Does your school hold students back for perio?

[Lethstang]

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Hey guys,

We have a situation at the school I attend where people are getting held back if they dont find a patient who meets the criteria of the perio dept. You have a competency exam, an instrument exam, and a comprehensive exam. The problem that happens is that students arent finding patients that meet the proper criteria for a perio patient. Or, if they find a good one, the patients are ushered into grad perio and thus become ineligible. So, you can have a student who busts their hump to get patients in, has an excellent show rate due to proper pre screening, learns quickly, does everything correctly.....and they have to tell their frieneds and family theyve failed an entire year of school. Yes, they make you repeat. Or, in the case of d4's stay another semester until they find a proper patient.

There are no other departments at my school that consistently, and with a good amount of numbers, even come close to not passing someone due to not finding a patient with the correct criteria.

Is this normal?

Today I attended perio orientation. The director says he has no idea why people have such a hard time passing perio at our school and are held back. When someone mentioned its because of the lack of patients, he said he doesnt know anything about that and its the students responsibility.

Is this how it is where you guys go? Personally I think holding someone back and costing them upwards of 300k in addl student loans, lost income, and accrued interest is a bit steep for having bad luck.

 

[coolslugs]

Nope. My school doesn't have perio requirements. No number requirements period. I am assuming you go to an older/more traditional school. It is not right to make students find patients.

 

[Lethstang]

You guys don't get your own patients? How does that work? We get a call list. Then we screen them and make them an appointment and keep track of them etc.

 

[Twang77]

Hey guys,

We have a situation at the school I attend where people are getting held back if they dont find a patient who meets the criteria of the perio dept. You have a competency exam, an instrument exam, and a comprehensive exam. The problem that happens is that students arent finding patients that meet the proper criteria for a perio patient. Or, if they find a good one, the patients are ushered into grad perio and thus become ineligible. So, you can have a student who busts their hump to get patients in, has an excellent show rate due to proper pre screening, learns quickly, does everything correctly.....and they have to tell their frieneds and family theyve failed an entire year of school. Yes, they make you repeat. Or, in the case of d4's stay another semester until they find a proper patient.

There are no other departments at my school that consistently, and with a good amount of numbers, even come close to not passing someone due to not finding a patient with the correct criteria.

Is this normal?

Today I attended perio orientation. The director says he has no idea why people have such a hard time passing perio at our school and are held back. When someone mentioned its because of the lack of patients, he said he doesnt know anything about that and its the students responsibility.

Is this how it is where you guys go? Personally I think holding someone back and costing them upwards of 300k in addl student loans, lost income, and accrued interest is a bit steep for having bad luck.

Yea, that's ridiculous. If they tried to hold me back for perio I would sue them. The whole "find your own patients" thing is ridiculous.

 

[Timpson]

This type of stuff used to happen at my school all the time. Perio here can be an inflexible department. I suggest you guys unite as a class, get in touch with a lawyer and alumni and try to put some pressure on the administration. This is how my school somewhat changed it's program to start graduating students on time.

 

[phungy]

Hey guys,

We have a situation at the school I attend where people are getting held back if they dont find a patient who meets the criteria of the perio dept. You have a competency exam, an instrument exam, and a comprehensive exam. The problem that happens is that students arent finding patients that meet the proper criteria for a perio patient. Or, if they find a good one, the patients are ushered into grad perio and thus become ineligible. So, you can have a student who busts their hump to get patients in, has an excellent show rate due to proper pre screening, learns quickly, does everything correctly.....and they have to tell their frieneds and family theyve failed an entire year of school. Yes, they make you repeat. Or, in the case of d4's stay another semester until they find a proper patient.

There are no other departments at my school that consistently, and with a good amount of numbers, even come close to not passing someone due to not finding a patient with the correct criteria.

Is this normal?

Today I attended perio orientation. The director says he has no idea why people have such a hard time passing perio at our school and are held back. When someone mentioned its because of the lack of patients, he said he doesnt know anything about that and its the students responsibility.

Is this how it is where you guys go? Personally I think holding someone back and costing them upwards of 300k in addl student loans, lost income, and accrued interest is a bit steep for having bad luck.

You're referring to NYUCD aren't you?

 

[RU1992]

Would you mind mentioning which school this is?

 

[wigglytooth]

It's one thing if you are being held back because of your skills (in whatever department) and it's another thing for being held back because of the system. is there anyway you can appeal to a "higher power" to see if they can address not having patients for perio requirements?