Does anyone know about SUNY upstate?

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musm2008

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my husband just accepted a job near Syracuse, so I'm hoping to do some 4th year electives there (I'm a 3rd year.) I'm also hoping that I'll really like it so we can stay there for my residency. Being in the south, I know nothing about it.
My grades are pretty average, so I wouldn't be expecting to go to Harvard or Duke or similar anyway. Just hoping for a friendly, supportive program where I can learn to become good at what I do and can find some open doors when I'm through with residency. I've been thinking about child or C-L.
 
Hi there;

I'm an MS2 at Upstate interested in psychiatry; I've been bothering various faculty members at the department with my unbridled, nerdy enthusiasm for almost 2 years now, including a summer "fellowship" for med students in consult liaison psychiatry.

I've found the department to be a genuinely warm, kind-hearted group of people who not only care very deeply about the mental health population in Syracuse, but also their students/residents. The attendings I've met are quite friendly--almost without exception--and down to earth, too.

From what I know about the residency program (talking with residents, etc.), they focus a lot of the education of their residents in whatever "track" they want to pursue--psychopharm, psychoanalysis/various therapy modalities, addiction, etc, etc. There are lots of morning lectures/grand rounds and from what I observed in C-L and on the inpatient floors, the lectures really seem to be protected resident time (i.e., the attendings will take over floor duties for you right away and not give it a second thought when you have other resident duties to perform).

So all in all, I know that most of the residents are very happy here in the psych program. Oh--also, excitingly (for ppl in psych), the Dept. of Psychiatry at upstate is the highest funded department in terms of research dollars this year, beating out even the clinical medicine departments (this is probably because of the protracted nature of some of the studies, by design requiring multiple patient visits and lots of staff to analyze data, but still.) 😉 There is a lot of research happening, but at the same time, the faculty wants its residents to want to get involved and be excited about it--they offer a lot of options.

They also offer an MPA degree with the psych training through the Syracuse University "Maxwell School of Citizenship", which is apparently the best school in the US for public administration (to help psych residents prepare for running mental health/social services on a larger scale, or consulting in the admin of such programs).

I guess the downside of the residency would be that Syracuse is a far cry from the Southeast as far as weather. The city is small, and social services are not what they should be (surprise surprise), but practicing here isn't as frustrating as in NYC, I've heard, where the sheer volume of ppl in need of services is extremely overwhelming. In general, there are some great teams of social workers in Syracuse (masters and BA level) who really want to see the down-and-out locals do better. So it can be very rewarding, too, in a lot of ways, to help direct the social services or consult with these teams to do the right thing for the patients.

Hope that's of some help to you.

Oh yeah, BTW--my wife and I are thinking about staying in this area (we're from New England) because the housing market is awesome (lots of house for less money than Boston, NY--not sure how it compares to the South though), and the school systems in the nicer suburbs are pretty great too. It's a nice place for professionals to settle down because the cost of living is fairly low--so you can save more money, do some traveling, etc. There are tons of outdoor activities in the Finger Lakes region or the Adirondack Mnts, too. The downside is.... it SNOWS... A LOT, usually (though the past 2 winters have been mild). And it's far away from major cities and we miss Boston terribly (though you probably wouldn't).

Anyway, hope that helps. Good luck!
 
Thank you so much. that helps a lot. We've lived in the North before. We both went to college in Vermont, so the cold won't be a surprise. My husband is from outside of Boston too, but NY is a lot close to Boston that GA is, so we're just happy to be within a day's driving distance.
I was hoping to hear good things about the program. It's great to hear that you would stay for residency. I hope we like it there. Do graduates of the residency program stay in Syracuse often? Does it have a good reputation in the psych community?
The next year or so will be tough for us because I'll be going back and forth between GA and NY.
The only other tough thing is that my husband will actually be working in Rome, NY. So we'll try to live somewhere in between, but I don't know how that's going to work out with the weather. Would a 25-30 minute commute be hard to do? Do you know of any good places to live that far East of Syracuse? How often is the weather so bad that they close highways and such. It only happened once in a while in Vermont. Hopefully by then I will be able to trade in my little honda for an SUV.
Sorry for all the questions. I know 2nd years have better things to do with their time🙂
 
Not sure about the East side of the city. They're usually good with snow removal (cuz it snows all the time), so it shouldn't be too bad. Did you mapquest the Rome, NY trip? It might be a big hike for you. As for Upstate undergrads staying for the psych residency--I don't think it happens a lot, but honestly, I think it's more the curse of Syracuse than anything else. Most ppl want to get out of Syracuse after 4 or more years here, especially if they're still younger, single, wanting to travel rather than settle down, see larger cities or really reach for the top 10 programs, etc.

I'm not really sure how the Psych program holds up when compared to Harvard, but I think for a program its size it's considered among the better ones. Some programs at Upstate have a better reputation in their field than others--psych is one of the ones that's on the upswing. Check out the website for more info--there may be residents listed on there you could contact. If not, you could always e-mail the residency director, Dr. Manring, who is a very personable, down-to-earth attending in the Dept. who may be able to give you the official info regarding the program (hours, committment required, rankings, etc, etc). Like I said, I'm just a MS2! 😉

Good luck to ya!
 
i had an interview there. great program. i am not a fan of syracuse though. here r the things that stood out:

1) top MPA program (#1 in the country- maxwell i believe) u can do with the residency. for free. a 40,000$ value. also the program director or chairman (cant remember who) will host dinner at his house on weekends to give u didactics u may have missed from attending the MPA. he is very dedicated to have this link up.

2) since i got psychoanlayzed during the interview, it is fair to say this program teaches psychotherapy well. does a good job in psychophar i believe.

3) it is a flexible program with its tracks and all.

overall the residents seem happy. cant remember the call schedule. since it is free if u do go here find out and apply to the MPA program. later on maybe u can withdraw ur application to MPA but even if u are not interested in it, it is free.
 
masters in public administration. good for getting certain jobs like PD or unit chief, etc. maybe govt sector jobs as well.
 
Do you think you would have enough time as a resident to get a master's? Do you think you will rank the program? What's wrong with Syracuse. Sorry for all the questions. I've NEVER been there and could potentially be spending a good many years there and am just very curious.
 
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