Doing undergread in 2 years??

[MSKalltheway]

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mdapplicants.com is a good start. It will show you some of what you want to know, but is only limited to those at Rutgers who use the site...it wont be a complete data set. I doubt the complete info will be online as Universities dont publish this info. You're better off asking your pre-med department for this, they should be able to produce this info for the past couple of application cycles. But for online, that website is probably the best you can do.

Also, if anyone was to search for you, we would need to know which Rutgers school you will be attending, as there are many.

 

[Depakote]

can someone please post a list of where the Rutgers graduate went to med school over the past years or the schools matriculated from for top medical school such as Harvard, Yale and etc...

I'm pretty sure Rutgers is blacklisted by every top 20 medical school. Seriously, if you designate them you get an instant rejection the second your secondary check clears.

 

[Quix]

I'm pretty sure Rutgers is blacklisted by every top 20 medical school. Seriously, if you designate them you get an instant rejection the second your secondary check clears.

Cruel. Heartless. Funny. You get a cookie.

😀

 

[mfpullen]

can someone please post a list of where the Rutgers graduate went to med school over the past years or the schools matriculated from for top medical school such as Harvard, Yale and etc...

There's no such "list" because going to undergrad X doesn't guarantee that you'll get into ANY medical school, let alone a specific medical school.

Check MDApplicants.com, it might give you a rough idea, but the only people who post on their either lie or are gunners, so it won't give you a realistic sample.

 

[kirexhana]

A kid in my med school class did college in 2 years, so it is possible. Granted he also did high school in 2 years and matriculated as a 17 year old MS1. I think he's glad he did it, but I really really wouldn't rush anything. Enjoy college- it only happens once.

not to mention, this guy sounds nothing like our current 18 year old, who is waaaay more chill. this one just sounds scary and twitchy. and i hate to be a grammar ***** but.... damn, reading his posts is giving me arrhythmias

 

[kirexhana]

ok i don't want to rush things but if 2-3 years is doable i wish to do it I don't want to remain in school another year of my life i know 1-2 years don't make that much of a difference but it is for personal reasons furthermore im doing undergrad at Rutgers Newark Honors college I have taken 7 AP classes and received credit I think In Almost all. Furthermore I just wish to fill med school requirements and also study MCAT's on my spare time. Yes it does sound like a lot but im ambitious to succeed. So maybe 2 years is a little hard but what about 3 years how does that sound and do you think I have any chance at the top medical school like Harvard, Yale , UPenn and other top schools if i gety like 36+ on MCATs coming from Rutgers. I was also admitted to Brown University but decided to go to Rutgers for undergrad was that a good move. I believe that i can retian a 4.0 at Rutgers over Brown and do balance out with EC's and research.

So how does that sound is it possible????

hun, you DO understand that the journey to becoming a doctor = being in school for the rest of your life right? there is never an end to the learning. NEVER. plus tests, they just keep coming. good luck, but i hope you keep thinking about what you looking to embark on a little more carefully.

 

[da8s0859q]

I agree with everyone in this thread that's said that you need to slow down and smell the fu*king roses. I've always tried to live by that (with varying success); I'm currently bitching up a storm about taking physics I and II through the summer, leaving ~3 weeks of vacation on either side of both summer sessions.

But this whole rush thing for 3 or even 2 years... not my style.

However, it does seem that some people are genuinely happy with doing such, so hey, more power to 'em. I just think that these people are very much the minority, and that most people that are chronic overachievers like that don't end up quite as happy with their moves as they thought they would be.

My 22 year-old, MS0 $.02, worth the price you paid for it.

 

[SiR99]

I'm not sure if anyone actually answered your question b/c its too much to read, but NO IT IS NOT DOABLE

There is no way you can take all your required pre-req's get a high enough gpa and study for your MCAT and do enough EC's, volunteer work and research all in your first year, where then you would apply and start your interviews throughout your second year.


Its IMPOSSIBLE for a regular person. It might be possible for a high end genius, but then again someone like that would have graduated high school very early.

 

[phd89]

I'm pretty sure Rutgers is blacklisted by every top 20 medical school. Seriously, if you designate them you get an instant rejection the second your secondary check clears.

what do u mean Rutgers is blacklisted

I don't see much of Rutgers students getting accecpted to top med colleges does that mean Im not either

 

[maestro1625]

what do u mean Rutgers is blacklisted

🙂

 

[Auraraptor]

There are several reasons why this can't happen.

1) Pre-reqs can't be done realistically in such a short period of time. Too many labs.

