" to medicine than some of my classmates. Perhaps the AOA can devise a riduculously expensive OMM course and exam (written and physical) to give to MD's to qualify them to match into DO programs. I bet if that money-maker were written into the resolution it would spark a little more debate on the topic before the powers that be stamp it out again.
J1515 - you're right, it's not fair.