Does Medical School name really matter practically?

[masterMood]

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If you want to go into a top speciality like radiology or surgery for example, and you wanted to maximize your chances of getting into these positions.

Would it be beneficial to go to a top tier med school accrue lots of debt and supposedly have a better chance of getting the residency? Or is it better to go to the state school and save a lot of money but supposedly have it harder and be at the top of the class in order to get the residency.

I've been hearing conflicting stories but the general argument for the top tier med schools is that you're chances of getting a residency statistically are much better to get the residency of choice. However, does this take into fact how high-calibre the students whoa re at these top med schools and study very hard? Or is this just attributing the name of the med. school. Johns Hopkins for example, according to Princeton Review, has all or most of its students going into competitive spots even if the students are at the bottom of their med. class.

Like the undergraduate college to grad school scenario. It is true that it makes it much easier to get into a reputable grad school if you go to a top tier undergrad school. However it is also true that you can go to Bob Jones University in Alaska and still end up at a top tier med school although luck and extremely good stats would have to balance.

Now if the student went to their state med school, saving a lot of money, or a low tier med school (where statistically most of the students go into family practice, and very few get into top specialties), would this decrease their chances a lot (med school is hard wherever you go, but why the disparities in residencies?)

 

[rambo]

you need to change your study habits. that means you need to work harder (unless you're stupid, the pre-med requirements are doable for anyone with reasonable intelligence as long as they study hard), and learn to study effectively.

So have you have not even started college yet? The only reason I ask is because you have been giving advice to people ( I remember one thread in particular where you told someone to re-examine their study habits). Stop handing out advice. It's ridiculous. You haven't even taken a pre-req class yet. The last thing people need is an overeager pre-premed telling them how to maximize their chances of going to med school.

 

[Bap2qwrq7]

The question of whether a school's reputation will help you in the big picture has some validity. I'm pretty sure going to an ivy league school or a top ten school will get some looks at your application. Reputation does matter but being in the bottom half of your class with average/below average scores at JHU or Harvard won't exactly impress people.

But if you want to go into an ultracompetitive residency then of course the school's reputation will help you out but I'm thinking that a school's reputation will only help you. By this I mean, if PD look at some guy's application and see it's a U.S. medical school but it is a state school, the PD isn't going to toss it in the trash because it isn't ranked according to U.S. News.

In the end, go where you'll be happy and you know where you succeed regardless of the cost. Even though private schools are expensive as hell, paying off the loans isn't as bad as many people make it out to be. I know I am not going to let the cost of a school really affect my decision if I knew I was going to enjoy the school.

 

[Ross434]

So have you have not even started college yet? The only reason I ask is because you have been giving advice to people ( I remember one thread in particular where you told someone to re-examine their study habits). Stop handing out advice. It's ridiculous. You haven't even taken a pre-req class yet. The last thing people need is an overeager pre-premed telling them how to maximize their chances of going to med school.

You dont need to have gone through *exactly* what somebody is going through to be able to give out advice. What do consultants do? They try to solve peoples problems. They wouldnt just say. oops, that never happened to me, so i can't help you out. Plus, a lot of people dont have time to go through and read a whole bunch of stuff on this board, they just have a quick question, and if somebody who may not have experience can help them by summarizing all that they've read on the board, its the same thing as if somebody "more qualified" responded.

 

[rambo]

You dont need to have gone through *exactly* what somebody is going through to be able to give out advice. What do consultants do? They try to solve peoples problems. They wouldnt just say. oops, that never happened to me, so i can't help you out. Plus, a lot of people dont have time to go through and read a whole bunch of stuff on this board, they just have a quick question, and if somebody who may not have experience can help them by summarizing all that they've read on the board, its the same thing as if somebody "more qualified" responded.

There's a difference between the qualifications of a professional consultant and that of a high school senior. All that I'm saying is the way he handed out advice to a poster who had a subpar GPA was to tell him that you have to be stupid to not get A's in prereq classes. It seemed pretty aloof for someone who hasn't even taken one.

 

[Haybrant]

ive got an idea: go to a top med school and be one of the top students

 

[riceman04]

You dont need to have gone through *exactly* what somebody is going through to be able to give out advice. What do consultants do? They try to solve peoples problems. They wouldnt just say. oops, that never happened to me, so i can't help you out. Plus, a lot of people dont have time to go through and read a whole bunch of stuff on this board, they just have a quick question, and if somebody who may not have experience can help them by summarizing all that they've read on the board, its the same thing as if somebody "more qualified" responded.

