DOs & Research

[Nimzy328]

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Hi i was just wondering if DO schools (CCOM more specifically) place a major emphasis on research during undergrad? I have been trying to apply to potential research sites-but im a non science major and it kinda puts me in the back of the line 🙁 since they mostly look for those with a science background...

But if anyone knows any sites I could use to find potential research sites (chicagoland area) I would really appreciate it!

Thanks!🙂

 

[Semicolon]

As far as I've heard, DO schools place considerably less significance on research exposure than MD schools do, but then again, it obviously doesn't hurt. 😉

 

[Chocolate Bear]

As far as I've heard, DO schools place considerably less significance on research exposure than MD schools do, but then again, it obviously doesn't hurt. 😉

True, but I'd place CCOM in the top 10-20% of DO schools for research. They do it and they like to see it on apps. Look up their history and check out the book by Gevitz in my signature. They broke the ground on OMM research and continue with it today.

So, OP, you would definitely benefit from gaining some research exposure. I just don't know of any *specific* opportunities in Chicago, but I'm sure you can find some. There are plenty of research institutions around you (MD schools/med centers with tons of opportunities).

 

[TexasTriathlete]

Here's what you need to consider: how much research does the school have going on? Do they have a lot of profs who have grants and various projects, etc.? If so, they might be looking for applicants who can help them out with it. That is where it can be a plus.

If not, probably not a big deal.

The same is true for residency. Research isn't just like you're collecting a bunch of merit badges so you'll have a bunch of **** to show them. They want people who can help them out, and know how to do research, and how these studies work. How to use SPSS or something. And so on. That's what I'm seeing on the project I'm working on with Emory this summer. Always looking for people who can help.

It isn't just a matter of them looking at the application and saying "wow this guy did research, he must be awesome." There is method to the madness.

 

[donkeykong1]

hey choco bear can be so kind as to list some of the "top 10-20% of DO schools for research"---in your opinion of course.

i'll be honest, i find volunteering really boring since there is only so much a pre-med can do, so i'm focusing more on hardcore research.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

hey choco bear can be so kind as to list some of the "top 10-20% of DO schools for research"---in your opinion of course.

i'll be honest, i find volunteering really boring since there is only so much a pre-med can do, so i'm focusing more on hardcore research.

CCOM, TCOM, PCOM are the three that come to mind. I know some of the others do research as well, but I know these three to place a good emphasis on it.

However, I'm not versed on all schools, so please continue digging for info. Most schools will have some kind of research they're doing, even if it means that they are collaborating with a local med school or med center that already has the EXPENSIVE infrastructure for research (buildings, equipment, IRB, funding, etc.). It's not that hard for a non-research school to collaborate with a big research center in this way. Faculty, students, and patients can easily be shared, forming a cooperative environment that I have seen at several DO schools that aren't considered "research-heavy."

I'm not trying to ride the fence on the issue. Just giving my observations, since I was interested in what schools had to say/offer as far as research was concerned.

 

[donkeykong1]

CCOM, TCOM, PCOM are the three that come to mind. I know some of the others do research as well, but I know these three to place a good emphasis on it.

However, I'm not versed on all schools, so please continue digging for info. Most schools will have some kind of research they're doing, even if it means that they are collaborating with a local med school or med center that already has the EXPENSIVE infrastructure for research (buildings, equipment, IRB, funding, etc.). It's not that hard for a non-research school to collaborate with a big research center in this way. Faculty, students, and patients can easily be shared, forming a cooperative environment that I have seen at several DO schools that aren't considered "research-heavy."

I'm not trying to ride the fence on the issue. Just giving my observations, since I was interested in what schools had to say/offer as far as research was concerned.

yeah, i hear what you're saying. CCOM and PCOM seem like the more research oriented schools from what i gather from sdn.

will keep looking though.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

yeah, i hear what you're saying. CCOM and PCOM seem like the more research oriented schools from what i gather from sdn.

will keep looking though.

I think TCOM is the most research-heavy DO school still. At least it traditionally has been.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

I think TCOM is the most research-heavy DO school still. At least it traditionally has been.

Yeah, they house the headquarters for OMM research. However, the OP may not be concerned since he's probably not a TX res.

http://www.hsc.unt.edu/ORC/

Also,

http://www.hsc.unt.edu/research/RCI.cfm

 

[Nimzy328]

i have searched before and will continue to do so for any opportunity that i can land...but at the same time i am more of the 'volunteer' type..i would much rather spend hours at a hospital interacting with people rather than research..at the same time i would like to try it out, i mean who knows i might like it?

also-of all the opportunities that i have found so far, the majority of them are for minorities and medical students and im just starting my second year of undergrad, could anyone give suggestions on where else i could search for?

thanks!🙄

 

[donkeykong1]

i have searched before and will continue to do so for any opportunity that i can land...but at the same time i am more of the 'volunteer' type..i would much rather spend hours at a hospital interacting with people rather than research..at the same time i would like to try it out, i mean who knows i might like it?

also-of all the opportunities that i have found so far, the majority of them are for minorities and medical students and im just starting my second year of undergrad, could anyone give suggestions on where else i could search for?

thanks!🙄

not sure about chicago but a large number of hospitals, clinics, specialty hospitals in the ny area conduct independent research studies with grants from NIH and are always looking for help. they usually dont care about your major.

keep inquiring ,best of luck

 

[TeamZissou]

When I interviewed last fall the Dean of CCOM informed us that they were the top DO school in terms of NIH funding. I'm not sure if that was only for that year or over what period of time.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

When I interviewed last fall the Dean of CCOM informed us that they were the top DO school in terms of NIH funding. I'm not sure if that was only for that year or over what period of time.

That's probably among private schools. This is from 2007, but TCOM leaves everyone in the dust in the category of research funding. Like 8x as much as CCOM.

http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/107/11/469/TBL6

 

[donkeykong1]

That's probably among private schools. This is from 2007, but TCOM leaves everyone in the dust in the category of research funding. Like 8x as much as CCOM.

http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/107/11/469/TBL6

TCOM also leaves everyone in the dust in the category of accepting OOS. In that its virtually impossible to get in if one is not from the lone star state. which kind of sucks cause its an awesome institution...

 

[TexasTriathlete]

TCOM also doesn't get a lot of out-of-state applicants, since its on a different application service, so it may not be as competitive for those spots as you might think

 

[donkeykong1]

TCOM also doesn't get a lot of out-of-state applicants, since its on a different application service, so it may not be as competitive for those spots as you might think

hate to hjack the theme of this thread but TCOM's website says something like an oos acceptance of 13 for 233 applicants for 2008. so say if i were to have better than average stats ~ >3.5 and >28 wouldn't being oos really put me at a disadvantage over an IS who has average stats. honestly i have no clue how this oos vs. is plays out in the application process, it all sounds too arbitrary and confusing. please elaborate if you have experience with this matter.

hey man, i truly hope you're right. although i have like a year before applying to schools TCOM has always been at the top of my list.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

233 applicants is not a lot. Of those, how many actually choose to attend interviews? And of those offered a seat, how many choose to go elsewhere?

I'm not saying that everyone can get in, but it isn't the hopeless cause that everyone seems to think. If you're a competitive applicant, you've got a shot.

 

[TeamZissou]

That's probably among private schools. This is from 2007, but TCOM leaves everyone in the dust in the category of research funding. Like 8x as much as CCOM.

http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/107/11/469/TBL6

Damn dude that is an enlightening link. Though the amount of NIH funding schools receive can vary a lot year by year. If you go to their website you can view it.