2) You'd need to be interviewing in the 2nd year of your 2/3-year plan. Interviews chew up a lot of time and money. Cramming classes won't help.

3) I'm pretty sure any adcom would see this as inappropriate and borderline immature. Most people barely handle a full load (15 hours), what makes you think you can do much more?

4) Where would you have time to study for your MCAT?


There are plenty of things wrong with this idea. I'm sure that most people would agree that you need to take time to ENJOY college, not rush off to med school as soon as you can. There are reasons why the US system doesn't just pluck high school graduates, make them take pre-med courses, then they are off to med school, all in a time frame of 6-7 years.

One of my highschool friends graduated in two years with one minor. AP credits really help. He is now a MD/PhD at Rochester.

 

[instigata]

I did undergrad in 3 years with a good number of AP's, and no I didn't cram 21,213 classes into one quarter. The only thing that went slightly wrong was the fact that I had to take the August MCAT and submit my application late. Overall, it still turned out well 🙂

By the way, I went to 6 interviews and not even at one of them was it ever mentioned that I was 20 years old or that I was graduating in 3 years. Hope that helps.

 

[orrghead16]

can someone please post a list of where the Rutgers graduate went to med school over the past years or the schools matriculated from for top medical school such as Harvard, Yale and etc...

🙄 troll or still another "ambitious" HSchooler heading towards... Fool me once, woops. I will give you twice just to make you smile.

You really deserve to be nailed, troll or not.

 

[SketchLazy]

Actually Brown used to have the reputation of being one of the easier schools to do well at because of the ability to drop and retake any class you were doing poorly at, without repurcussion. (Not sure if this is still true or if it still has that rep). That's partly the reason so many Kennedy's and other US "royalty" have gone there. I suspect they will do more to make you "earn" your A's at Rutgers.

I wonder what would happen to schools' reputations and statistics if grade inflation was taken away.

 

[quintessence]

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[quintessence]

guys I understand your concern but im not naive or something look Im still a senior in High school probably going to graduate in a week or two and then im free for college . I just want input from some educated people like u folks. I know maintaining a 4.0 and a 36+ on the MCAT's is extremely tough nevertheless less I ask is it doable. And if so I know its hard so can You guys just give me some input as to what else I can do or should do

Sorry to be blunt, but it seems to me that you are just waiting for somebody to tell you that your crazy plan will work out. If you are honestly looking for an opinion than you should be open-minded about what everyone is telling you.

1. Your success and ambitions in high school are a good starting point, but in no way does that mean that you will be able to maintain a 4.0 and get a 36+ and do all of the EC's you mentioned. At this point, you have no idea how much more challenging undergrad is compared to highschool (and I did IB in high school...still no comparison). Most undergrads at top Universities come in with exceptional high school records. Wait until you sit through your first few science classes and see how it goes from there.

2. A 36+ on the mcat is the 97th percentile....high goal to set for urself if you are only studying "in your spare time"

3. Even if you manage to get a 4.0 and a 36+ and fit in research, your application will look very cookie cutter, because you aren't giving yourself time to explore anything else in University. You ARE only a high school senior, haven't taken most of the pre-req's....how do you know you are cut out for Medicine?

So yea, to echo what everyone else is saying, you aren't mature enough to rush through university into medicine, and you probably don't have the life experience. These 4 years are when most people grow up, and learn about the real world. You just can't skip over it, or put yourself into the "med-school" mold so early on.

Of course, you will probably ignore this and do as you wish, but 3 years from now when you are burnt out you will be wishing you had listened to us.....

 

[DropkickMurphy]

Sorry to be blunt, but it seems to me that you are just waiting for somebody to tell you that your crazy plan will work out. If you are honestly looking for an opinion than you should be open-minded about what everyone is telling you.

1. Your success and ambitions in high school are a good starting point, but in no way does that mean that you will be able to maintain a 4.0 and get a 36+ and do all of the EC's you mentioned. At this point, you have no idea how much more challenging undergrad is compared to highschool (and I did IB in high school...still no comparison). Most undergrads at top Universities come in with exceptional high school records. Wait until you sit through your first few science classes and see how it goes from there.

2. A 36+ on the mcat is the 97th percentile....high goal to set for urself if you are only studying "in your spare time"

3. Even if you manage to get a 4.0 and a 36+ and fit in research, your application will look very cookie cutter, because you aren't giving yourself time to explore anything else in University. You ARE only a high school senior, haven't taken most of the pre-req's....how do you know you are cut out for Medicine?

