Do you have to like science?

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

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Heres a question, yes the first 2 years of medical school involve a lot of science work, but how much of that science will actually be used in your medical school career and outside of step 1?

so heres a poll, do you need to like science to be a doctor?

Do know i mean HARD sciences ( natural world science)
not
sciences like social sciences

 

[j4premed]

If you don't enjoy the science of medicine, then why medicine?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

If you don't enjoy the science of medicine, then why medicine?

the 'art' of medicine.

 

[PrinceVersed]

I can not say that science is my strong suit. Most of the time it is difficult and boring. However, I am not sure how you could be a good MD without having a strong science background. Do you have to like all of it? Certainly not. I would hope that you understood a lot of it though.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I can not say that science is my strong suit. Most of the time it is difficult and boring. However, I am not sure how you could be a good MD without having a strong science background. Do you have to like all of it? Certainly not. I would hope that you understood a lot of it though.

Personally i understand science very easily, chem for me was a walk in the park. I just was soo bored of it, I mean for the reason why i personally consider medicine a art rather then a science. Science part of medicine is only in the fact that it uses a systematic method of diagnostic in my opinion.

 

[bannie22]

No. you guys are ALLLL wrong.

You have to like people.

 

[PrinceVersed]

Personally i understand science very easily, chem for me was a walk in the park. I just was soo bored of it, I mean for the reason why i personally consider medicine a art rather then a science. Science part of medicine is only in the fact that it uses a systematic method of diagnostic in my opinion.

I would say that surgery is very artistic and that any type of medicine would be more science based. I have had an anesthesiologist tell me that his job was a lot like cooking. A dash of this med, a sprinkle of that med.

No. you guys are ALLLL wrong.

You have to like people.

Haha. You don't HAVE to like people. Some of the MD's I know seem to loathe every pt/person they meet. But I agree that liking people and wanting to help makes things better. 🙂

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I would say that surgery is very artistic and that any type of medicine would be more science based. I have had an anesthesiologist tell me that his job was a lot like cooking. A dash of this med, a sprinkle of that med.



Haha. You don't HAVE to like people. Some of the MD's I know seem to loathe every pt/person they meet. But I agree that liking people and wanting to help makes things better. 🙂

More or less thats true, to be a good doctor you probably should know that you can go into a job field thats big on serving the peoples well being.

good post bennie 😀

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

bump

 

[niblet]

Maybe I'm naive, but I question how anyone could want to do medicine as a career without liking science.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

best poll yet.

 

[NickNaylor]

Best poll yet.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Maybe I'm naive, but I question how anyone could want to do medicine as a career without liking science.

Umm, well as bannie said before.. you like people and or you like the thrill of critical thinking. Idk science in the broad definition as a subject which is super analytical or a systematic method of figuring or testing something. I mean like i said outside of the aspect of diagnostic, its very much skill and art.

 

[randombetch]

I dunno, I voted yes. I think going into medicine without liking science is like trying to become a great swimmer even though you hate water.

 

[niblet]

Umm, well as bannie said before.. you like people and or you like the thrill of critical thinking. Idk science in the broad definition as a subject which is super analytical or a systematic method of figuring or testing something. I mean like i said outside of the aspect of diagnostic, its very much skill and art.

I'm not trying to be inflammatory, but what is it about being a doctor that is more appealing to you than being a nurse?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I dunno, I voted yes. I think going into medicine without liking science is like trying to become a great swimmer even though you hate water.

So you liked every pre-req class you took? I mean after taking chem 102 and bio, im just thinking about how applicable is this **** in medicine or real life? Am i really going to need to know half this stuff?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I'm not trying to be inflammatory, but what is it about being a doctor that is more appealing to you than being a nurse?

I think you just killed my argument... being a doctor is more appealing because you actually know why your doing something and the mechanism behind it .
But honestly more or less i think most of the stuff while it is science its not hard science like biochem its more like resident applied skill which is forged into the art of medicine.

i should probably have specificied, if you like HARD science like biochem and chem.

 

[bannie22]

I'm not trying to be inflammatory, but what is it about being a doctor that is more appealing to you than being a nurse?

interviewing already huh.😳
I was never asked that question at interviews.

And in response to seren, I do love science though. I just love people more.

But, I also hate people. =P

I think you can only really like something if you also really hate something at the same time.

ahhh... 😳

 

[bannie22]

I think you just killed my argument... being a doctor is more appealing because you actually know why your doing something and the mechanism behind it .
But honestly more or less i think most of the stuff while it is science its not hard science like biochem its more like resident applied skill which is forged into the art of medicine.

i should probably have specificied, if you like HARD science like biochem and chem.

Naw, you dont need it so accurate.

And what makes hard science hard anyway.

 

[randombetch]

So you liked every pre-req class you took? I mean after taking chem 102 and bio, im just thinking about how applicable is this **** in medicine or real life? Am i really going to need to know half this stuff?