ARE YOU CRAZY! THAT'S LIKE A PERSON READING SCIENCE ARTICLES FROM SEVERAL MAGAZINES ON THE SAME TOPIC, NOT HAVING ANY DAMN EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD, AND THEN TRYING TO SUBMITT A PAPER TO BE PUBLISHED.

Ok, so that might be extreme, BUT DO YOU GET MY DRIFT!!!!????? 😡

 

[dr.z]

ive got an idea: go to a top med school and be one of the top students

😱

 

[LSUwannabe]

People match into virtually EVERY competitive specialty from essentially every US school. It should be apparent looking at match lists.

I don't think surg really counts as super competitive (although it was last year-I think) but do you really think someone in the 50th percentile at JH is going to get rads/optho/derm/ortho/ent/nsurg just b/c he/she went to JH/Harvard/UWash?

I seriously doubt it. Wherever you go it's about performance when compared to your peers. Top 10% at most US schools beats middle or lower at big name schools every time...or so I've been told repeatedly. Top 20% at upper schools might be equivalent to top 10% at a "lesser" school...I don't know.

If you perform in school you'll be rewarded. I suspect a higher ranked school would definitely be more helpful if you're interested in academia...

 

[Ross434]

ARE YOU CRAZY! THAT'S LIKE A PERSON READING SCIENCE ARTICLES FROM SEVERAL MAGAZINES ON THE SAME TOPIC, NOT HAVING ANY DAMN EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD, AND THEN TRYING TO SUBMITT A PAPER TO BE PUBLISHED.

Ok, so that might be extreme, BUT DO YOU GET MY DRIFT!!!!????? 😡

Except its really not the same .. at all. because this is a free public forum where anyone is allowed and encouraged to give helpful opinions. Its not a professionally moderated scientific journal. Nobody here really has "qualifications" that make them an "expert"

 

[masterMood]

So have you have not even started college yet? The only reason I ask is because you have been giving advice to people ( I remember one thread in particular where you told someone to re-examine their study habits). Stop handing out advice. It's ridiculous. You haven't even taken a pre-req class yet. The last thing people need is an overeager pre-premed telling them how to maximize their chances of going to med school.

For that comment, i have to say i've taken most of the pre-reqs either through community college, or through ap, and i'll be taking them again in college. And when i go to college, i'll practically have sophomore standing, so don't tell me i don't know crap about studying. Studying is something that is universal and advice for it is pretty generic. So don't tell me i'm just some kid who doesn't know how to study for college-level material. I've taken plenty of them and i'm pretty much a college student already. Furthermore, pre-med discussions pertain to me because I want to do well academically and have everything balanced, not to mention that i'll be applying for an early assurance program in a year...

Secondly, it's better off that i tell you where i'm coming from instead of pretending i'm something i'm not so you can make your judgements accordingly. Obviously i'm not gonna give advice on what specialty or what med school to go to because i don't know anything about that. But the stuff i do know and i feel pretty strong about, i reply.

Anyways, going back to the topic, would you say that more people at the top schools get into top residencies because of their above average work ethic and hardwork combined with school name.

There has to be something special about the top med schools because you have so many applying to these schools compared to other med schools.

 

[DrBowtie]

I think that while the school's name could be used as a tiebreaker or give the app a little boost it is not significant.

If you go to a top 10 school, whether it is "competitive" or not, you will be competing with more people who have superior stats coming in and hence will probably continue at that level. So in practically, you will have a tougher time getting awards and honors.

If you go to a lesser known school, (assuming if you can get into an ivy) that you will be at the top of your entering class. So most likely you will continue to be near the top getting AOA and other desirable credentials for your residency app.

As long as you excel where you are then it should be no prob, and with that said it would probably be easier to excel at a lesser known school.

 

[dopaminophile]