So yea, to echo what everyone else is saying, you aren't mature enough to rush through university into medicine, and you probably don't have the life experience. These 4 years are when most people grow up, and learn about the real world. You just can't skip over it, or put yourself into the "med-school" mold so early on.

Of course, you will probably ignore this and do as you wish, but 3 years from now when you are burnt out you will be wishing you had listened to us.....

I'm still trying to decide whether the OP is just your run of the mill overachieving high schooler who is about to have his head rudely ripped from the spot in his ass where he now has it lodged by his first taste of undergraduate education.....or.......he is truly as insipidly stupid as his posts make him seem......

 

[sle3pyguii]

the 4.0, 36+ is doable, but I've never heard of anyone doing it.

Your life will revolve around the library if you want to finish in 2. Why not have a life and just finish normally?
Loading up on classes each semester because you want to finish in 2 years may kill your GPA, especially freshman year. Do you really want to risk it?

 

[Law2Doc]

I'm still trying to decide whether the OP is just your run of the mill overachieving high schooler who is about to have his head rudely ripped from the spot in his ass where he now has it lodged by his first taste of undergraduate education.....or.......he is truly as insipidly stupid as his posts make him seem......

I gave him the benefit of the doubt initially but based on his last few posts, I've got some serious questions.

 

[MSKalltheway]

Listen OP everyone is tryin to tell you to start chillaxin' and not to underestimate the difficulty of undergrad. I know quite a few people from my undergrad who are at Ivy league med schools right now or are doing MD/PhDs. None of them had 4.0's and 36+...some had 4.0's, and others had 36+, but not both. Oh, and they ALL went for the 4 years. Especially if you only had 7APs, youll have to take a huge courseload to finish in 3, and as another poster said, youll risk being burned out. You DONT want to start medical school burnt out, because it makes undergrad look like a huge joke...med school will burn you out, my classmates couldnt go another few days after our last final if we had to. To each his own, you'll likely go against our advice, but I'm just letting you know, you're likely to be disappointed in the end.

 

[neom3x11]

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[maestro1625]

and it looks like the OP has been considering the overseas route to med school straight out of HS in pakistan... Considering something like that as a possibility is probably a good sign of not yet having the maturity for medicine.

 

[hotdog003]

ok i don't want to rush things but if 2-3 years is doable i wish to do it I don't want to remain in school another year of my life i know 1-2 years don't make that much of a difference but it is for personal reasons furthermore im doing undergrad at Rutgers Newark Honors college I have taken 7 AP classes and received credit I think In Almost all. Furthermore I just wish to fill med school requirements and also study MCAT's on my spare time. Yes it does sound like a lot but im ambitious to succeed. So maybe 2 years is a little hard but what about 3 years how does that sound and do you think I have any chance at the top medical school like Harvard, Yale , UPenn and other top schools if i gety like 36+ on MCATs coming from Rutgers. I was also admitted to Brown University but decided to go to Rutgers for undergrad was that a good move. I believe that i can retian a 4.0 at Rutgers over Brown and do balance out with EC's and research.

So how does that sound is it possible????

I know a real case. She got into a 7 year MD program (RPI albany?). which is really a 3+4 year program and it does not require MCAT as your are directly admitted in the 7 year program. She crammed and finished first 3 years worth of credits in 2 years. After finishing the program she completed residency at some good med school in CA. In effect she jumped 2 years ahead of her other classmates from her batch who follwed 4+4 model. I am sure she missed out on some typical college experience, but saved a lot of money for her middle class parents.

 

[hotdog003]

I'm usually not so blunt on this forum, but OP, I honestly think you are crazy. I haven't read through all the posts so I'm not sure if I'm repeating what was said before, I'm sure that I am. Regardless of this, I think you should take the advice of the other posters and be very careful about your ambitions. I think its great that you set your sights so high, but I don't think you REALLY realize what comes along with this. From a med student that has just finished MS1, this year was the hardest academically that I have ever faced, hands down. College was so easy compared to this, I'm mad I didnt come out with a 4.0 and a 36+ MCAT...those were the good ol' days, and MS1 is probably the easiest year!

The other posters are warning you about this because the amount of studying you have to do at this level is nothing to rush into. While all your friends are out earning money, partying every weekend, enjoying every nice day that comes by and taking trips everywhere, you need to be studying 8hrs a day or more, weekends included. Does that sound like something fun to see? I'm not regretting going to med school, I signed up for it and enjoy it, but I'm just giving you the real. I think you are making a big mistake by not heeding prior words here.

