Does having a medical diagnosis change treatment approach?

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Hey gang,

Another random question...when I see patients I really try to not look at any imaging or notes until I evaluate them first. I personally feel it adds too much bias into the picture and I don't want it to affect my clinical judgment.

Are there any studies that show whether or not knowing the diagnosis changes the approach? It's obviously different here in the US because a diagnosis has to be coded by somebody. I guess I'd like to know if there is a blinded study out in the literature.

Of course, I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.

Thanks!

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I know there is some research as far as LBP and imaging. There was an article I was assigned to read recently from JOSPT Nov 2011, I believe
 
Fozzy,

I don't look at imaging until I've done my PT exam. If you see something on the image and then do the exam, human nature is that the exam will find what the image shows, confirmation bias. If my exam correlates with the imaging, then good. If not, I don't let the imaging guide what I do as we all know that DI is not perfect and that certain pathologies won't also show up immediately on an image, like stress fractures, end-plate fractures, minor avulsion fractures, hell, even ACL and meniscal lesions are missed with imaging.
Also, if the patient comes in with a medical diagnosis, I take it at face value. There are too many examples of patients coming in with cuff tendinitis dx when they clearly have a cuff tear, tarsal tunnel dx when then clearly have neurological weakness, shoulder pain when its really from the c-spine. The examples are endless. The best scenario is "evaluate and treat" with the MD/DO and PT working as team, each knowing what the other's background, training, speciality, strengths, and weaknesses are. I cannot stress enough the team approach. PTs should be seen as independent and autonomous practitioners with a specific and unique skill-set and body of knowledge that should be respected and utilized.
 
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The kind of studies I'm looking are blinded where one group of Therapists is given a dx and the other one doesn't. I'm curious if the treatment plan such as frequency, duration, modality usage varies between the two groups.

Do PTs find value diagnostic imaging? Is there predictive value? If so, how does it affect the tx plan?
 
The kind of studies I'm looking are blinded where one group of Therapists is given a dx and the other one doesn't. I'm curious if the treatment plan such as frequency, duration, modality usage varies between the two groups.

Do PTs find value diagnostic imaging? Is there predictive value? If so, how does it affect the tx plan?

Fozzy,

I am unaware of any studies that have compared PT's practice patterns in physician referred with medical diagnosis vs physician referred without medical diagnosis. There is sporadic instances where a patient presents with a referral without a diangosis written on it, or they are referred but insurance doesn't require a referral and so we never see a referral form. In my experience, referrals rarely guide treatment. The diagnoses I have seen are non specific and symptom based (i.e. chronic LBP), or an ICD9 code (which often appears to be a time sensitive selection and inaccurate). Or they are anatomical (i.e. DDD) which is not very helpful either. I do remember reading parts of a study/report that mentioned that specific diagnoses are more common among orthopods early in their experience. Study reports can be beneficial, but random tidbits selected out of the report by a physician that he/she feels is relevant to a PT is not helpful at all(i.e. DDD). I do enjoy reading reports and taking it into consideration but isn't there poor coorelation between imaging findings and symptoms, and isn't there strong evidence to support not educating a patient as to the specifics of their pathology, i.e. in LBP? Another issue to consider is that diagnoses are often opinions, they are not definitive. Thus, we do not and should not just read a diagosis and take it as if that's the way it is. Just as you say you leave the report for last, PT's shouldn't be skewed by an opinion. For example, I had a patient a few weeks ago who was referred with dx of lumbar radiculitis. Her symptoms were present in B lateral thigh as burning with prolonged sitting. Lady was in her late 40's, desk job, probably about 140lbs. During day of eval she had no paresthesias and was her day off work, Full TL ROM without pain, negative combined motions, normal reflexes, no weakness, no tenderness in low back, normal sensation. She had tenderness over the inguinal ligament on palpation and almost immediately reproduced her symptoms when I held pressure. She tended to wear tight jeans. Seems like it was meralgia paresthetica so I told her to alternate between standing/sitting at work and wear looser fitting pants, plus some other exercises... Diagnoses are often time sensitive, opinionated and often made by people who don't do a thorough enough job or don't know enough. Diagnoses that would help me personally though would be ones made by a specialist (i.e. ortho, pm&r, rhuematologist) especially those that are rare. I would like to see diagnoses based on multiple factors (i.e. clustor of S/S, exam findings, imaging, patient ADL's/job, etc) vs just body part + pain.

An interesting study I would like to see would be a prospective one, one large group of PT's who have practiced longstanding PT on medical diagnosis referral vs a large group of PT's practicing without referral or medical diagnosis and see how the outcomes vary, practice pattern variance, PT job satisfaction, patient satisfaction, cost, danger, etc.
 
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isn't there strong evidence to support not educating a patient as to the specifics of their pathology, i.e. in LBP?
In an indirect way. A lot of literature shows (in back pain) that functional outcome scores are not improved and sometimes worse when MRI is ordered. As we all know, MRIs are going to show something and making patient's understand the significance and/or insignificance is the main reason I don't order MRIs as a non-operative provider.

Another issue to consider is that diagnoses are often opinions, they are not definitive.
Completely agree. Believe me, it's sometimes hard to code visits because you can't attribute all symptoms to one diagnoses just for that very reason.

Thanks for the input!
 
In regards to being "non-specific with our explanations.....

Actually, there is some strong evidence that in-depth patient education regarding the neuroscience of CHRONIC LBP improves outcomes. If you are interested, check out Lorimer Moseley's work on this at www.bodyinmind.org.

This site is the bridge between manual therapy and what it is we ARE really doing with manual therapy, that is interfacing with the CNS by providing non-threatening inputs and helping the patient move better through manual therapy and exercise (movement).

Cheers.
 
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In regards to being "non-specific with our explanations.....

Actually, there is some strong evidence that in-depth patient education regarding the neuroscience of CHRONIC LBP improves outcomes. If you are interested, check out Lorimer Moseley's work on this at www.bodyinmind.org.
Cheers.

Couldn't agree more. I think this is where some of the disconnect is when relaying information to patients. I always make it a point to leave the door open that back/neck pain (like most MSK) has a tendency to come back, as we all know. The value of a good rehabilitation program is in educating the patient on how to manage the symptoms versus perseverating on trying to find a "cure."

Thanks for the link!
 
The kind of studies I'm looking are blinded where one group of Therapists is given a dx and the other one doesn't. I'm curious if the treatment plan such as frequency, duration, modality usage varies between the two groups.

Do PTs find value diagnostic imaging? Is there predictive value? If so, how does it affect the tx plan?

I think there is value in diagnostic imaging, but only if it correlates with the physical and subjective exam. So, I honestly prefer that my patients are not scanned prior to coming to see me - it sets them up for perseverance of the pathology (which may be unrelated to their pain experience) and fear avoidance beliefs and kinesiophobia. I practice in an affluent area with a plethora of imaging centers around, so i rarely get what I want in this regard, and get to spend a considerable amount of time with a new patient explaining that the correlation between pathology found on imaging and spinal pain is often quite poor.
 
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