Does this count as volunteering?

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So I'm applying to an early admittance med school program and was wondering if this would count as volunteering or just experience?
-Volunteered my time for local church to start a basketball program. I was the team captain and sometimes coached. The main goal was to bring the youth of the community together and many would say we succeeded.
 
How would this not be community service?
 
How would this not be community service?
I dunno, I would think some people would look at it as just playing basketball for fun instead of volunteering weekends to practice and go over plays and games... I guess I overthinked it a little...
 
I dunno, I would think some people would look at it as just playing basketball for fun instead of volunteering weekends to practice and go over plays and games... I guess I overthinked it a little...

Your volunteering experiences SHOULD be fun and enjoyable, just like how you started this basketball program and coached.
 
I dunno, I would think some people would look at it as just playing basketball for fun instead of volunteering weekends to practice and go over plays and games... I guess I overthinked it a little...
I play board games for fun with kids in a pediatric hospital, yet it is still volunteering 😀
 
Were these your peers or were they kids younger than yourself? If you were the team captain, I have to figure these were your peers. I'd say this is not volunteering but is a hobby/advocation or athletics. Organizing a basketball team you play on is not volunteerism.
 
I think Lizzy has a good point. If these were kids and you were somewhat of a leader, this definitely sounds like volunteering. If they were friends of yours, much less so.
 
Were these your peers or were they kids younger than yourself? If you were the team captain, I have to figure these were your peers. I'd say this is not volunteering but is a hobby/advocation or athletics. Organizing a basketball team you play on is not volunteerism.

This rule here is a solid one to go by insofar as deciding into which category to place the activity.
 
This rule here is a solid one to go by insofar as deciding into which category to place the activity.

They were peers but we are members of the church and did it for a common goal which was to bring the youth community together. It also was the first league of its kind set up for this church and it helped bring many youth to the church. If I wanted to play basketball, I would've just went to the park but this was more than just playing basketball. How would you look at it if your were going over my application?
 
"Volunteering" = "Community Service"

If you are the one who benefited from the service, it doesn't really count does it?

I'm not saying its a bad thing to put on your app. You should definitely put it down actually. I would consider listing it as leadership or a hobby though.
 
"Volunteering" = "Community Service"

If you are the one who benefited from the service, it doesn't really count does it?

I'm not saying its a bad thing to put on your app. You should definitely put it down actually. I would consider listing it as leadership or a hobby though.

But wouldn't this technically be a service to the community? Bringing more youth by creating a basketball league?
 
They were peers but we are members of the church and did it for a common goal which was to bring the youth community together. It also was the first league of its kind set up for this church and it helped bring many youth to the church. If I wanted to play basketball, I would've just went to the park but this was more than just playing basketball. How would you look at it if your were going over my application?

List it as leadership or list it as hobby but do not list it as volunteering. Playing on a basketball team is not volunteering. if you were coaching sixth grade girls, that would be volunteering but not when it is your peer group.
 
List it as leadership or list it as hobby but do not list it as volunteering. Playing on a basketball team is not volunteering. if you were coaching sixth grade girls, that would be volunteering but not when it is your peer group.

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But wouldn't this technically be a service to the community? Bringing more youth by creating a basketball league?

So can I send myself and my girlfriend on vacation to Aruba and write on my app that I brought people together and helped relieve their stress?


That is obviously an extreme example but the point is that the reason they want doctors to do community service is to help out the less fortunate, meet people from populations far different from their own, provide mentoring where it is lacking, etc.

The fact that you got this basketball league going is pretty cool, but it is not volunteerism in the sense that is relevant.
 
So can I send myself and my girlfriend on vacation to Aruba and write on my app that I brought people together and helped relieve their stress?

I didn't do it because I wanted to play basketball? If i just wanted to do that I would've joined a more competitive league? Also, I didn't want to practice at 12am and wake up early next morning 4:30am for another practice? I think I volunteered my time but I'll probably put it down as hobby/leadership.
But these are two completely different situations were talking about bud.
 
I'm not trying to belittle your work - it shows initiative and leadership. It isn't community service.
 
List it as leadership or list it as hobby but do not list it as volunteering. Playing on a basketball team is not volunteering. if you were coaching sixth grade girls, that would be volunteering but not when it is your peer group.
I like to "undersell" and appreciate it in my peers too. List it under leadership or hobby and explain. It says a lot about who you are. 🙂
 
I didn't do it because I wanted to play basketball? If i just wanted to do that I would've joined a more competitive league? Also, I didn't want to practice at 12am and wake up early next morning 4:30am for another practice? I think I volunteered my time but I'll probably put it down as hobby/leadership.
But these are two completely different situations were talking about bud.
I think he was just using a very, very extreme example to show you that anything can be listed as "service" if you frame it in a certain way, so a line has to be drawn somewhere. Your situation is obviously much, much closer to this line than someone who goes on a vacation and proclaims that they "brought people together." I think what you did is wonderful, and it was probably a great asset to the community. However, great asset to the community does not equal community service. To give an example that is closer to your situation, the difference between service and leadership/extracurricular/hobby is the difference between making meals at a soup kitchen and starting an organization in which people (yourself included) get together over a meal (that you prepare) to discuss important worldly issues. While both of these are lovely things to do and both of them impact the community in a positive way, only the first is service. Merely giving of your time does not equal volunteer service. If you start or maintain an organization that allows you to participate in your hobbies, this is not volunteerism, no matter how good it was for the community.

Despite all of that, this sounds like a really great activity that you have invested a lot of your time into. You can certainly talk about the skills you gained and how hard you worked to make this basketball league happen. Stating that it is not volunteer service in no way diminishes what a good activity it is. Mark it down as a leadership opportunity/extracurricular and then let the adcoms know what a great activity it was.
 
I think he was just using a very, very extreme example to show you that anything can be listed as "service" if you frame it in a certain way, so a line has to be drawn somewhere. Your situation is obviously much, much closer to this line than someone who goes on a vacation and proclaims that they "brought people together." I think what you did is wonderful, and it was probably a great asset to the community. However, great asset to the community does not equal community service. To give an example that is closer to your situation, the difference between service and leadership/extracurricular/hobby is the difference between making meals at a soup kitchen and starting an organization in which people (yourself included) get together over a meal (that you prepare) to discuss important worldly issues. While both of these are lovely things to do and both of them impact the community in a positive way, only the first is service. Merely giving of your time does not equal volunteer service. If you start or maintain an organization that allows you to participate in your hobbies, this is not volunteerism, no matter how good it was for the community.

Despite all of that, this sounds like a really great activity that you have invested a lot of your time into. You can certainly talk about the skills you gained and how hard you worked to make this basketball league happen. Stating that it is not volunteer service in no way diminishes what a good activity it is. Mark it down as a leadership opportunity/extracurricular and then let the adcoms know what a great activity it was.

You have such a way with words lol. Thanks for the tips!
 
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