I dont think anyone in my class got in after only 3 years. I know one girl in the dental school who took only 3 years, but she REALLY had her **** together from day 1. Two years is pretty much impossible because then you'll end up taking the MCAT during your first year, and interviewing your second. Then you enter med school, if any adcom was crazy enough to accept a 20 yr old with no real life experience. The process for 3 years was previously explained. Honestly, med school is much more than what grades and scores you have, and theres more than Duke, UPenn and Harvard. Although they are amazing schools, you will still get all the opportunities you could want at other schools outside of the "Top 10" as well.

I couldnt imagine not taking 4 years to get through this process. Honestly, the best year of college for me was freshman year, having one whole year to get knocked around by rigorous courses and one summer to not worry about researching or clinics was so crucial in making the most of preparing me for med school admissions, and also just to have fun. Ambition is fine, but you have tunnel vision and its going to hurt you. I learned some valuable lessons that have helped me immensly for med school and in life in general that I would not have gotten if I didnt spend that time in college. Have you ever thought about how youll pay the bills? What about when something breaks down? Loan management? Time management? Will you know how to deal with landlords? What about when you have to deal with a significant other, will you know how to manage your studies and he/she? Time with your family? Friends? I could talk forever on what you need to figure out before med school, because honestly, life still happens while youre studying. College is for figuring all that out!

If you really want to rush through college, do so at your own risk. Even doing it in 3 years is rushing in my opinion. If i could do it all over again, I would probably get my MPH first, then go to med school. Rutgers will do you fine getting into any school, so long as you do well. I went to UMD-College Park and I'm glad I went there compared to the Ivy's I got into, profs gave less of a **** whether you failed or got an A, so it made me worked harder than I may have at other schools. Dont only focus on the top schools, the stats say even if you get a 4.0 and a 36+, youll likely be disappointed if you only focus on the top 10 med programs. They can fill classes with students that have those numbers if they wanted.

I have a question related to finances. How do you finance med school. Do you have to take huge amount of loans and pay them off in 10 years after finishing residency? Can you go to med school without any financial help from family? to keep debt low, is it advisable to go instate school as opposed to private schools?

 

[pillowhead]

As someone who has sat on a med admission committee, I can tell you right now that anyone who graduated from undergrad in less than three years would probably have their applications tossed out immediately. It screams immaturity and/or parents' expectations are the primary reason for applying to medical school. It also implies an absolute lack of understanding about what medicine and medical education are about. If you can't stand school, you do realize that medical is at least four years with no way of shortening it? Some people require more than that for academic problems. Others do additional degrees or research. Then there's residency during which your program will continue to expect you to read regularly and diligently and take annual (or more frequent exams). As a physician, you will have Continuing Medical Education requirements and periodic examinations. You will be constantly be learning. Undergraduate is the time to begin this lifelong process. You need to learn orgo, physics, history, etc, but more importantly, you need to learn HOW to learn. So take a chill pill and relax. Take some english and history classes. Besides "looking good" on your application, you genuinely need to be good, well read, well rounded human being to be a good physician.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

As someone who has sat on a med admission committee, I can tell you right now that anyone who graduated from undergrad in less than three years would probably have their applications tossed out immediately. It screams immaturity and/or parents' expectations are the primary reason for applying to medical school. It also implies an absolute lack of understanding about what medicine and medical education are about. If you can't stand school, you do realize that medical is at least four years with no way of shortening it? Some people require more than that for academic problems. Others do additional degrees or research. Then there's residency during which your program will continue to expect you to read regularly and diligently and take annual (or more frequent exams). As a physician, you will have Continuing Medical Education requirements and periodic examinations. You will be constantly be learning. Undergraduate is the time to begin this lifelong process. You need to learn orgo, physics, history, etc, but more importantly, you need to learn HOW to learn. So take a chill pill and relax. Take some english and history classes. Besides "looking good" on your application, you genuinely need to be good, well read, well rounded human being to be a good physician.

OK, that is officially the best post I have ever seen on SDN, with the possible exception of Panda Bear's dead African babies personal statement.