Maybe I'll get hammered for this, but I don't care. There's a reason the top med schools are top. They have the best professors, have the most money, get the best research grants, are affiliated with the best hospitals, and provide the best opportunities for graduates. Take a MS4 at school A and a MS4 at school B. School A has Greatest Doctor (yes I'm reading "House of God") doing nobel prize research on spinal cord injuries with a 3 million dollar grant. School A also has similar activities in every department and in clinical rotation that the MS4 has encountered, and many know him or her by name. MS4 at school A met Greatest Doctor and got to spend an extra year doing ground breaking research with him. The MS4 at school B got to see the reasonably famous Awesome Surgeon that's chief of surgery once, but hasn't ever met him because every student, resident, and attending in the school are in line to slurp up his crumbs at the dinner table. Both MS4's are smart and did well on their boards, but the clinical and research powerhouse that is school A has allowed the first MS4 to get brilliant recommendations from several brilliant doctors. His residency interviewers also read that article in "Nature" that he co-authored. Our MS4 at school B did some incomplete research and maybe got it published in the quarterly "Journal of Psychoneurowhatever". The research was exciting, but the school had to cut funding after the first round of experiments because they couldn't handle the financial risk of alienating benefactors that thought stem-cell research is unethical. MS4 at school B got some excellent recommendations from solid clinicians, but those neurosurg interviewers at Johns Hopkins have his file right next to that of the MS4 from School A. They can't help but choose the kid who took advantage of the opportunities that his school offered him. MS4 from school B will make a great doctor, but the opportunities offered at better medical schools are just better. Otherwise we would all think of an MD from Podunk School of Higher Learning as the same as an MD from Haavaad.

That being said, a student at Podunk U. SOM can do well and create opportunities for him/herself. Similarly, a student at the big 10 could be a flunkie and not take advantage of the opportunities surrounding him or her.

This whole scenario is dependent on one trying to get into an ultracompetitive residency and ultracompetitive fellowships. If you're not interested in that sort of thing, then you need to not go to one of those schools. My own state school has been mentioned in one of the "worst schools" threads several times, Marshall U. Well, if you want a research powerhouse or a career in cardiothoracic surgery, maybe Marshall isn't for you. If you want a career in rural medicine, there's no better place on the planet to go to medical school.

 

[Ross434]

I think that while the school's name could be used as a tiebreaker or give the app a little boost it is not significant.

If you go to a top 10 school, whether it is "competitive" or not, you will be competing with more people who have superior stats coming in and hence will probably continue at that level. So in practically, you will have a tougher time getting awards and honors.

If you go to a lesser known school, (assuming if you can get into an ivy) that you will be at the top of your entering class. So most likely you will continue to be near the top getting AOA and other desirable credentials for your residency app.

As long as you excel where you are then it should be no prob, and with that said it would probably be easier to excel at a lesser known school.

there is a factor of - people who have high stats getting into ivy league schools and then slacking off because they just want the name, and they dont really feel the need to go any further.

 

[drguy22]

im just gonna use my school as an example...it isnt ranked by the godly US news...we had

11 orthopedic surgery
7 optho
9 radiology


there were a whole bunch of surgery as well this year...the match list is posted somewhere.

some people may not like hearing it but those numbers up there are WAY above average for any medical school, even by the ones the almighty US news ranks as the "top".

so does it matter...NO.

 

[masterMood]

what exactly are the ultracompetitive residencies? why are they so highly sought after by people? someone posted earlier on that surgery although is very competitive you can still go to podunk university and still become one if you do the required work and such.

but are we talkinga bout stuff like neurosurgery, or abstruse specialities most of don't even have a clue what it means.

what are the pros and cons of these highly sought for positions?

 

[Ross434]

what exactly are the ultracompetitive residencies? why are they so highly sought after by people? someone posted earlier on that surgery although is very competitive you can still go to podunk university and still become one if you do the required work and such.

but are we talkinga bout stuff like neurosurgery, or abstruse specialities most of don't even have a clue what it means.

what are the pros and cons of these highly sought for positions?

Highly competitive are plastic surgery, orthopedic surgery, opthalmology, dermatology, neurosurgery, radiology, radiation oncology.

um, the pros being making $500,000+, the cons being, some have long hours.

 

[Haybrant]

um, the pros being making $500,000+, the cons being, some have long hours.

um, you are really deluded about the $ in medicine. yah you can make $ like this in private practice but in all your posts you make it seem so automatic. there is alot of ish to put up with; if you want the $ a business related field is your best bet

 

[SitraAchra]

And when i go to college, i'll practically have sophomore standing, so don't tell me i don't know crap about studying.

I love it when highschoolers say stuff like this. I'm not trying to be condescending to you, but MANY PEOPLE here did the same AP classes and community college stuff you did. Undergrad is a different beast than highschool, no matter how many credits you're bringing with you. Every time I meet a freshman who struts around telling me what age they are academically, I smirk.

I'm sure you're hot stuff at your highschool, and you do sound like a smart person - but you need to realize that experience does play a large part in giving advice.

