Does being a US citizen help with IDP admissions

[Khurram]

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hey guys,
i was born and raised in new york and i just finished my bds from pakistan, i just went to pakistan to do my dental school from there. So do you think that my being an american citizen will help my chances in any way of geting admission in teh IDP programs...obviously i know that i have to have an incredible part 1 score and decent gpa but do u think citizenship makes a difference...any help would be appreciated...take care people
😀

 

[Khurram]

i just got done reading the post about the unfair admissions,
and please by know that in NO WAY do i mean to be unfair to non us citizens or non residents by the question I am asking.l..nor do i think i can take it easy when i take my board exam...trust me i'm studying my tail off day in day out for four months now just like everyone else is putting in a solid effort i'm sure ...it was just a question that crossed my mind i dont mean to offend anyone by it so please do not take it personally. 😎 take care people

 

[Henna]

hey guys,
i was born and raised in new york and i just finished my bds from pakistan, i just went to pakistan to do my dental school from there. So do you think that my being an american citizen will help my chances in any way of geting admission in teh IDP programs...obviously i know that i have to have an incredible part 1 score and decent gpa but do u think citizenship makes a difference...any help would be appreciated...take care people
😀

Yes ! It'll definitely help.

 

[RoyalAlbatross]

Khurram:

My impression is that your citizenship status would not "help" you in gaining an admission to any advanced standing programs. The admission is based mainly upon merit, command of English language, personal character, references and board scores. Citizenship/residency would certainly "help" you with financial aid and loans, as well as getting in-state classification (for State schools). However, as far as I know, everyone who applies as an advanced standing student will be in the same boat. No-one will stand out amongst the crowd unless they have an exceptional educational/professional background, not merely showing off US passport or residency card who are hoping for a back-door entry into US dental schools.

The bottom-line is, "Does this applicant have what it takes in our program? What would be our gain when he/she is admitted?" At least with the US citizens/residents, the school won't have to scramble to get the I-20 to the student!! Talk about saving some administrative fees and paper!

Good luck with your studies, I know, I've been through Part 1 & 2 and know the pain and hassle of going through it. Hope you get the result you deserve and cruise into the dental program of your choice. At least, you won't have to worry about getting that elusive FAFSA!

Cheers!

 

[Henna]

If there are 2 applicants with the same scores and one is an immigrant and the other a US citizen, who do you think they'll pick ?

 

[chanchalpari]

i agree with RoyalAlbatross.I dont think u are at an advantage over the other applicants b'cos u r a citizen.It will help u only in schools where green card or citizenship is required.and that too only to consider ur application.rest only ur credentials will get you selected to a school. good luck 👍

 

[Bond]

If there are 2 applicants with the same scores and one is an immigrant and the other a US citizen, who do you think they'll pick ?

i agree with RoyalAlbatross they just wount pick u cuz ur a US citizen,but if it is a tie b/w citizen and non citizen both having pretty much the same credentials i am sure they will pick US citizen

 

[BBGUN]

i agree with RoyalAlbatross they just wount pick u cuz ur a US citizen,but if it is a tie b/w citizen and non citizen both having pretty much the same credentials i am sure they will pick US citizen

Technically state schools do favor state residents and in most instances do not even touch foriegners.But ,pvt schools would take anybody who can pay and meets their standards.Being born and raised helps a lot in basic people skills.You will be at an advantage to the major issue of language.No offence to anybody ,but do not be surprised if you come across people who do bad just because they have a thick foriegn accent.And ,generally people skills are different in different countries.So,that way,you can outsmart them.But,like Henna said sometimes they go for citzens because if everything matches ,then why not take the citzen?Atleast,they reduce the expenditure on stationary and cater an American rather than a foriegner.
I have come across students who can barely put a sentence of English together,but are in dental schools.TOEFL does not define much,especially spoken language.
That is where Khurram can beat out others.And,buddy NY rulz.
Drop a line when in NY .It'll be cool to meet more New yorkers.

 

[Khurram]

thanx everybody for your help and guidance...
and like i said i'm NOT looking for a backdoor easy entrance to a IDP program just cuz i'm a us citizen...i'm in teh same boat as the rest of you all...studying my tail off for this board exam cuz we all know our future lies in being able to secure a spot for an IDP program and acquiring a DDS...GOOD LUCK to everone...and thanx for your help..henna i totally understand your point of view about having to pick between a non citizen and a citizen if credentials are equal...but trust me beyond a doubt..that i'm totally against the idea of discrimination just because of a nationality issue...i wish only the best to everyone... and good luck with whatever your future endeavours might be...just pray for me and a good score on part 1 and no doubt you will all have my prayers with you...we have all chosen to go into a very competitive field without a question..andi only wish the best for all of you...BBGUN are u a new york native as well.... drop me a line on the pm and i'll hook u up wiht my email addy and we can keep in touch...are u in NYU or something...hook me up with your position and we can keep in touch so u can help me out with any questions that i have and vice versa...just pm me when u get a chance with ure email addy or whatever u feel comfortable with and your right ...NY DOES RULE 😎 😎 😎 😎 😎 .....take care eveyrone and thanx again for your help....i've never met as nice people as i have met here ......

 

[RoyalAlbatross]

If there are 2 applicants with the same scores and one is an immigrant and the other a US citizen, who do you think they'll pick ?

Unless they are identical twins who were separated at birth who share identical personalities, traits, physical characteristics, educational background... then your argument may be valid. However, such events are so remote that I think we can safely assume that would not be the norm. I repeat, everyone who applies to the program will be looked at individually. Then the admissions will look at the overall package, citizenship/residency issue set aside. (Unless, again, of course, the admissions guideline clearly state that only citizens/residents may apply... but then again, we have seen some flexibility to that rule recently... well, rules are meant to be broken!)

 

[Henna]

Unless they are identical twins who were separated at birth who share identical personalities, traits, physical characteristics, educational background... then your argument may be valid. !)

Actually this sentence doesnt make any sense 😀
But I get your drift. You needn't be that similar for them to pool the two together. And trust me this happens more often than not. It also doesn't mean that they get an unfair advantage but they are certainly preferred when everything else is alike. In fact, I know a couple of them who were on the waiting list with decent scores and US citizens with scores lower than theirs were accepted. I know them personally so don't even start with ....their personality might be...issue.. 🙂

 

[BBGUN]

Actually this sentence doesnt make any sense 😀
But I get your drift. You needn't be that similar for them to pool the two together. And trust me this happens more often than not. It also doesn't mean that they get an unfair advantage but they are certainly preferred when everything else is alike. In fact, I know a couple of them who were on the waiting list with decent scores and US citizens with scores lower than theirs were accepted. I know them personally so don't even start with ....their personality might be...issue.. 🙂

Henna is on the dot about this matter.I never even could understand the analogy used by royalalbatross.