 

[searun]

As someone who has sat on a med admission committee, I can tell you right now that anyone who graduated from undergrad in less than three years would probably have their applications tossed out immediately. It screams immaturity and/or parents' expectations are the primary reason for applying to medical school. It also implies an absolute lack of understanding about what medicine and medical education are about. If you can't stand school, you do realize that medical is at least four years with no way of shortening it? Some people require more than that for academic problems. Others do additional degrees or research. Then there's residency during which your program will continue to expect you to read regularly and diligently and take annual (or more frequent exams). As a physician, you will have Continuing Medical Education requirements and periodic examinations. You will be constantly be learning. Undergraduate is the time to begin this lifelong process. You need to learn orgo, physics, history, etc, but more importantly, you need to learn HOW to learn. So take a chill pill and relax. Take some english and history classes. Besides "looking good" on your application, you genuinely need to be good, well read, well rounded human being to be a good physician.

Yes, bravo, finally someone making sense.

 

[deleted77919]

I have a question related to finances. How do you finance med school. Do you have to take huge amount of loans and pay them off in 10 years after finishing residency? Can you go to med school without any financial help from family? to keep debt low, is it advisable to go instate school as opposed to private schools?

Yes (many take much longer than 10 years), yes, maybe (very student/school dependent), respectively.

 

[gmsquid]

Graduated in 3 years with two degrees, applied after my 2nd year with my stats from a State University. Look at my MD apps profile, and you decide...one acceptance, three waitlists, eight rejections...

 

[Law2Doc]

Graduated in 3 years with two degrees, applied after my 2nd year with my stats from a State University. Look at my MD apps profile, and you decide...one acceptance, three waitlists, eight rejections...

While I agree with your point, it's hard to draw an inference without knowing how well you interview. (You also might have been a bit light on clinical experience.) But to the extent you are saying that rushing through is not going to be helpful for getting the top places I tend to agree.

 

[OwnageMobile]

Yeah, I only read about a third of the posts on this thread but will throw in my $0.02, regardless, as always with "these threads"

ENJOY COLLEGE. IT MAY BE THE MOST FUN YOU WILL HAVE IN YOUR LIFE.

Those years are priceless. Figure yourself out, become well-rounded. And yes, "get laid." Gather experience. I agree with working hard, but not at the expense of time spent as a college student.

 

[Addb]

Edit: GAH! Sorry about the revival guys! I found this thread from a link and forgot to check the date! You may commence flaming 😉

If by some off chance you have a hobby... use your college time to expand it. My college Marching Band, my political club (founding president), and even my gaming group (which has done wonders for my social skills) have all pretty much redefined me as a person.

They also make for a helluva AMCAS EC section.

Nobody is going to care but yourself if you graduate early. Nobody is really going to care if graduate late either. Statistics say you will either change your mind about medicine - or get weeded out.

I see a lot of myself in you three years ago. I had my classes planned out down to the end - including an MCAT study schedule a week into my first semster.

I have since lost and forgotten that little document, and guess what? I'm still competitive, and I'm still going to be a doctor in five years, give or take 😀

 

[Decicco]

I finished all my prereqs in two years. Then, I took my MCAT the next summer. You will run into two problems (none impossible) if you want to go to med school after that:
*You need 90hrs (but not a degree) to apply to most med schools
*You need to have a high GPA/MCAT to make up for your lack of a degree

Its more common to see people go after three years (often without an undergrad degree). However, i know of a few cases of two years.

 

[Law2Doc]

There is no real good reason to rush and, as suggested in this thread, many reasons not to.

 

[mvenus929]

ok i don't want to rush things but if 2-3 years is doable i wish to do it I don't want to remain in school another year of my life i know 1-2 years don't make that much of a difference but it is for personal reasons furthermore im doing undergrad at Rutgers Newark Honors college I have taken 7 AP classes and received credit I think In Almost all. Furthermore I just wish to fill med school requirements and also study MCAT's on my spare time. Yes it does sound like a lot but im ambitious to succeed. So maybe 2 years is a little hard but what about 3 years how does that sound and do you think I have any chance at the top medical school like Harvard, Yale , UPenn and other top schools if i gety like 36+ on MCATs coming from Rutgers. I was also admitted to Brown University but decided to go to Rutgers for undergrad was that a good move. I believe that i can retian a 4.0 at Rutgers over Brown and do balance out with EC's and research.

So how does that sound is it possible????

Don't do 2 years. I'm doing mine in 3 (and a pretty easy three, since I could do it easily in 2 1/2), and as I've been looking at school websites, a LOT of them require a minimum of three years in college, in addition to the usual course requirements.

Also be aware that you pretty much have to have an interest in research if you want to go to a top school, especially ones like Yale and Duke. It's not absolutely necessary, but still....