 

[masterMood]

stick to the topic.

p.s.
i'm sorry i'm not qualified to tell someone they need to do well in college, maintain a relatively high gpa, and do well on the mcats in order to get into med school.

next time i ask someone for directions i'll make sure i'll pick someone who is out of town instead of some kid who's lived in that town his whole life.

you're comparing apples with oranges. but when it comes to no brainer information, and questions pertaining to ethics, studying, general stuff like that, anyone can give advice. so for the general stuff, enlighten me, because i surely don't have the knowledge to tell someone they need to do this or that

 

[rambo]

Response in bold.

stick to the topic.

p.s.
i'm sorry i'm not qualified to tell someone they need to do well in college, maintain a relatively high gpa, and do well on the mcats in order to get into med school.

You aren't qualified. Pull up mdapplicants.com and see how many people fit that description and yet still had to reapply.

next time i ask someone for directions i'll make sure i'll pick someone who is out of town instead of some kid who's lived in that town his whole life.

You just validated the point I'm making. Thanks.

you're comparing apples with oranges. but when it comes to no brainer information, and questions pertaining to ethics, studying, general stuff like that, anyone can give advice. so for the general stuff, enlighten me, because i surely don't have the knowledge to tell someone they need to do this or that

You're missing the point. You don't have the experience to know how to juggle things in college yet. That means NO, you are NOT qualified. Look, I wish you the best in college, I truly do. But understand that humility should be a prerequisite for intelligence, just as ochem is for medschool.

 

[SitraAchra]

you're comparing apples with oranges.

i know, that's my point.

i made a quartet. must mean my post is somehow more sarcastic, giving me an edge.

 

[ForbiddenComma]

Why did this innocuous topic turn into a flamewar? Why? WHY?

Cuz I was also wondering just how *MUCH* of an advantage the harvard/JH/etc people have during match, and want to hear more. In between the posts, of course.

The advantage exists, granted, but is it only a tiny edge, meaning little compared to boards and GPA?

My school is also unranked by the "almighty" USNews and yet, we produce our fair share of surg, ortho, rads, derm residents. Yes, lots of people from my school go into FP but I think they were going to go into FP no matter what, as opposed to being "forced" into it. (the idea that only low-level applicants wind up in FP is an enduring myth, especially since it seems far more like real medicine than the cushy, well-dressed specialties like derm or plastics.)

I hear the difference between graduates of the best and the worst of American MD schools, is far more insignificant than the difference between a graduate of the worst American MD school and an IMG, or Carribean grad.

 

[masterMood]

thank you for staying on track with the thread 🙂

 

[BodaciousBabe]

More than once you responded to posters asking about low GPA's implying that they were lazy or plain stupid thus the resultant low GPA... They are asking for CONSTRUCTIVE advice not for people to point fingers. They did not give enough information for anyone to assume things from because no one knows if they had a personal crisis, family problems, etc.

You've admitted to taking courses at community colleges thus far so what if that poster came from a more competitive school say some big name Ivy league school taking out these "weeding out" courses? I was classified as a sophomore coming in from high school and my first year was still rough even though I was supposed to know the tricks of the studying trade. Personally, I Q-dropped my organic I class from my tier one university to take it at a community college over the summer because I did not want to risk a C and wanted an A. So maybe that makes me a dumb@ss too or a lazy schmo but medical school still awaits me in the fall.

Point is, there are some posters here who are very aware of those biting responses you posted and thus are irked. It wasn't hard to say to those posters "study harder" versus "study harder because youre a lazy *******".... (not exact words obviously but that's the feeling given off)...

---> So some people in this thread would be willing to not go see a doctor but instead go see a researching PhD for medical examinations?

/done.

 

[SitraAchra]

BodaciousBabe, your name and signature combination let me know you're a hottie.



i pray to god you're at least a girl.

 

[scrappysurfer]

Anyways, going back to the topic, would you say that more people at the top schools get into top residencies because of their above average work ethic and hardwork combined with school name.

There has to be something special about the top med schools because you have so many applying to these schools compared to other med schools.

Look, you are asking the wrong people. Pre-meds.

Do what I've done and speak with doctors. In competitive specialties. I've been working in orthopedic biomechanics for the last 3.5 years. My mother is an optho on clinical faculty at a Cali Med school. She went to Davis.

Over and over and over again, from every doc I speak to, I hear that your board scores matter more than your med school. From ortho surgeons ON RESIDENCY COMMITTEES. I hear that everyone has good grades and everyone has top board scores. They nitpick how you carry yourself in the interview and decide based on your interview. Yep, I've come across two surgeons from Harvard. But every one else teases them (in a good natured way). None of the others went to Ivies. I've heard everything in the book: UCSD, Iowa, Texas A&M?, Loma Linda, Case, Colorado, some random schools in the midwest. Yes, these are fantastic schools, but so are most schools in the US. That is why foreign students fight to get in here.

