Does Psychiatry Residency name matter when job seeking?

[DoctrCatLady]

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Hi I'm currently interviewing for Psychiatry Residencies right now and I was curious whether or not the brand name of the program matters when you're applying for a position after finishing residency? Does it matter if you went to an academic institution that people would recognize vs a smaller community program? If it helps to answer, I don't plan to go into Academics afterwards.

 

[Sushirolls]

Nope. Unless its a small group in a bigger city that only takes name brand docs as part of their pedigree advertising. Ultimately, no. It doesn't matter. Chose the program that's going to give you a better a breadth of rotation exposure in the many subfacets of what constitutes psychiatry.

Remember, you are also entering a world where ARNP is ever increasing and some jobs will replace you with an ARNP, or other jobs will only hire you if you are willing to supervise a bunch of ARNP. In the community private practice, patients will mostly be concerned if you take their insurance and how quickly you can get them in and how close you are to where they live/work.

So unless you have over analyzed some niche business idea where perhaps you foresee name brand XYZ is integral to making it happen, don't worry about it. Go get 'em tiger.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

Hi I'm currently interviewing for Psychiatry Residencies right now and I was curious whether or not the brand name of the program matters when you're applying for a position after finishing residency? Does it matter if you went to an academic institution that people would recognize vs a smaller community program? If it helps to answer, I don't plan to go into Academics afterwards.

No.

 

[TexasPhysician]

Nope

 

[psych_0]

Applying for jobs now. I have gotten interviews everywhere I applied. Zero places seemed to care. Job interviews similar to residency interviews, basically them selling you on the hospital/clinic.

 

[MacDonaldTriad]

Emergency psych jobs are probably the hardest to fill and keep filled. This will not be a problem, especially if you don't mind working nights.

 

[FlowRate]

Have you come across any emergency psych jobs? I'm about 7 months out from starting to look myself. I love my psych er rotations just not sure how likely it is to find a job doing this 1-4 nights a week.

University of Colorado Psychiatry is currently hiring attendings to do emergency psych. If that's your passion there's even potential for an early leadership role. The people I spoke to there seem great, that's just not my specific interest.

 

[jbomba]

Emergency psych jobs are probably the hardest to fill and keep filled. This will not be a problem, especially if you don't mind working nights.

That's great to hear. Actually don't mind nights at all. Do they typically offer higher rate for nights too?

 

[Sushirolls]

Some might. Go interview at a few and find out.
Be aware some aren't actual Psych ED, but glorified crisis units.
I highly suggest you only look at the ones that are directly attached to an ED.
The glorified crisis units that are free standing, separate from a hospital, add the extra layer of logistics with transporting patients to and from the facility.
My experiences from working in a Psych ED we would have the occasional need to quickly wheel some to the ED and they vice versa. Concerned the geriatric behavioral disturbance in person with limited to no psych history isn't just alcohol or whatever but a possible fall, or a bleed, you want that CT scan...

 

[Mass Effect]

University of Colorado Psychiatry is currently hiring attendings to do emergency psych. If that's your passion there's even potential for an early leadership role. The people I spoke to there seem great, that's just not my specific interest.

Are they requiring fellowship? From my own job search, it seemed the emergency psych positions always wanted someone fellowship trained in CL, but I only looked at academic places.

 

[Shufflin]

They're stranded on an island. A boat floats by. Do they care where the boat's made?

 

[Animal Mother]

I suspect it would matter maybe somewhat for some of the more prestigious type jobs. Would someone from a low ranking community program have an equal chance of landing an academic job at Stanford or somewhere like the Lindner center or Betty Ford?

 

[TexasPhysician]

I suspect it would matter maybe somewhat for some of the more prestigious type jobs. Would someone from a low ranking community program have an equal chance of landing an academic job at Stanford or somewhere like the Lindner center or Betty Ford?

Wouldn’t effect you at Betty Ford, but I know little of the other 2 in regards to staffing.

 

[tr]

I suspect it would matter maybe somewhat for some of the more prestigious type jobs. Would someone from a low ranking community program have an equal chance of landing an academic job at Stanford or somewhere like the Lindner center or Betty Ford?

OP said s/he wasn't interested in academics. But academic programs mostly seem to fill their clinical needs with their own recent grads.

 

[SourceOfDenial]

For a non academic job no issues, provided you are well trained. Poor training is poor training regardless of where you are.

For an academic clinical job at a highly sought after name brand institution, you’ll have to make the case that you are more desirable than the other applicants, likely applying from bigger academic programs. Might matter, might not.

For a research position, you will have a hard time getting in the door, unless you had a great mentor to help guide you.

 

[PikminOC]

They're stranded on an island. A boat floats by. Do they care where the boat's made?

Obviously they dont care. They will reach for unqualified providers also.

 

[NewmansOwn]

For the majority of jobs, it will matter very little.

But because no one else seems to have mentioned it — the prestige of your training program matters a great deal in private practice in competitive markets. If you have any interest in starting or joining a practice in Boston, New York, DC..bear that in mind. Though exceptions will certainly exist, even in those cities.

 

[notdeadyet]

For the vast majority of jobs in medicine (excluding academics), the thing most relevant is your last job.

Coming straight out of residency, your residency experience matters because it’s your most recent work experience. A local residency usually trumps an impressive one because hiring docs find it easier to figure out if you’re any good. And some very prestigious residencies don’t hold the same water compared to some high acuity/volume programs of lesser renown.

After you get your first job, your residency matters less. Someone from Backwater Woods University who worked UCLA is more impressive than the Harvard resident that’s been working at Backwater Woods community clinic.

 

[hamstergang]

I've heard management get excited by applicants with prestigious backgrounds. However, we're also generally excited by any applicant who is alive and won't actively kill patients. It also seems to help yo have trained where other psychiatrists in the system have trained -- there seems to be a sense of camaraderie that makes them like you better from the start.

 

[psyguru]

It could possibly make a difference as an expert witness. But there are a lot of other ways to distinguish yourself as an expert witness.

For clinical jobs I dont see it making a huge difference except maybe niche jobs ( possibly academic research or private clinic for the 1%).