I did undergrad in 3 years with a good number of AP's, and no I didn't cram 21,213 classes into one quarter. The only thing that went slightly wrong was the fact that I had to take the August MCAT and submit my application late. Overall, it still turned out well 🙂

By the way, I went to 6 interviews and not even at one of them was it ever mentioned that I was 20 years old or that I was graduating in 3 years. Hope that helps.

You are officially my role model 🙂

 

[searun]

Hi I'm new here so i don't really know if this is the right place to post this.

I wanted to know if it was possible of doing undergrad in 2 years then applying to a medical school. Exactly how hard would that be im willing to work extremely tough

Also what about 3 years is that possible of doing 3 years undergrad and then applying to medical school.

Well, I know that Admission Committees are usually pretty impressed with the maturity level and life experiences of teenagers, so good luck with this. It sounds like a good plan.

 

[blues91776]

Undergrad in 2 years? Sure, very impressive. But the guys and gals who really impress me are the ones that do 4 years of med school and three years of residency in 2 years. Those folks are the real superstars, the real role models for the rest of us.

ditto

 

[trevagandalf]

Lol... OK, so I did undergrad in two years and got into medical this year. Though I had about 59 credits of transferred AP coming in and took the proficiency test for Physics I and II (So, I got through taking 15- 18 credits a semester). It's possible, but there is a lot of sacrifice involved....

1st, you have to plan out your 2 years very very very well, to the letter, which classes you're going to take and most probably won't have time for so many electives. Also, plan your ONLY summer very well and make sure you get into a clinical or research program.

2nd. Getting LOR will be a pain the ass because it's almost impossible to know your professors well. Your LOR will be bad and quite shallow.

3rd. You're going to be in a class with students much older than you who already have study partners and live on different appartments then you. I basically had pretty much a split academic group from my social group, and sometimes, that sucks. For example, everyone of your friends going out after the Inorganic chem test and you having to stay home and study for that organic chem test...

4th. If you plan to get into a sorority, make sure they don't know you're graduating in 2 years. 😛 At least, it worked for me!

5th. Everyone is going to tell you it's crazy and impossible. But it's possible, you're just gonna have a lot of self-doubt sometimes. I think that the self-doubt about really wanting to be a doctor, of sacrificing 2 years of college, of being mature enough for med school is definetly the worse part.

6th. Your GPA is going to suffer because you cannot spread a B over 4 years of classes and have to spread a B over 2 years. And sometimes you must take a class that you know you're not going to do well in just to graduate on time and if you APed out of those freshman gimme classes, you don't have anything to pad your GPA

7. Graduating in two years means you have to take your MCAT basically by the end of your freshman year. I was interning at a surgery program for 12 hours a day and studying for the MCATs at the same time. (that also means that you gotta take o chem, physic, inorgo chem and bio by then)

8. You really don't have much time to really really dedicate in an extracurricular activity (longest would be 2 years) and that's not going to look good in your application. And getting research position is SO much harder if you're a freshman!

9. Your pre-med advisor will do anything to convince you not to apply to med school and will tell you that you won't get in. And if he is really an ass, will turn in your rec letter later than the deadline 🙁

10. Most schools don't like applicants that are young, they naturally assume you're not mature enough. You are taking a risk by graduating in two years, some schools like Harvard and Johns Hopkins require you to STAY in an undergrad instution for at least 3 or 4 years.

11. Some schools will be more accepting, but it's just the luck of the draw if you get those.

12. Apply to lots and lots of schools. Your second year will involve lots of flying for interviews and you're friends are still going to be laughing at your face.

13. If you fail, you'll feel like crap and will doubt yourself the first application cycle. In addition, everyone else will think you're too dramatic because you're young and have second chances. But you'll still be depressed as hell.

14. When you're a freshman, think like a sophmore. When you are a sophmore, think like a senior!

15. You might have to take a lot of science classes at once to fulfill your major. My second semester sophomore/senior year, I had to take 6 upper level bio/biochem classes! And it is possible to get an A in every single one of them and still have a life!

16. You have to work hard, but college is ok to handle. I still had time to party every weekend, go to formals, eat and club with my friends, go to plays, movies, museums, be involved in a sorority and student government. Have fun, date, go to the beach, work part-time jobs, blow all my money on starbucks, etc.

17. Worse of all is that during these 2 years and for years after you'll always wonder if you made the right decision. They say that college is the best time of your life, and it's probably true. By graduating early, you're cutting your time of carelessness and freedom short. I've always wanted to study abroad or take a Art History class but due to graduating early, I couldn't do any of these. You just gotta live with this doubt.

