Does this constitute an oral presentation?

[blondemed]

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I know there are several threads on this already, but for my sanity ... would either of these count as an oral presentation?

1. Was awarded a research fellowship after MS-1, did about 3 months of research, wrote up an abstract which was published in our medical school "research day" hand out, made a poster and presented to students/faculty. The abstract never ended up getting published.

2. Was asked to present complex, interesting hematology patient case to attendings/fellows at a weekly myeloid conference while on elective. Students do not typically present at this conference. I'm guessing I'll get a no vote on this one ... it's odd because I showed both of these to my advisory dean and she seemed to think they were fine to include but after reading the advice in this forum I'm not sure. Help

 

[gutonc]

I know there are several threads on this already, but for my sanity ... would either of these count as an oral presentation?

1. Was awarded a research fellowship after MS-1, did about 3 months of research, wrote up an abstract which was published in our medical school "research day" hand out, made a poster and presented to students/faculty. The abstract never ended up getting published.

Perfectly appropriate.

2. Was asked to present complex, interesting hematology patient case to attendings/fellows at a weekly myeloid conference while on elective. Students do not typically present at this conference. I'm guessing I'll get a no vote on this one ... it's odd because I showed both of these to my advisory dean and she seemed to think they were fine to include but after reading the advice in this forum I'm not sure. Help

Not appropriate. Your dean is wrong.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

Interesting that GutOnc is happy with the first. I consider "Oral Presentations" to encompass "Peer Review" -- hence if the abstract was printed in a handout that included everyone's work, and everyone presented their work, then there is no peer review and I wouldn't list it. If you were chosen to present because your project was the best of the group, that would be a different matter.

However, the bottom line is what you feel comfortable with. You should of course list this as a research experience. But I would tend to be conservative and only list oral and poster presentations that were peer reviewed and competitively selected. But that's my personal belief.

 

[DoctaJay]

speaking of oral presentations. If I presented a poster at a national conference, but then I have also submitted the full manuscript for the project for publication do I list the same project twice...once for the poster presentation and once under the "Submitted for Publication" tag?

 

[gutonc]

Interesting that GutOnc is happy with the first. I consider "Oral Presentations" to encompass "Peer Review" -- hence if the abstract was printed in a handout that included everyone's work, and everyone presented their work, then there is no peer review and I wouldn't list it. If you were chosen to present because your project was the best of the group, that would be a different matter.

However, the bottom line is what you feel comfortable with. You should of course list this as a research experience. But I would tend to be conservative and only list oral and poster presentations that were peer reviewed and competitively selected. But that's my personal belief.

Actually, now that I re-read this, I admit that I am wrong. I mis-read the initial post. A poster presentation is NOT an oral presentation, no matter how long you stand next to it and prattle on about it. It can be listed under "Abstracts" or "Research Experience" but not "Oral Presentations."

I should also point out that when I did ERAS (lo these many years ago), it was not as sub-divided as it apparently is now. There was basically one spot for publications and another spot for "other stuff."

 

[atsai3]

Actually, now that I re-read this, I admit that I am wrong. I mis-read the initial post. A poster presentation is NOT an oral presentation, no matter how long you stand next to it and prattle on about it. It can be listed under "Abstracts" or "Research Experience" but not "Oral Presentations."

I should also point out that when I did ERAS (lo these many years ago), it was not as sub-divided as it apparently is now. There was basically one spot for publications and another spot for "other stuff."

Maybe the reason the CAF is subdivided like this is precisely because of all the upselling and misrepresentation. One would think that more finely grained and specified categories would be sufficient to give extra guidance to applicants.

-AT.

 

[moinmoin]

What about presenting research findings at a department grand rounds? I gave a 45 minute talk about the research I was working on for the department. Does this count as an Oral Presentation even though not peer-reviewed? It was kind of a big deal to me...

 

[Ludicolo]

What about presenting research findings at a department grand rounds? I gave a 45 minute talk about the research I was working on for the department. Does this count as an Oral Presentation even though not peer-reviewed? It was kind of a big deal to me...

Yes. An invitation to speak at Grand Rounds counts.

 

[atsai3]

What about presenting research findings at a department grand rounds? I gave a 45 minute talk about the research I was working on for the department. Does this count as an Oral Presentation even though not peer-reviewed? It was kind of a big deal to me...

See the FAQ (thread here). Grand Rounds presentations count.

-AT.

 

[gstrub]

What about a Ph.D. dissertation/defense?

Also, if I was an invited speaker in an event that gave an award to the best oral presentation, and won, can I list it under honors and also under oral presentations?