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[Xarelto-10]

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Was wondering how one approaches writing a resume for a DOP position without an experience. Or I guess entry level.
I have been practicing for >4 years and I have considered moving into that role lately. Now that there is an opportunity at a rather small hospital of about 60 beds I started putting together the application. However,
I couldn’t be sure how to go about reformatting my resume given the lack of formal administrative role in the past. How would you approach it? How would one without past formal administrative/leadership role approaches writing their resume/CV?
I’d appreciate any and all inputs.
Thank you !

 

[rxkrafted]

I honestly don't see how you could convince them to hire you as director without any past administrative or leadership role experience. You can't just manipulate your resume/CV unless you just straight up lie. They'll find out once you get interviewed or hired and realize you have no idea what you're doing lol. Where have you been practicing for >4 years though?

 

[Lnsean]

Was wondering how one approaches writing a resume for a DOP position without an experience. Or I guess entry level.
I have been practicing for >4 years and I have considered moving into that role lately. Now that there is an opportunity at a rather small hospital of about 60 beds I started putting together the application. However,
I couldn’t be sure how to go about reformatting my resume given the lack of formal administrative role in the past. How would you approach it? How would one without past formal administrative/leadership role approaches writing their resume/CV?
I’d appreciate any and all inputs.
Thank you !

worth a shot but it will most likely be in the trash pile.

 

[Xarelto-10]

I honestly don't see how you could convince them to hire you as director without any past administrative or leadership role experience. You can't just manipulate your resume/CV unless you just straight up lie. They'll find out once you get interviewed or hired and realize you have no idea what you're doing lol. Where have you been practicing for >4 years though?

I do not intend to lie or mislead them. But provided it is a small hospital I was hoping they might consider me.

 

[mentos]

They will most likely hire an internal. There's usually a "second in command" staff Rph who they have in mind the entire time.

 

[TheBlaah]

I agree with the other posts; it's very unlikely they'll hire an outside DOP without experience.

 

[lord999]

I disagree, everyone gets their start somewhere. You better play up your leadership and fiscal management qualities to stand a chance.

 

[rxkrafted]

I disagree, everyone gets their start somewhere. You better play up your leadership and fiscal management qualities to stand a chance.

I feel like it would be more of an appropriate transition if you were a staff at the facility you planned on becoming a director for (esp if you have no previous administrative/leadership experience) because at least you have an idea of the functions and responsibilities. I'm not sure how it works with small hospitals with 60 beds in terms of training but if you were applying for a hospital for a bigger company, at least they would have you train with directors at other hospitals before transitioning you. They most likely expect you to know what you should do if you land this job. If you're comfortable being in that situation, then go for it. List every possible responsibility related to what you normally do at work which would boost your leadership qualities. Good luck my man.

 

[M0df]

Not enough info to give add feedback besides to what Lord999 already said.

It comes down to location and applicant pool. And often times applicant pool is a reflection of location. You could be top 5 candidate and in position to get an interview. It is unlikely though. You could also be outside of top 50 for all we know.

 

[WorthlessOxygen]

Anecdotal but for everyone saying OP doesn't have a chance, we just had a floating pharmacist quit to start as a DOP of a small hospital. 2018 grad so APPE, and no management experience.

 

[lord999]

I feel like it would be more of an appropriate transition if you were a staff at the facility you planned on becoming a director for (esp if you have no previous administrative/leadership experience) because at least you have an idea of the functions and responsibilities. I'm not sure how it works with small hospitals with 60 beds in terms of training but if you were applying for a hospital for a bigger company, at least they would have you train with directors at other hospitals before transitioning you. They most likely expect you to know what you should do if you land this job. If you're comfortable being in that situation, then go for it. List every possible responsibility related to what you normally do at work which would boost your leadership qualities. Good luck my man.

I disagree with that too. You're thinking logically, not managerial.

Look, some will say that you have to do the responsible thing and Horatio Alger growth and all that.

What actually happens is the best qualified takes the job. That can be the one who does all the diligent things, but it also can be the person who puts in the application if they are the only one and they are not insane.

Most managers get their start in the same way informatics gets its start, by opportunity and by audacity. I agree with the narcissistic position that if I say that I'm qualified for the position, it is up to HR to prove to me otherwise. Sometimes the proof is in the CV, oftentimes not. But for whatever they need, you can bet that you can change their mind.

That's managerial thinking, and someone with that quality gets hired eventually because someone has to do the political work.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Agree with @lord999 - play up your managerial, leadership, and fiscal wins as a clinician. Hiring managers won't care about your research or presentations, they want to know what you've done to increase patient care and satisfaction, while decreasing costs.

A 60 bed hospital sounds like a career starter. For all you know, maybe no one at the hospital wants to DOP position.

 

[Sparda29]

Agree with @lord999 - play up your managerial, leadership, and fiscal wins as a clinician. Hiring managers won't care about your research or presentations, they want to know what you've done to increase patient care and satisfaction, while decreasing costs.

A 60 bed hospital sounds like a career starter. For all you know, maybe no one at the hospital wants to DOP position.

Probably has a terrible budget for staffing.

 

[Xarelto-10]

It is actually a working DOP/RPH with some relief RPH coverage by another pharmacist.
I am not sure if that means easy or more difficult as one has to split responsibility between staffing and administration.
Compensation isn’t really that attractive either. But I was hoping that it might offer an exposure for an eventual real gig.

 

[lord999]

It is actually a working DOP/RPH with some relief RPH coverage by another pharmacist.
I am not sure if that means easy or more difficult as one has to split responsibility between staffing and administration.
Compensation isn’t really that attractive either. But I was hoping that it might offer an exposure for an eventual real gig.

You have to start somewhere. Make this into a starter job. It'll give you supervision, financial management, personnel management, policy review and writing, etc. at someone else's expense. That's not uncommon for small hospitals, and many a senior director started from there.

 

[spacecowgirl]

A split position will certainly make you more marketable as you'll gain/increase the "clinical" skills that people in upper upper management seem to get too separated from.

 

[BidingMyTime]

It is actually a working DOP/RPH with some relief RPH coverage by another pharmacist.
I am not sure if that means easy or more difficult as one has to split responsibility between staffing and administration.
Compensation isn’t really that attractive either. But I was hoping that it might offer an exposure for an eventual real gig.

That means it will be more hard, as you'll be doing 2 jobs, and getting 1 salary. Think of it as a paid internship, you will be learning how to be a DOP. Is there only 1 other staff pharmacist there? How is the technician coverage? You will definitely want to become best friends with the technicians, so they can give you are the background and gossip that you will need to successfully do the politics of the job. Probably you should buy them lunch every friday or something.