If you have any questions, PM me! I applied to about 12 schools (should have applied to more), didn't get in but got waitisted, and now got off the waitlist for two very good schools... It can be done.. it's just hard...

 

[MattEvers]

Is it a requirement to finish all prereqs before you apply?

Do med schools usually give you an acceptance assuming you will do well in upper level classes?

It seems you would have to apply when you only have grades from lower-level classes. How would schools know you can handle the material in med school?

The same goes for 3rd year juniors who apply before taking ochem, etc., assuming they wait until their last year..

It this normal to not have all material completed that is required for med school? What if you fail one of those classes? They revoke your acceptance?

 

[J1515]

do you think I have any chance at the top medical school like Harvard, Yale , UPenn and other top schools if i gety like 36+ on MCATs coming from Rutgers. I was also admitted to Brown University but decided to go to Rutgers for undergrad was that a good move. I believe that i can retian a 4.0 at Rutgers over Brown and do balance out with EC's and research.

I hope you already have a specialty picked out, and also know where you're going to do your residency, and also where you are going to practice after. Clearly any high schooler headed into undergrad without knowing these things is setting himself up for failure.

 

[badasshairday]

Lol... OK, so I did undergrad in two years and got into medical this year. Though I had about 59 credits of transferred AP coming in and took the proficiency test for Physics I and II (So, I got through taking 15- 18 credits a semester). It's possible, but there is a lot of sacrifice involved....

1st, you have to plan out your 2 years very very very well, to the letter, which classes you're going to take and most probably won't have time for so many electives. Also, plan your ONLY summer very well and make sure you get into a clinical or research program.

2nd. Getting LOR will be a pain the ass because it's almost impossible to know your professors well. Your LOR will be bad and quite shallow.

3rd. You're going to be in a class with students much older than you who already have study partners and live on different appartments then you. I basically had pretty much a split academic group from my social group, and sometimes, that sucks. For example, everyone of your friends going out after the Inorganic chem test and you having to stay home and study for that organic chem test...

4th. If you plan to get into a sorority, make sure they don't know you're graduating in 2 years. 😛 At least, it worked for me!

5th. Everyone is going to tell you it's crazy and impossible. But it's possible, you're just gonna have a lot of self-doubt sometimes. I think that the self-doubt about really wanting to be a doctor, of sacrificing 2 years of college, of being mature enough for med school is definetly the worse part.

6th. Your GPA is going to suffer because you cannot spread a B over 4 years of classes and have to spread a B over 2 years. And sometimes you must take a class that you know you're not going to do well in just to graduate on time and if you APed out of those freshman gimme classes, you don't have anything to pad your GPA

7. Graduating in two years means you have to take your MCAT basically by the end of your freshman year. I was interning at a surgery program for 12 hours a day and studying for the MCATs at the same time. (that also means that you gotta take o chem, physic, inorgo chem and bio by then)

8. You really don't have much time to really really dedicate in an extracurricular activity (longest would be 2 years) and that's not going to look good in your application. And getting research position is SO much harder if you're a freshman!

9. Your pre-med advisor will do anything to convince you not to apply to med school and will tell you that you won't get in. And if he is really an ass, will turn in your rec letter later than the deadline 🙁

10. Most schools don't like applicants that are young, they naturally assume you're not mature enough. You are taking a risk by graduating in two years, some schools like Harvard and Johns Hopkins require you to STAY in an undergrad instution for at least 3 or 4 years.

11. Some schools will be more accepting, but it's just the luck of the draw if you get those.

12. Apply to lots and lots of schools. Your second year will involve lots of flying for interviews and you're friends are still going to be laughing at your face.

13. If you fail, you'll feel like crap and will doubt yourself the first application cycle. In addition, everyone else will think you're too dramatic because you're young and have second chances. But you'll still be depressed as hell.

14. When you're a freshman, think like a sophmore. When you are a sophmore, think like a senior!

15. You might have to take a lot of science classes at once to fulfill your major. My second semester sophomore/senior year, I had to take 6 upper level bio/biochem classes! And it is possible to get an A in every single one of them and still have a life!

16. You have to work hard, but college is ok to handle. I still had time to party every weekend, go to formals, eat and club with my friends, go to plays, movies, museums, be involved in a sorority and student government. Have fun, date, go to the beach, work part-time jobs, blow all my money on starbucks, etc.

17. Worse of all is that during these 2 years and for years after you'll always wonder if you made the right decision. They say that college is the best time of your life, and it's probably true. By graduating early, you're cutting your time of carelessness and freedom short. I've always wanted to study abroad or take a Art History class but due to graduating early, I couldn't do any of these. You just gotta live with this doubt.