A friend from Trinidad (read *foreign med student*) just got a residency in ortho because he came here and busted his hind in the research world to position himself for a spot. I saw the list of his competition: Harvard, Hopkins, etc were there, but the man with the most life experience and the most mature view of the world got the spot because when he stood before the residency panel his life experiences were standing there beside him.

What you do with the opportunities given to you matters. A top med school will add a little wow to your application but not without a top board score to back it up. Getting into a top school is not a free ride to the world and not getting into a top school is not the end of the world.

 

[JohnBasedow]

If I recall correctly, this Hermitmmood character is in high school trying to decide what college to go to. The responses that he posts (using condescending tones and claiming that because he's taken AP and community college courses, he knows how to study at the undergraduate level) are quite laughable. Like I've always said, nobody likes a jackass...and in this case, I should extend it to say that I really don't like immature jackasses.

And to stay on the topic of the original post, the name of the med school you go to isn't as important as how well you do while you're there.

 

[LabMonster]

That's the impression I get - so - if, and when I get in, the first thing I will do is buy myself some step 1 review books and learn it cold. What I've learned about the MCAT is you can never start too early.

 

[KNightInBlue]

If you want to go into a top speciality like radiology or surgery for example, and you wanted to maximize your chances of getting into these positions.

Would it be beneficial to go to a top tier med school accrue lots of debt and supposedly have a better chance of getting the residency? Or is it better to go to the state school and save a lot of money but supposedly have it harder and be at the top of the class in order to get the residency.

I've been hearing conflicting stories but the general argument for the top tier med schools is that you're chances of getting a residency statistically are much better to get the residency of choice. However, does this take into fact how high-calibre the students whoa re at these top med schools and study very hard? Or is this just attributing the name of the med. school. Johns Hopkins for example, according to Princeton Review, has all or most of its students going into competitive spots even if the students are at the bottom of their med. class.

Like the undergraduate college to grad school scenario. It is true that it makes it much easier to get into a reputable grad school if you go to a top tier undergrad school. However it is also true that you can go to Bob Jones University in Alaska and still end up at a top tier med school although luck and extremely good stats would have to balance.

Now if the student went to their state med school, saving a lot of money, or a low tier med school (where statistically most of the students go into family practice, and very few get into top specialties), would this decrease their chances a lot (med school is hard wherever you go, but why the disparities in residencies?)

OP, before you look for advice on this board, realise that everyone who replied to your post is prejudiced by their own choice(s). Someone who picked a "low" tier school, like drguy22, will say name doesn't matter. Another who is gung-ho about a "top" tier school, like constructor or dopaminophile, may say the name of the school is the end all, be all.

Someone else like me who's gonna give up upenn to go to a "low" tier school because of the far better fin aid package (which makes it tremendously cheaper) may tell you to not pick a school based on what residency to pick YEARS from now. Instead focus, on more concrete things - location (far/close to family), cost ($250K vs $100K debt), opportunities (affiliated hospitals, faculty, research) and of course most importantly, your gut feeliing - where you feel most comfortable. Someone like me will say that it's incredibly shortsighted to pick a school in order to get into a certain residency because there are so many factors down the road (pre-clinical grades, USMLE Step 1, letters of rec, research.....) that make it virtually impossible to predict where you'll end up.

Basically, who you listen to is your choice. Just like everyone else with their prejudiced opinions, I am of course going to go ahead and say mine is the best 🙂 - pick a school not for residency, but for where you "fit" the best.

Good Luck

 

[dopaminophile]

OP, before you look for advice on this board, realise that everyone who replied to your post is prejudiced by their own choice(s). Someone who picked a "low" tier school, like drguy22, will say name doesn't matter. Another who is gung-ho about a "top" tier school, like constructor or dopaminophile, may say the name of the school is the end all, be all.

You misread my post. I'm not gung-ho about "top-tier" med schools and I doubt I'll be attending one in the fall. The reason being that most of them don't jive with my career goals and the type of environment in which I learn best. I am saying, however, that the breadth of fantastic opportunities availble at the highly funded, big-name powerhouses isn't a small factor.

