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[RICEman]

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"Yea Im sure you got the same test. Even orgo was ridiculous right?? I mean come there is no reason to be that crazy! like all orgo 2 crazy rxns! reagents I never heard of??? did you get the afferent artery of the kidney quest?
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I had this version of test. That was a very HARD test. Look guys, if anybody took that test and still got 20+ in all, then you are brilliant in general biology/chem/o-chem; Else, you studied very very hard. I could have done better - but I'm a working dad/husband.

I've taken 5+ upper division biology courses, and that test version had questions that seemed made to test the genius & brilliant pre-dents.

If I had to take that same version again:
I would have to memorize my DAT materials and incorporate more study guides because I don't know how else to tackle that version.

I had the kidney question answered right because my job involves thorough understanding of that system.

But there's no point of arguing here. Just info.......

DISCLAIMER: It's just my opinion. It is possible that they have 5 to 500000 version of tests. Who knows?

God Bless

 

[crrees]

wasnt a thread like this closed within the past 24 hours?

Regardless, im sorry you had a hard test. But for some reason I think the test versions are made to test people who have a wide range of knowledge. My test had questions I had to ELIMINATE answers to get the right one. I think this is what the ADA is trying to do. Having the ability to reason things out is imperative as a dental professional.

 

[tinman831]

That last thread was closed because 1) the OP was trolling 2) comments were wayyyyy off track 3) there was discussion of actual DAT questions on the exam. Please remember that talking about specific exam questions is not allowed.

Having said that, I always thought that the DAT was just composed of random questions that were pulled from a question bank?

 

[crrees]

Ah appreciate the clarification I didnt read much of the last one seemed alittle to vigilant

I used to think it was a random test bank, but why do that when you can tweak tests to a certain difficulty? I figured the first couple of questions are easy, the next are harder, then the last ones are the hardest, or some randomness to that.

 

[RICEman]

That last thread was closed because 1) the OP was trolling 2) comments were wayyyyy off track 3) there was discussion of actual DAT questions on the exam. Please remember that talking about specific exam questions is not allowed.

Having said that, I always thought that the DAT was just composed of random questions that were pulled from a question bank?

I think that these tests are "pre-packaged" or whatever you call it. There a was figure in my test that was never discussed here before. It was so easy, that even a grade schooler could have guessed it right. Any business major could have answered it right. There are very ******ed questions then there are insanely HARD ones. I think mine was heavily loaded with very hard questions.

So, do you guys think that some tests are REALLY harder than some if not all?

If so, should ADCOM's know what versions of tests we took and do some kind of "curving." ? Impossible. So here is what I think:

(1.) I wasn't prepared and ready. 🙄
(2.) ADA is not careful in giving test versions that are fair to all. (similar depth and "hardness")
(3.) ADA do not purposely give unfair tests/versions. (Just one of those random things).
(4.) It's all in my head.
(5.) There was a computer glitch?

Anyway, don't make a big deal out of this.

 

[Streetwolf]

I think the tests are supposed to have a few common questions in order to establish an appropriate grading scale. If you got all those questions right and a lot of the other questions wrong, it would be obvious that the other questions are just really hard. Then you should be able to get more wrong and still have a decent scaled score. If you got the common questions wrong then it's obvious you aren't on the same level as some other test takers.

 

[phraud]

wasnt a thread like this closed within the past 24 hours?

Regardless, im sorry you had a hard test. But for some reason I think the test versions are made to test people who have a wide range of knowledge. My test had questions I had to ELIMINATE answers to get the right one. I think this is what the ADA is trying to do. Having the ability to reason things out is imperative as a dental professional.

I agree, a lot of the Bio questions I got were about things I never learned, but the concept behind them was something I was familiar with. I got questions about chicken teeth and sea urchin fertilization. Personally, my professors never emphasized the importance of these animals in any of my classes. But when it all came down to it, I was able to eliminate answer choices by rationalizing and knowing pretty basic biology concepts.

 

[tinman831]

😕😕😕😕

Chickens have teeth?

 

[poc91nc]

I think that these tests are "pre-packaged" or whatever you call it. There a was figure in my test that was never discussed here before. It was so easy, that even a grade schooler could have guessed it right. Any business major could have answered it right. There are very ******ed questions then there are insanely HARD ones. I think mine was heavily loaded with very hard questions.

So, do you guys think that some tests are REALLY harder than some if not all?

If so, should ADCOM's know what versions of tests we took and do some kind of "curving." ? Impossible. So here is what I think:

(1.) I wasn't prepared and ready. 🙄
(2.) ADA is not careful in giving test versions that are fair to all. (similar depth and "hardness")
(3.) ADA do not purposely give unfair tests/versions. (Just one of those random things).
(4.) It's all in my head.
(5.) There was a computer glitch?

Anyway, don't make a big deal out of this.

I think having one insanely difficult version would defeat the purpose of a standardized test...don't you think? If you look at the percentiles from various versions, you'll see that the differential from version to version isn't that crazy...usually within one to two percentile at the most. Not the type of differential you would expect with a "crazy" version. Of course, being that difficulty is relative, there may be certain versions that are harder, on an individual basis, but I would think that such matters would smooth out on their own and if they didn't, they would be evident in the percentiles.

Of course, I could just be wrong....

 

[RICEman]

I agree, a lot of the Bio questions I got were about things I never learned, but the concept behind them was something I was familiar with. I got questions about chicken teeth and sea urchin fertilization. Personally, my professors never emphasized the importance of these animals in any of my classes. But when it all came down to it, I was able to eliminate answer choices by rationalizing and knowing pretty basic biology concepts.

These chicken teeth and sea urchin questions are probably among the oldest pointers ever heard of on this board. I studied/memorized this stuff like crazy a year ago. Didn't see it on my test......not even the FRAP/ethics and all that stuff you see on here.👎

Bye. See u later alligators

 

[Nirvrex]

I am pretty sure I had this test. Unless the afferent question is on multiple exams. It was hard but I dont think it was all that impossible. I studied my bum off and got 20 bio, 20 gchem, 22 ochem. I think the hardest part about this test was that the bio was extremely varried, and many of the questions were asked in awkward ways, such as the thermodynamics question.