If you have any questions, PM me! I applied to about 12 schools (should have applied to more), didn't get in but got waitisted, and now got off the waitlist for two very good schools... It can be done.. it's just hard...

Wow that is very crazy! If I was an adcom my first question would be whether you did this for yourself or to please your parents.

 

[TheRealMD]

Wow that is very crazy! If I was an adcom my first question would be whether you did this for yourself or to please your parents.

Yeah, at that point you wouldn't really question dedication but understanding. I'm pretty much in the same boat.

 

[trevagandalf]

Lol.. my parents wanted me to graduate in 4 years. They kept telling me not to do it. It is true that my parents wanted me to be a doctor, but at some point in my life, I struggled with the ideia and arrived at the conclusion that I would like to be associated with this profession. Sacrificing 2 years of undergrad was a pure decision that I made. As much as I enjoy sorority life, carelessness, parties, the sense of freedom and the extreme amount of free time I had in college, I feel ready to move on to something more stable and meaningful.

 

[SIREN]

Lol... OK, so I did undergrad in two years and got into medical this year. Though I had about 59 credits of transferred AP coming in and took the proficiency test for Physics I and II (So, I got through taking 15- 18 credits a semester). It's possible, but there is a lot of sacrifice involved....

Wow... 59 AP credits plus credit in Physics I & II, that's very impressive, so technically, you started school as a Junior. I'm jealous, lol. 🙂

 

[ryandote]

If you KNOW what you want to do, don't look back!

That said, I think it is hard to KNOW what you want to do at this point in your life. Life is a journey, not a destination.

 

[Law2Doc]

As much as I enjoy sorority life, carelessness, parties, the sense of freedom and the extreme amount of free time I had in college, I feel ready to move on to something more stable and meaningful.

You are going to be kicking yourself in a few months. I doubt you will find the first year of med school more stable or meaningful. Just a lot harder. (You will adapt and handle it, I'm sure.) But it isn't the xanadu you are making it out to be.

 

[Law2Doc]

If you KNOW what you want to do, don't look back!

That said, I think it is hard to KNOW what you want to do at this point in your life. Life is a journey, not a destination.

ALWAYS LOOK IN EVERY DIRECTION (including back) before you cross this street. Life may be a journey, but medicine is somewhat of a destination. Medicine is unique in that the amount of time and debt involved pretty much locks you into the path once you start (golden handcuffs). You really benefit yourself if you make a long, well thought out, non-rushed decision after considering lots of options throughout college. You will find that what you want out of life may be very different even after just a few years. There is a reason the US rejected the straight to med school in lieu of college mode that some countries use, and that many of the accellerated programs are being phased out. There is good value to really thinking things through before getting on this road because it is one of the harder ones to get back off.

 

[JRockdown]

16. You have to work hard, but college is ok to handle. I still had time to party every weekend, go to formals, eat and club with my friends, go to plays, movies, museums, be involved in a sorority and student government. Have fun, date, go to the beach, work part-time jobs, blow all my money on starbucks, etc.

If you have a numbered bullet point for your social life.....it really isn't a social life. To boot it is number 16 out of, oh 17. What is bullet point 17, thats right questioning how valid and worthwhile your decision in bullet point 16 is, yikes.

Live it up for a while....

 

[Gut Shot]

can someone please post a list of where the Rutgers graduate went to med school over the past years or the schools matriculated from for top medical school such as Harvard, Yale and etc...

I'm a 33 year old MD, PhD in residency (about to start PGY-3). Don't be in such a hurry. I'd give most of my non-essential flesh to be back in college. Sure, I worked hard, but I also build lifelong friendships, partied my ass off, and got laid about 700 times. I remember the good times, the freedom, the craziness far more than the stressful periods. I cherish those years, they are a part of me that I would never trade.

So you'll have to forgive me if I want to reach through this screen and throttle you. Newsflash: getting into Yale med when you're 20 won't make you happy or even successful. If you exist only to chase highly unrealistic goals you should be prepared for a long and dismal life.

 

[sprinkibrio]

wtf

at least make it three years ok? go to some college that you don't want to leave. if anyone wants to graduate in 2 or 3 years it's because they chose the wrong college for them. that just makes me feel bad... everyone needs the college experience (and I don't mean parties/sororities). everyone needs to start having adult relationships and making adult decisions in a bit of a more sheltered environment or you get slammed later on and won't know how to handle it or set up your life.