I also disagree with the notion that you should only go to a med school because you feel good there. Yes, you should feel good at a school, but the nature of the beast is that we're going there as a highly directed career move first. If you know you want to be a neurosurgeon, then you shouldn't go to a school that doesn't have neurosurgery at any of it's affiliated hospitals. If you know you want to be a small-town GP, then going to a top-tier won't afford you the most exposure to what you want to practice. Going to a state school where general practice is the bulk of the clinicals would be a far more appropriate decision. If you can see yourself at an institution that opens the right doors for you, I would pick that school. I expect in the next month, too, that I will pick that school.

 

[KNightInBlue]

If you know you want to be a neurosurgeon, then you shouldn't go to a school that doesn't have neurosurgery at any of it's affiliated hospitals.

And how does one know s/he wants to be a neurosurgeon before attending med school?

My point is this - it's highly improbable to say exactly what one will do in four years (not to mention where). Which is why I advised him to pick a school based on the overall opportunities available instead of which one offers him the best chance for a good residency (this what I mean by "fitting in", not feeling good like you and your classmates sign kum-ba-yaa all day).

This way, s/he will have the luxury of choices (and no, its no just the big name schools that offer good overall opportunities).

But my original point remains - take all the opinions on SDN with a grain of salt since they are highly biased by individual choices (just like my post is). I'd be willing to bet my left nut that if someone attending a "low" tier school was offered a spot at a "high" tier school, they'd change their tune from "name doesn't matter" to "my school is better than yours BEE-YAAATCH!!"

So keep things in perspective, and pick a school that's best for you overall - cost, location, opportunities and of course, contacts.


Good Luck!


P.S.

Going to a state school where general practice is the bulk of the clinicals would be a far more appropriate decision.

This is incorrect. State schools don't focus on general practice alone.

 

[drguy22]

OP, before you look for advice on this board, realise that everyone who replied to your post is prejudiced by their own choice(s). Someone who picked a "low" tier school, like drguy22, will say name doesn't matter. Another who is gung-ho about a "top" tier school, like constructor or dopaminophile, may say the name of the school is the end all, be all.

woah dude...i didnt pick a low tier school..NJMS doesnt send in the US news ranking, therefore it isnt ranked...

 

[KNightInBlue]

woah dude...i didnt pick a low tier school..NJMS doesnt send in the US news ranking, therefore it isnt ranked...

FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST!!!!!!!!
I thought, according to you of course, that rankings don't matter. So what difference does it make if I mistakenly quoted you as picking a low tier school??

Seriously man, there's explaining one's choices and then there's defending one's insecurities. And yours are getting pretty transparent.

 

[dopaminophile]

This is incorrect. State schools don't focus on general practice alone.

I didn't say they focus on general practice alone. I said the bulk of clinicals are with generalists. I didn't even say all state schools do that. My state schools, WVU and Marshall focus largely on generalists, surgeons and family physicians because that's what the state needs and that's what their mandate is. Some people (myself not included) do know which direction they want to go when they enter medical school. I maintain that if one were interested in neurosurgery or the like (and many people know they are at this point), it would be best to try to get into a top-tier institution. If one were intersted in a generalist field, going to a school where clincals are oft taught by generalists, like WVU & Marshall.

I tried to make it clear that one can go in any direction from any medical school, but different medical schools offer different opportunities to their students. The top-tier medical schools offer a wider range of better opportunities, in my humble opinion.

 

[dopaminophile]

FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST!!!!!!!!
I thought, according to you of course, that rankings don't matter. So what difference does it make if I mistakenly quoted you as picking a low tier school??

Seriously man, there's explaining one's choices and then there's defending one's insecurities. And yours are getting pretty transparent.

Sounded to me like drguy was just clarifying for everyone. There's only one person here that seems to be going off of the deep end and it sure isn't him.

 

[masterMood]

eh, this thread was ruined from the start when people started flaming for no apparent reason...

 

[BodaciousBabe]

BodaciousBabe, your name and signature combination let me know you're a hottie.



i pray to god you're at least a girl.

<Cups manboobs and breathlessly says>: Yes, I am 100% bodaciousbabeness.

Just kidding. But about which part???

 

[drguy22]

FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST!!!!!!!!
I thought, according to you of course, that rankings don't matter. So what difference does it make if I mistakenly quoted you as picking a low tier school??

Seriously man, there's explaining one's choices and then there's defending one's insecurities. And yours are getting pretty transparent.

im def. not insecure...i dont have to defend anything..ill let our match list do that.

 

[SitraAchra]

<Cups manboobs and breathlessly says>: Yes, I am 100% bodaciousbabeness.

Just kidding. But about which part???

you tell me!