Does anyone else have a problem with this?

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Specialist-nurses-paid-higher-hmoney-2327465018.html?x=0

just curious to know overall opinions, especially those of the anesthesia residents/attendings.

 

[thedrjojo]

"Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. "We all deliver anesthesia the same way."

Oh boy...

 

[ranmyaku]

Particularly depressing, especially after I just got a 'recruitment lecture' two days ago from the offices of several hospitals in my area. They put up the average salary for starting in private/group practice and hospitalist (this is for IM). Something like 110-115k for private/group practice, 190-200k for hospitalist. So the nurse is gonna make 60% more than me if i do private practice or nearly the same salary as a hospitalist....great. I owe 250k in loans as well. Man did i pick the wrong profession.

 

[HB921]

Well, its not just "a nurse", these are CRNAs who do get a lot of training. And they still make a whole lot less than Anesthesia attendings. Infact, the difference between an RN's salary and a IM/FM Physician in Private/group practice may be less than the difference between the salary of a CRNA and an Anesthetist
But I'm not sure about this one - "Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. Really?

 

[pem8erly]

I am curious as to how much extra school the nurses have to attended to get the credential. Because since they "deliver anesthesia the same way" that would mean that anesthesiologist are WAAAAY over trained and we need to drop their residency to meet the number of years the CRNA train for.

 

[Southpaw]

There's a detailed discussion about this article and the differences between physican Anesthesiologists and CRNAs in the Anesthesiology forum if anyone is interested. Needless to say, yes there is a huge difference in training between a resident physician and a Masters in Nursing.

 

[DoctwoB]

I am curious as to how much extra school the nurses have to attended to get the credential. Because since they "deliver anesthesia the same way" that would mean that anesthesiologist are WAAAAY over trained and we need to drop their residency to meet the number of years the CRNA train for.

CRNA = bachelors in nursing (4 years) + at least 1 year of paid CC nursing experience (note that most places will likely not hire a CC nurse with no prior nursing experience) + 2 years CRNA school = 7+ years, paying for 6 years of school

Anesthesiologist = bachelors (4 years) + med school (4 years) + residency (4 years) = 12 years, paying for 8 years of school + long hours during residency.

 

[Southpaw]

I am curious as to how much extra school the nurses have to attended to get the credential. Because since they "deliver anesthesia the same way" that would mean that anesthesiologist are WAAAAY over trained and we need to drop their residency to meet the number of years the CRNA train for.

Anesthesiologists aren't overtrained, in fact, fellowships exist for Regional, Cardiac, Neuro, OB, Pediatrics, and Critical Care because of the fact Anesthesiology as a field is so diverse and subspecialized. You'd be wise to research the political issues at hand, rather than believe what the AANA has to say about our training. The anesthesiology forum is a good place to start.

 

[md2010sgu]

If you want to see some real hatred towards CRNA's right now go to the Anesthesiology forum where there was a post about this early yesterday...

 

[medicinesux]

Frankly, I don't see what is so surprising about this article. This is old news that I have been preaching about since I've been on SDN. In the future, we will soon be seeing articles about even more professions that have leapfrogged the salaries of physicians which require only a fraction of the education and hours.

 

[deleted87716]

This is old news

I never thought I'd say this in response to one of your posts, but...I agree. 😉

 

[medicinesux]

I never thought I'd say this in response to one of your posts, but...I agree. 😉

Did hell just freeze over? 😱

 

[deleted87716]

Did hell just freeze over? 😱

Check your thermometers.