Do you get time for vacations? Do you have the money for it?

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I am a pre-vet and I'm having conflicting feelings about becoming a vet now. I am about to graduate with a degree in medical lab science that makes about 60,000 a year. I am really worried about the debt from vet school and I really want to be able to travel and enjoy life.

Are all of you able to do any of these things? How much time do you have do spend with family and do other things besides work? Also, what do you think about making 60,000 a year, is that more or less than what I would make as a vet?

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For vacation: it depends where you work. I'm not a vet so I can't say for sure.

But as far as salary goes you *might* make more than 60k with experience but don't count on more than 80-90k unless you either luck out, go into industry(that's a good gig) or specialize. If you think about it with 200k in debt it would take at least 10 years for you to see the payoff from the salary increase to 80k and my math didn't include interest. Obviously the exact numbers will depend on your situation.

Basically, DO NOT pursue vet med for the money. It's a bad financial investment. It's also a tough career. You will probably have less freedom than your current degree allows. However, if you really think it's your thing it could also be very rewarding. If you think travel and adventure and family can fill that need and it's a big priority for you (those are big time legitimate priorities!) then you might want to do some extra research and introspection.

Have you considered a masters (now or in the future) as opportunity for advancement and a change of pace should you like one? I also see a lot of job postings for biological techs working in animal related fields (check usajobs to see if you're interested)

Anyway, take some time to research your options, vet route or otherwise. Then if you choose vet school you'll go in eyes wide open.
 
It might be wise to take a couple years to work and see how you like the work that your current degree has trained you for. In this same time, you should learn more about the veterinary profession... you should know firsthand the kind of work and schedule a typical vet has before diving in. $60,000 is a decent salary to turn down in order to take on a lot of debt for a profession that may not pay much more (taking into account the opportunity cost).
 
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I am a pre-vet and I'm having conflicting feelings about becoming a vet now. I am about to graduate with a degree in medical lab science that makes about 60,000 a year. I am really worried about the debt from vet school and I really want to be able to travel and enjoy life.

Are all of you able to do any of these things? How much time do you have do spend with family and do other things besides work? Also, what do you think about making 60,000 a year, is that more or less than what I would make as a vet?

General practice is not where you want to be if having time off is a big priority. There are exceptions like owning a clinic and calling the shots on the schedule, being a relief vet and working when you want, only working part time (how are you going to pay back the debt?), or having one of those very, very rare clinics where they're good about giving time off.

But from what I've experienced and from what I see in my colleagues and fellow graduates (as associate vets), a lot of it is working hours you have little control over. It may also be very hard to get the time off you want. (There's a thread somewhere around here with ChickenLittle (a vet) saying how difficult it is just to get a week at the beach. She may also not have a job after taking maternity leave.

On top of that, your job may require you to take on-call. And the nature of the job itself is too erratic to have "general hours". The business hours will say 9am to 6pm. But that means anything from leaving at 6:30 to leaving at 11pm depending on what walks in last minute, what's sick, what needs help being stabilized until they can transfer to a 24hr facility, etc. Maybe you work 40 hours a week, maybe you work 80. Just depends on what happens. It's not a lifestyle that will accommodate grand travel plans and personal spontaneity.

Example: my best friend works as an associate in a 2 doctor practice. She technically has 2 weeks of vacation but never gets to use it all. Her boss has stipulated that she can't take off more than 5 days in a row. So forget a trip to Europe. Her boss also gets crabby when she does try and take time off, so she gets saddled with more work and more on-call.

The vets I do know that have gotten better vacation time are older and have worked in their practices for longer. Even still, we're talking about 1-2 weeks off. Nothing that grand. The ONE and only vet I know that travels the world is in his 70s. He started his clinic, worked 80 hour weeks, sold the clinic and now sails to mexico for months at a time. So... basically he retired to have his time off.

60k is a decent amount for a vet in my area. It depends on where you live. Busy urban areas are going to pay more but you'll have a higher cost of living. Being out in the sticks you'll probably make less. From when I am, I wouldn't expect much over that unless I was closer to the city or was going to specialize.

That said, there are likely vet jobs that have better schedules and more regulated vacation. Perhaps government vets, meat inspection vets, possibly lab animal vets (though they're on call too...). But not so much general practice.
 
When you have a ****ty employer (and there are a lot of them out there), on paper it might say you get 2 weeks vacation per year... but you may never actually be allowed to take it.

Also, if you work on a production system where you are responsible for making up for negative production or don't have a base pay, then vacation means you lose money.
 
From a financial standpoint, you'll most likely have less money available for travel as a general practice veterinarian than you would with your $60k/yr bachelor's degree job. Vets can make more than $60k, definitely, but not enough more to make up for the cost of school and the four years of lost earnings.

Two weeks of vacation seems to be the standard in most clinics, but ease of taking that time can vary. I worked in one multi-doctor practice where I don't recall ever having a request denied (though I was smart enough to never expect time off at Christmas or Thanksgiving!). My next job was at a small practice where I had slightly more difficulty with scheduling vacations because my boss traveled a lot for his hobbies (he hired me so that he could cut back to working part-time, so he was semi-retired), but I was still able to get my time even if not exactly when I wanted. I then worked for Banfield, where you get 5 wks/yr but I typically only was only able to take 2-3 wks/yr due to scheduling issues and requests were denied somewhat-frequently.

Now, as mentioned above, my current job is making it very difficult. My first year at this clinic wasn't too bad (except for the fact that we couldn't make it to my husband's family beach trip because boss wanted to go out of town that week). This year, though, I ended up only getting 6 of the 8 vacation days that I am supposed to get. I used my first 6 days of vacation with no major issues - a long weekend in the fall, tacked a few days onto a CE trip to visit family, and took two days off near Christmas for a visit from family. I was really looking forward to having two days left to take a long weekend at the beach this spring, but unfortunately that's no longer an option 🙁 My boss decided to close the clinic for New Year's Eve (yay!) but then docked everyone one day's vacation because it's not listed as a holiday in our manual (boo). Then he closed the clinic for a snow day last month and he also docked that from my vacation time. So... there goes my beach weekend for this spring 🙁 Finally, if I'm still at this job in August (highly unlikely - I'm actually in negotiations to return to Banfield), my boss has already told me that I cannot take a week-long vacation if I'm pregnant. This is a big extended-family trip that has already been planned for several months, but he said that covering for me for a week would mean that he won't be able to hold my job for 6 weeks of maternity leave. So, yeah. That sucks. (That, and a whole bunch of other stuff, is why I've actually decided that going back to Banfield would be better than my current situation.)
 
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I then worked for Banfield, where you get 5 wks/yr but I typically only was only able to take 2-3 wks/yr due to scheduling issues and requests were denied somewhat-frequently.
This seems to be the norm there. I had days that they were yelling at me to us or I would lose them. So I would try to schedule time off and it would either be denied or scheduled around.
 
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