Haha, yeah actually I did enjoy learning chemistry and physics (had huge epiphanies while reading the textbooks!), and I LOVE my organic chemistry class.

I think you just killed my argument... being a doctor is more appealing because you actually know why your doing something and the mechanism behind it .
But honestly more or less i think most of the stuff while it is science its not hard science like biochem its more like resident applied skill which is forged into the art of medicine.

i should probably have specificied, if you like HARD science like biochem and chem.

Hahaha, welllll you do get a lot more control and responsibilities as a doctor. If that fits your personality better, then being a doctor would definitely be the better choice.

 

[bannie22]

Haha, yeah actually I did enjoy learning chemistry and physics (had huge epiphanies while reading the textbooks!), and I LOVE my organic chemistry class.



Hahaha, welllll you do get a lot more control and responsibilities as a doctor. If that fits your personality better, then being a doctor would definitely be the better choice.

Sounds like Randomb

 

[Kaiv Man]

science is a tool (the best tool) to solve problems using empirical data
how could you not like science and want to practice science-based medicine?

the point of pursuing a doctorate in medicine through allopathic and osteopathic schools is to be proficient at science-based medicine

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Naw, you dont need it so accurate.

And what makes hard science hard anyway.

Hard science : (natural world science bio,chem,physics), involves having a extremely long and tedious lab which leaves people thinking that they have actually learn something.

 

[bannie22]

u just listed all the sciences 🙂

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

science is a tool (the best tool) to solve problems using empirical data
how could you not like science and want to practice science-based medicine?

the point of pursuing a doctorate in medicine through allopathic and osteopathic schools is to be proficient at science-based medicine

I mean to say Hard sciences. Not science as act of using systematic studies to understand something.
I like science in the sense that its systemic and provides a cause and effect thing and is factual. But when i think of pre-med classes like chem and physics im left thinking this stuff is really inapplicable to life and really really really boring.

I need to be more specific sometimes. XD

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

u just listed all the sciences 🙂

Not the social sciences. They are sciences on the basis that they do have a systemic method of understanding and testing things. I find these sciences slightly more applicable to life.

 

[bannie22]

Not the social sciences. They are sciences on the basis that they do have a systemic method of understanding and testing things. I find these sciences slightly more applicable to life.

Haha.. I never considered the social sciences to be social sciences.

I consider it a name and not a subcategory of science...

But yeah. Nobody is going to misunderstand your question... we are all primed to think sciences as in sciences.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Haha.. I never considered the social sciences to be social sciences.

I consider it a name and not a subcategory of science...

But yeah. Nobody is going to misunderstand your question... we are all primed to think sciences as in sciences.

I've always thought of social science's and science because they use the scientific method to prove/test something.

I should probably re-do this question another time with more specifics....

 

[bannie22]

scientology

 

[circulus vitios]

I think you have to like science, but not necessarily doing science (research.)

 

[coldweatherblue]

You don't need to have basic sciences (biology, anatomy, cell, chemistry, physics, etc) be your one and only interest. I would say that it's much better to genuinely like people (all kinds of people..) and want to help them out with their problems. If you have that quality the work will all be worth it.

However, you should definitely get some kicks from blowing your mind with bio, o-chem, physics, etc. That stuff really is amazing when you first "really get it". You should be good at using scientific principles to understand problems. If you have trouble with basic sciences and just don't get any enjoyment at all from using that knowledge to solve problems, God help you if you get into med school.

 

[Morsetlis]

Physician.
[Middle English fisicien, from Old French, from fisique, medical science; see [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1] physic[/SIZE]..]
I would also agree that medicine is an art. However, it is an art that is based on science and requires science. Before that you had snake oils, Tibetan monks, shamans, bloodletting, and acupuncturists. Although modern medicine cannot afford 100% certainty, it is certainly more rigorous and proven than other artistic endeavors. Regarding surgery, I would hate to be treated by a surgeon with no knowledge of anatomy and physiology.

The body should be understood as an integrated system. That comprehension is science. Science isn't always beakers, pipettes, and PCR.

 

[Narmerguy]

You asked two questions and only allowed one answer 😕

 

[roseglass6370]

I voted, but I feel like this poll would be better suited elsewhere. Most of the people posting in this forum haven't become doctors yet and therefore don't have as educated an opinion on it.

I chose "yes," by which I mean that a genuine interest and curiosity in the sciences are probably needed. I don't think you have to LOVE o-chem, but I think it's best to have a bit of an interest in it.

More importantly you should enjoy people and recognize the relationship between the biological sciences and the healing and treatment of the people you care for. I hated science before I got into medicine. Now I can't get enough of it.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

LOCK PLZ
Im going to retry this poll soon with the question.

"Do you like science labs". (look me a while to get some composure into what i actually wanted to ask lol)